Given my typical nurse's schedule, I'm catching up on my WaPo and Wonkette this weekend. I read this yesterday and it's every bit as bad as Dok says. This woman is doing yeoman's work and frankly, I hope she tells them all to GFY and quits for her own good. If she feels up to it, maybe she can start a program not under the thumb of these ignoramuses.
My former next-door neighbours escped from Holland, MI just in time. They came here to Central NY state about 5 years ago as they had already seen the 'Arbeit macht frei' on the wall,. So they came here with their three boys cause they did not want them to grow in an increasingly bigoted place.
They only moved in town here when the boys were getting older and needed more space. So they moved to a bigger place, but they have gone back to Michigan to see relatives a few times. The last time they went back, instead of going back to Ottawa County, they arranged to meet their realtives in a state park instead. Think about not being able to go back to your home town.
First, warning about pregnancy as a result of sex is clearly aimed at women only. Obviously men who have sex are completely innocent and should not be punished. Of course, they can only have sex with women. Does anyone else see a problem here?
Second, celibacy is a perversion. It is just not natural. Protecting children makes sense because they don't have the power to defend themselves against others with more, but consenting adults should make their own choices--including effective birth control.
As anyone with a couple of brain cells can discern simply by picking up a copy of a local paper--ANY local paper--these anti-sex-ed zealots are projecting their own sordid fantasies and preoccupations onto counselors and educators. Trying to "pray away the gay" and still their own aberrant fantasies, they are striking out against anyone and everyone in an attempt to quell their own obsessions. Virtually every CSA arrest you read about is a Christian teacher, counselor, pastor or similar religiouscum.
Actually you dab the baby's blood not drink it. If you don't have your dabs rig handy you can dip a joint in it in a pinch. So says a friend. Wink wink nudge nudge say no more, SAY NO MOAR!!!
"Members of Ottawa Impact did their own research on the internets and in May 2022 issued a “report” accusing the county health department — and Alberda, in bold type — of sexualizing children, promoting abortion, and refusing to allow parents any input on what’s taught in sex ed classes. The “research” was mostly of the kind where they found scary things on Facebook and then tied them to the health department and Alberda, and suddenly the online rightwing hatemachine had her in its sights, including Twitter’s top death threat generator, “Libs of TikTok.”
100% of the time, this is where, when idiots say "I DID MY RESEARCH" and "YOU NEED TO DO RESEARCH", it comes from. Facebook 90%, Q-anon 10%.
Dok, I'm going to be hopeful with you. The gut punch here is that we had a great program that has been doing a good job for the past 20 years and now some assholes have to ruin it. But before 20 years ago, we had nothing. NOW, is still better than THEN. Now is still better than 60 years ago, 100 years ago. Can you imagine how child abuse was handled by authorities in 1776? It's too horrifying to consider.
I think that's what's so horrible about overturning Roe v Wade, the Voting Rights Act, EPA protections and the like. We had them, and now we don't.
These assholes used to get away with this crap all the time, but (for what it's worth) we now know this is going on in real time. We have to fight back, we have to take care of each other - what alternative do we have?
This is such a scary scenario ~ when those who are really giving all they have to make the world a better place are attacked by crazed individuals who let their muddled religious beliefs twist and turn the deeds of the good person into something evil. Worse yet, that others blindly accept and believe their horrific miscarriage of the truth
"The vast majority of Americans are sick and tired of Christianist bullies trying to push everyone around."
I'm sorry Doc, I just don't see it. I wish it were true. But the reason we have to deal with these deranged mole-people at all is that too damned many Americans vote them into office. We will never be rid of them. They were around in the 16th century, they are here in the 21st century and, unless their master plan works and we lose the whole thing to climate change and the resulting water wars, they'll be around in the 25th. They'll be Buck Rogers' problem then. But they will be around and strategizing their way to political power. It's what they do.
Maybe they do, but that leads us into the discussion of gerrymandering, and why voting at the local level is so important - and voting for local judiciary may be even more so. Last thing I remember reading about here in Missouri, we were 54% Rs, but Rs held 6/8 of the Congressional seats and a super majority in the state lege. That is total BS. Maybe we could be better at strategizing?
