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Jacqueline Klein's avatar

Sounds more like a set up by some white supremicists like the Proud Boys so that trump can declare Martial Law. Then the same Proud Boys will be able to attack undocumented immigrants with no repercussions. Everything this administration does is pro formative. It’s like the entire country is part of some awful play that goes on forever. Not to mention when you make automatic weapons so readily available don’t be surprised if someone actually uses them instead of jerking off to one.

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Copyranter's avatar

MARSHALL LAW: NEVER UNDERSOLD!

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Glennis Waterman's avatar

Even if this is true - it's still no rationale for ICE to operate without badges, IDS, or with their faces covered. This "attack" wasn't based on individual identity.

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Glennis Waterman's avatar

"Another man, Bradford Morris, was arrested after a traffic stop by a sheriff’s detective; the van Morris was driving contained a pistol, two more AR-15s, two bulletproof vests, a helmet and other stuff. " Sounds like an ICE staffer driving to work.

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Kirsty Gnome-Poledance Himmler's avatar

Maybe "Ice Pig" was like "Cool Cat"?

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Regret's avatar

"Let’s be clear here: Trump’s fascist takeover of the US must absolutely be resisted and stopped by all legal means necessary. But that can’t include violence against the government, because Trump is already itching for an excuse to start shooting Americans. That’s how civil wars get started. "

The civil war is already there, the concentration camps are already being filled.

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Lil Snot's avatar

Do these people even exist?

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Dok. What? No ANTIFA membership cards in their wallets?!

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Doloras LaPicho's avatar

The main evidence that this ISN'T a false flag is that Trump HASN'T come out and declared martial law; the usual suspects online AREN'T screaming about violent trans people who need to be gulagged, etc. If this were a false flag, then all that shit would have already swung into action. The lack of it suggests the fascists were surprised.

Seriously, "false flag" stuff assumes that ordinary people with Left-wing opinions *aren't* capable of making plans for violent action, which is kind of infantilising and condescending.

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Cock Blockula's avatar

Do some investigation and I bet it leads back to some RWNJ guys who put their girlfriends or sister-wives up to this, or some rich fuck paid them to cosplay.

There's also the cult leader angle (see: Manson, Charles).

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𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

If I was an anarchist out to do some generic shit-stirring, something like this would be a pretty appealing scheme. Well-calculated to trigger gun-humping MAGA cretins, who we know are just itching for an excuse to go on the warpath.

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Gern Blansten's avatar

My take is what was their endgame? Shoot up an ICE base (in the original report I saw it was a CBP station but maybe it’s a shared joint IDK) declare victory, go home? Were they going to have an Antifa vs Alamo ICE siege? Hard to differentiate between shitty planning and intentional fakery these days. Not saying this as a better method but seems like if they wanted attention and concessions a hostage situation is how that works (see also Gaza.)

Maybe we’ll find out the truth one day.

Maybe I’ll also grow a horn out of the middle of my forehead and start shooting rainbows out of my asshole. Stand by.🦄🌈

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Regret's avatar

I think the point was to rescue civilians from the government death squads, but they failed.

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Lil Snot's avatar

Then I'll meet you n Candy Mountain, GB.

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Birb-General of the US's avatar

Regarding civil war, I am undecided about whether me and all the urban liberals having a firearm at home is more likely to result in political violence, or more likely to 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵 political violence. Leaning towards the latter at the current time.

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Nicole Koretsky's avatar

It feels slightly Reichstag-y, doesn't it?

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Mark Eaton's avatar

Not to be THAT guy, but I believe you mean the SR-25, which is just like its AR cousin, but in the deadlier 7.62 caliber. If one jammed, I'm sure it's because they used some corrosive surplus Eastern Bloc ammo. But, as others have pointed out, the graffiti (shades of Jeffrey MacDonald's "attackers"!) and alleged demographics of the "suspects" sure make it suspicious.

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skinnercitycyclist's avatar

Sounds like bullshit to me.

I am an Army veteran, military intelligence and not combat arms, but even I would know how to carry out an attack like this effectively.

Contrary to right-wing fantasies, many veterans are liberals, or conservatives w/no taste for fascism. When the time comes (and I am pretty sure it will), we'll do a fuckton better than THIS.

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Zyxomma's avatar

My Navy vet husband (who is a crack shot and giving me firearms training) is a dyed-in-the-wool lefty, like so many others.

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