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Bruce's avatar

"But hey! Maybe if we bring more infectious diseases back, they’ll become profitable again!"

You joke, but something like that argument has been made by an actual finance guy: https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/gilead-hepatitis-c-meltdown-raises-troubling-question-is-curing-disease-bad-for-business-13994794

Hey it would open up new vistas for medical technology innovation and disruption! What if they made a portable Iron Lung? Some sort of AI-Powered breathing gadget! Think of the lifetime subscription revenues that would create!

Are you some sort of a Commie, Robyn, that you would deny techbros that kind of opportunity over something as woke as "maybe we shouldn't make Polio Great Again?"

Linda Osika's avatar

My aunt had polio. Her body was twisted, she was crippled and in constant pain. I loved her dearly, and it hurt me as I grew old enough to understand these things and to see her struggle every single day, and I was so grateful that I would not contract that disease because of the vaccines, and that my children would not suffer...Because of the vaccines.

I say let all these anti vax people and go live on an island, let's release all the viruses into their air, and let herd immunity sort it out.

Lexicon Devil's avatar

FREEDUMB TO CHOOSE: the first order and the first water!

Jamoche's avatar

When mom was a toddler, sometime around 1944, she suddenly stopped walking and would cry if anyone tried to make her. Her mom was in a panic that it might be polio. A month or so later she started walking again as if nothing had happened. Decades later she got X-rays and they discovered very old hairline fractures, so the assumption was that this was the toddler incident.

But the thing about it is that polio was such a big fucking deal that the story of the time everyone thought she had it got retold enough that we all knew it before the real cause was discovered.

Megan Macomber's avatar

Left out: all this bespoke "autonomy" will include insurers not covering non-mandated vaccines. If it's your "choice" not to let your kiddo die from polio, why should you? That's what they call "elective" immunization! Soon they'll all be elective, if RFK's idiot board prevails.

What this means IRL: rich kids survive, as they will be vaccinated. The rest of us, forced to choose between vaccines and food or transportation or, y'know, healthcare that's not vaccines, will play Thin Out The Herd, RFK's fantasy.

Bruce's avatar

Insurers are not as stupid as Bobby Brainworm's minions. They know paying for vaccinations is HELLA cheaper than paying for diseases.

Jamoche's avatar

Don't believe them when they tell me

There ain't no cure

The rich stay healthy

The sick stay poor

dental floss tycoon's avatar

Death always waits quietly by your front door, wanting no more than to slip inside …

gallbladder's avatar

It has all the time in the world to bide.

Despard Murgatroyd's avatar

In their defense, at least some of the vaccine hesitancy in Afghanistan and Pakistan might be that your provider might be CIA (pro-tip; the CIA should not be masquerading as public health providers!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_fake_vaccination_campaign_in_Pakistan

Bruce's avatar

When they could have simply mounted a REAL vaccination campaign and still gotten the intel they needed, but that would have made fucking sense. "Legacy of Ashes" was an eye-opener of a book. https://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/legacyofashes/legacy.htm

RefillingThorsBeer's avatar

I had a heated discussion with Little Miss Thors the other evening, because the babby girl is due in about 15 days, and she has stopped vaccinating Grand Son number 3.

"Are you going to vaccinate the baby?"

"I will look at each one on a case by case basis."

I am so disappointed. Bitterly disappointed. She thinks that Bobby Brainworms is doing necessary research into whether or not these vaccines are good for you.

fuck my life. That fucking prick and his ilk, and Joe Rogan and HIS ilk are gonna put my granddaughter in the NICU.

pskbh's avatar

When did she find the time to go to medical school??

Poor you 😢.

Runfastandwin's avatar

wahtta bunch abject morons and the gop voters that put them in charge are just as bad if not worse.

irish379's avatar

I've posted this before, anyone of a certain age probably knows/knew someone with polio

I had a classmate, heavy metal leg braces,crutches. Imagine going tp school up and down stairs.

This was before The ADA, no ramps,no elevators, no accommodations . These people are fucking ghouls

Notorious J.I.M.'s avatar

A friend of my parents was wheelchair bound due to polio. He also lived through all the pre-ADA stuff.

satch's avatar

"...but if we take away all of the herd immunity does that switch, does that teeter totter switch in a different direction?"

So: let's pause the polio vaccinations and see what happens?

Antifa Commander's avatar

Our sanitation is different.

If you don't "believe in" germ theory any more? Sure is. It's worse.

Mavenmaven's avatar

Said in raspy voice: "Come on all you weaklings, if you eat beef tallow and drink whole milk, you won't get these made up illnesses like polio"

Cheers Y'all's avatar

This is rather awful of me, but these are shitty times, and Mitch has been Sen from KY for almost 1/2 my life. Has not been pleasant.

I hope that Mitch meets his end by falling down the stairs of the Senate, broken and motionless, staring at the ceiling of that august place as he takes his last vile breath...CSPAN cameras rolling. Then a chandelier falls on his rotted, broken bag of bones and someone breaks out with the appropriate song from Phantom of the Opera or some other broadway tune that works best. I want drama from that mf-er when he finally exits this world.

Rooster Cogburn's avatar

I work in this field. Every day, I run into educated people (and uneducated) who say they don't trust Pharma companies and vaccines because they don't understand how they work. I tell them that Pharma companies want you alive to sell you more pills and please tell me how jet airplanes fly weighing 100 tons. If you don't understand lift/thrust/airflow/pitch/yaw/trim tabs/thrust reversers take the fucking bus cross country

Jamoche's avatar

Clarke’s Law Threshold: the point where a particular individual thinks advanced technology is magic. ChatGPT, self-driving cars, lightbulbs…

Mighty Little Dog's avatar

They don't understand a lot of things: Electricity (seriously, most people couldn't explain even basics) natural selection, microwave ovens, math, gravity, how aspirin works, etc.

Runfastandwin's avatar

they don't understand ICEs either though...they should be using horses or even better their feet.

Larry Schmitt's avatar

But they don't understand how diesel engines work either.

ShrillKitty's avatar

Hell, I'm not sure they even understand how wheels and horses work

ShrillKitty's avatar

If you don't understand, in detail, how your own smartphone works, perhaps you shouldn't trust it as a source for "doing your own research" whilst on the terlet

Jamoche's avatar

And if you do (there’s code in iOS that I wrote) you *definitely* don’t trust it.

Notorious J.I.M.'s avatar

Tell 'em that's how "they" track you, and watch the reaction.

[Redacted]'s avatar

Was a time you could fly by the seat of your pants. Didn’t need to know all that over educated stuff. Just pull back that stick and go. Whew!

Notorious J.I.M.'s avatar

Sometimes I drove long distance without a map. Reckless, I know.

Teen Laqueefa's avatar

OT

He's good at this

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