I agree. But 54% still sounds terribly, shockingly low when the opposition is offering naked racism & sexism, the dismantling of the social safety net, armed school cafeteria workers (who now can be children themselves!) and jewish space lasers. Oh, and Donald-fucking-Trump.
If we could pull in 70% in Missouri - which one might assume a nation that values sanity in its leaders could do - no amount of gerrymandering could over come it.
There is more to keeping kids abstinent to the Trumpetoons' obsession with pedophilia.
I've often discussed how the biggest homophobes are revealed as being on the "down-low," sometimes getting caught by cops in cars with transvestite hookers. It explains why the homophobe is so familiar with sexual acts he claims to abhor.
Neo-Nazis and their ilk are often jailed for making moves on teenage and sub-teenage girls. Confronted with this "non-Aryan" behavior, they whine about how some modern fascist wrote a book called "Which Way, Western Man?" which urges Aryan males to impregnate 12- and 13-year-old girls to build up a race of blonds with big muscles, big shoulders, and bigger husbands.
That theory doesn't fly too well with prosecutors and judges. Indeed, some of the followers of these nailed Nazis get fearful that the pedophilic bigshots are more interested in bopping their own kids than raising the Hakenkreuz over the State Capitol.
They also feel betrayed that the would-be Fuehrer is a pervert. One thing about Adolf, he was not into little boys or grown men. Heck, he didn't get married until 24 hours before his suicide.
Always love how the Rabid Right is against both sex education and birth control, the two things objectively proven to reduce unwanted pregnancy and abortion (not that they even allow for the idea that pregnancy could be undesirable). Now they want to paint anyone who has a common sense approach to sex in the context of mental and physical health as an evil groomer or child molester. I often wonder how Dr. Ruth have fared in this environment.
She got her share of blowback, when she was more publicly active.
There were a lot more conservative assholes around, when I was growing up in the 1980’s. Their asshole behavior permeated society. “Fag”, “homo”, etc. were straight up insults to boys, no one thought otherwise. No one complained about pro-LGBTQ+ books in school libraries, because pro-LGBTQ+ books barely existed, and you had to know where to look to find any.
Andrew Dice Clay was popular, and Howard Stern rode these attitudes to fame and fortune.
We’ve advanced so far in terms of acceptance of “others” as a society, and made tolerance more acceptable*, these conservatives polluting local government and school boards come across as jarring.
*There probably have been people willing to accept “others”, but were hesitant to do so because society would ostracize them. They just followed along with what was accepted. Making it okay to accept your child’s interracial marriage, without blowback is a big shift.
This is the heavily Dutch Christian rural~ish bibble belt of W MI. Home to Hope & Calvin colleges. But for decades they have been surrounded by a more liberal artist and tourist clientele, especially in adjacent Allegan co. to the S. which is home to the midwest's largest LGBTQ+ resort and the economic boom it brings., They likely fear increasing infection by the woke mind virus. Many of these LGB.., many from Detroit, Chicago, Kzoo, GR bring megabux and buy homes here. One of GR's mega-employers, Meijer (dutch), is now on paper LGBTQ-friendly. This sex-negativity seems an anachronistic, knee-jerky reaction to the inevitable melding of these cultures.
So fockin sick of living in a country held hostage by these morons with their cruelty, stupidity, and derangement.
My parents forced me to go to a Southern Baptist church, and the nastiest people that I knew were the ones that screamed the loudest about how ChrISIStian they were. No wonder they're churning out atheists by the busload.
They're convinced that earning eternal life requires destroying the rest of us. All their evangelism is just for show- they want the rest of us in Hell one way or another.
Worse than that, they think they can do whatever they want as long as they “accept Jesus as their Savior” because it’s a free pass to heaven. In reality it’s antisocial and dangerous behavior excused by false piety.
And that goes for parties as well as individual voters.
In Illinois, in the last election, the Democrats had an organized effort to sniff out the RWNJs running for school boards etc. and expose them. It worked great. We need more of that!
Given my typical nurse's schedule, I'm catching up on my WaPo and Wonkette this weekend. I read this yesterday and it's every bit as bad as Dok says. This woman is doing yeoman's work and frankly, I hope she tells them all to GFY and quits for her own good. If she feels up to it, maybe she can start a program not under the thumb of these ignoramuses.
My former next-door neighbours escped from Holland, MI just in time. They came here to Central NY state about 5 years ago as they had already seen the 'Arbeit macht frei' on the wall,. So they came here with their three boys cause they did not want them to grow in an increasingly bigoted place.
They only moved in town here when the boys were getting older and needed more space. So they moved to a bigger place, but they have gone back to Michigan to see relatives a few times. The last time they went back, instead of going back to Ottawa County, they arranged to meet their realtives in a state park instead. Think about not being able to go back to your home town.
First, warning about pregnancy as a result of sex is clearly aimed at women only. Obviously men who have sex are completely innocent and should not be punished. Of course, they can only have sex with women. Does anyone else see a problem here?
Second, celibacy is a perversion. It is just not natural. Protecting children makes sense because they don't have the power to defend themselves against others with more, but consenting adults should make their own choices--including effective birth control.
As anyone with a couple of brain cells can discern simply by picking up a copy of a local paper--ANY local paper--these anti-sex-ed zealots are projecting their own sordid fantasies and preoccupations onto counselors and educators. Trying to "pray away the gay" and still their own aberrant fantasies, they are striking out against anyone and everyone in an attempt to quell their own obsessions. Virtually every CSA arrest you read about is a Christian teacher, counselor, pastor or similar religiouscum.
Actually you dab the baby's blood not drink it. If you don't have your dabs rig handy you can dip a joint in it in a pinch. So says a friend. Wink wink nudge nudge say no more, SAY NO MOAR!!!
"Members of Ottawa Impact did their own research on the internets and in May 2022 issued a “report” accusing the county health department — and Alberda, in bold type — of sexualizing children, promoting abortion, and refusing to allow parents any input on what’s taught in sex ed classes. The “research” was mostly of the kind where they found scary things on Facebook and then tied them to the health department and Alberda, and suddenly the online rightwing hatemachine had her in its sights, including Twitter’s top death threat generator, “Libs of TikTok.”
100% of the time, this is where, when idiots say "I DID MY RESEARCH" and "YOU NEED TO DO RESEARCH", it comes from. Facebook 90%, Q-anon 10%.
The moral of this story is: Vote Blue, no matter who, and vote in EVERY election.
Dok, I'm going to be hopeful with you. The gut punch here is that we had a great program that has been doing a good job for the past 20 years and now some assholes have to ruin it. But before 20 years ago, we had nothing. NOW, is still better than THEN. Now is still better than 60 years ago, 100 years ago. Can you imagine how child abuse was handled by authorities in 1776? It's too horrifying to consider.
I think that's what's so horrible about overturning Roe v Wade, the Voting Rights Act, EPA protections and the like. We had them, and now we don't.
These assholes used to get away with this crap all the time, but (for what it's worth) we now know this is going on in real time. We have to fight back, we have to take care of each other - what alternative do we have?
This is such a scary scenario ~ when those who are really giving all they have to make the world a better place are attacked by crazed individuals who let their muddled religious beliefs twist and turn the deeds of the good person into something evil. Worse yet, that others blindly accept and believe their horrific miscarriage of the truth
"The vast majority of Americans are sick and tired of Christianist bullies trying to push everyone around."
I'm sorry Doc, I just don't see it. I wish it were true. But the reason we have to deal with these deranged mole-people at all is that too damned many Americans vote them into office. We will never be rid of them. They were around in the 16th century, they are here in the 21st century and, unless their master plan works and we lose the whole thing to climate change and the resulting water wars, they'll be around in the 25th. They'll be Buck Rogers' problem then. But they will be around and strategizing their way to political power. It's what they do.
Maybe they do, but that leads us into the discussion of gerrymandering, and why voting at the local level is so important - and voting for local judiciary may be even more so. Last thing I remember reading about here in Missouri, we were 54% Rs, but Rs held 6/8 of the Congressional seats and a super majority in the state lege. That is total BS. Maybe we could be better at strategizing?
I agree. But 54% still sounds terribly, shockingly low when the opposition is offering naked racism & sexism, the dismantling of the social safety net, armed school cafeteria workers (who now can be children themselves!) and jewish space lasers. Oh, and Donald-fucking-Trump.
If we could pull in 70% in Missouri - which one might assume a nation that values sanity in its leaders could do - no amount of gerrymandering could over come it.
They don't want children to know about abuse because THEY ARE THE FUCKING ABUSERS.
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There is more to keeping kids abstinent to the Trumpetoons' obsession with pedophilia.
I've often discussed how the biggest homophobes are revealed as being on the "down-low," sometimes getting caught by cops in cars with transvestite hookers. It explains why the homophobe is so familiar with sexual acts he claims to abhor.
Neo-Nazis and their ilk are often jailed for making moves on teenage and sub-teenage girls. Confronted with this "non-Aryan" behavior, they whine about how some modern fascist wrote a book called "Which Way, Western Man?" which urges Aryan males to impregnate 12- and 13-year-old girls to build up a race of blonds with big muscles, big shoulders, and bigger husbands.
That theory doesn't fly too well with prosecutors and judges. Indeed, some of the followers of these nailed Nazis get fearful that the pedophilic bigshots are more interested in bopping their own kids than raising the Hakenkreuz over the State Capitol.
They also feel betrayed that the would-be Fuehrer is a pervert. One thing about Adolf, he was not into little boys or grown men. Heck, he didn't get married until 24 hours before his suicide.
Always love how the Rabid Right is against both sex education and birth control, the two things objectively proven to reduce unwanted pregnancy and abortion (not that they even allow for the idea that pregnancy could be undesirable). Now they want to paint anyone who has a common sense approach to sex in the context of mental and physical health as an evil groomer or child molester. I often wonder how Dr. Ruth have fared in this environment.
She got her share of blowback, when she was more publicly active.
There were a lot more conservative assholes around, when I was growing up in the 1980’s. Their asshole behavior permeated society. “Fag”, “homo”, etc. were straight up insults to boys, no one thought otherwise. No one complained about pro-LGBTQ+ books in school libraries, because pro-LGBTQ+ books barely existed, and you had to know where to look to find any.
Andrew Dice Clay was popular, and Howard Stern rode these attitudes to fame and fortune.
We’ve advanced so far in terms of acceptance of “others” as a society, and made tolerance more acceptable*, these conservatives polluting local government and school boards come across as jarring.
*There probably have been people willing to accept “others”, but were hesitant to do so because society would ostracize them. They just followed along with what was accepted. Making it okay to accept your child’s interracial marriage, without blowback is a big shift.
This is the heavily Dutch Christian rural~ish bibble belt of W MI. Home to Hope & Calvin colleges. But for decades they have been surrounded by a more liberal artist and tourist clientele, especially in adjacent Allegan co. to the S. which is home to the midwest's largest LGBTQ+ resort and the economic boom it brings., They likely fear increasing infection by the woke mind virus. Many of these LGB.., many from Detroit, Chicago, Kzoo, GR bring megabux and buy homes here. One of GR's mega-employers, Meijer (dutch), is now on paper LGBTQ-friendly. This sex-negativity seems an anachronistic, knee-jerky reaction to the inevitable melding of these cultures.
So fockin sick of living in a country held hostage by these morons with their cruelty, stupidity, and derangement.
My parents forced me to go to a Southern Baptist church, and the nastiest people that I knew were the ones that screamed the loudest about how ChrISIStian they were. No wonder they're churning out atheists by the busload.
They're convinced that earning eternal life requires destroying the rest of us. All their evangelism is just for show- they want the rest of us in Hell one way or another.
Worse than that, they think they can do whatever they want as long as they “accept Jesus as their Savior” because it’s a free pass to heaven. In reality it’s antisocial and dangerous behavior excused by false piety.
Moral: PAY ATTENTION TO LOCAL RACES.
And that goes for parties as well as individual voters.
In Illinois, in the last election, the Democrats had an organized effort to sniff out the RWNJs running for school boards etc. and expose them. It worked great. We need more of that!