The only problem with the "wear wtf you want" aesthetic is that sometimes it's difficult to find the what-the-fuck-you-want items you want because they currently unfashionable.
I remember reading an article in Vogue in the 1980s saying skirt lengths for the summer were all lengths and we weren't going to worry about that anymore. If only.
Once when working for a cable TV station, management decided to surprise us by enforcing a dress code. No jeans, but women could wear jean skirts.
I told my supervisor that they need to raise my salary if they want me to go out and buy new clothes (I was making less than $20K there in 2000). And if they don't, I 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 come to work wearing a jean skirt, pasty white hairy legs and all.
I have skirted* this issue by the simple expedient of Being Born With A Penis**. Jeans and a tee shirt. It's worked for me for 50 years, excepting a brief foray into "business wear" which hasn't changed significantly for men since 1877.
I'm told these days that my love of tee shirts with interesting or clever words and/or pictures on the front is not stylish. For those people I wear my "zero of fucks" tarot-esque tee shirt. For all else, these days it's usually a black tee shirt with the words "ANTI-FASCIST" printed simply in white.
I may not be fashionable but I bet I've had more people tell me they like my shirts than you have.
*pun intended
**Some AMAB people prefer not to take advantage of this opportunity because they are women or otherwise configured. No offense intended.
I've gotten Mr. Dorothea a few good t-shirts over the years. Most recently ObamaLlamaDingDong. My favorite though is: Careful man, there's a beverage here.
There are few benefits to being older than dirt, but one of them is not giving a flying fig when it comes to other people's opinion of one's clothing.
I haven't worn jeans since the 70s, because I was never comfortable in them, even when I was Normal Woman Size. I only wore them then, to please my husband. I have never been "in style," because my style is what I like and if others don't, tant pis! Although, I do admit, I embraced the mini skirt, and hot pants - because I liked them, though, not because I HAD to wear them.
I feel sorry for young people of any gender, who are so driven to fit in, match the style, be like some "influencer" on the Internet, and I mean that sincerely. It must be awful, if they can't meet the standards they have been brainwashed to think they have to meet.
"I mean, there is a reason why Elon Musk, of all people, complained about the lack of a unified aesthetic that we all follow. People who want everyone to be the same in one way usually want everyone to be the same in other ways as well."
I am so not doing Camazotz Fashion for Elon Musk -- who COMMITTED ELECTION FRAUD IN AT LEAST ONE UNITED STATE AS WELL AS IN FRANCE -- for one single second while the majority of the country does its best to fight encroaching fascism
I’m also still struggling to figure out whether I’m madder at his blatant, gaping hypocrisy after trying to taunt Christopher Wray for going on vacation in the face of the white nationalist domestic terrorist threat — or for spending at least $75,000, again of YOUR MONEY, on just this trip, never mind working from home from Vegas, of all places, instead of bothering to go to his DC office, and flying his (supposed) gf to and fro from Nashville and demanding Secret Service guard her.
I mean - can dude tattoo “WASTE FRAUD & ABUSE” on his forehead so we can at least see him coming from a distance?
but the sad part to me is that we didn’t even need it - Donald Trump and Elon Musk (and, I suspect, that dude running Argentina in the ground) already tried it and failed miserably
I mostly wear the jeans and work pants of my park ranger sweetheart, who died many years ago. He had a lot of them, well broken in. I think they will last me to the end.
I've wear jeans all my life. Levis, Wrangler, all kinds, all of them Katie.
I few years ago I bought a pair of jeans in a store in Paris. Jules is call, best jeans ever by far, comfortable, they fit me perfect they feel just right. Two yeas ago while visiting Lyon I saw a Jules store, sure enough I found I pair of jeans that fit me perfectly in another color and style but the same 'best jeans ever experience'. About 60 euros each pair and no this is not an ad.
While we're waiting for the Official Open Thread, you might want to check out the "State of the Swamp" event, presented by DEFIANCE . org, the Portland Frog Brigade, and Courier News:
Happening in real time against El Presidente's blatherings, the lineup features political figures, musicians, actors, etc. Robert De Niro seems to be the Master of Ceremonies......
It's quite the line up! I'll be tuning into the Peoples SOTU as I'll be driving while it's airing and I think it will be available thru msnow on TuneIn (I'm going thru PDX and will have a quick visit with Uncle Milburn). I'll catch the State of the Swamp when I can find a recording of it.
There are several events like that - part of which encourages me, & part of which exasperates me as I wish ANTIFA were a little more organized (even though too well I also suspect that would make it easier for Shamela and HARMeet Dhillon to try to sue it out of existence even as it does not exist)
But I think wherever Mr. De Niro is the MC, I want to be at that one
I feel, however, for anyone who has to spend lawyer money to respond to any stupid subpoenas and/or pleadings she & her “Evil Egg” HARMeet decide to spend more US taxpayer money to send out
That’s the point though. She’s got to serve somebody, and before she can do that she’s gotta figure out *who*, which will be enough to keep her occupied for quite some while.
I'd be fine with it if SHE were the one paying those folks' attorneys' fees -- especially since she made all that Qatar money and probably didn't even register with FARA -- but she probably will not, even if the defendants hire attorneys who are willing to ask for it if allowed because their BS is so frivolous
There are a lot of people discussing this with the general headline "the process is the punishment"
Toni Morrison also talks about it when she discusses that the point of racism is basically to prevent you from getting on with whatever you would accomplish in your life if you didn't have to spend energy pushing back against the discrimination and potential reputational damage
To defend against such BS takes time and money that could be much better spent on other things -- but you have to stop & defend against it bc otherwise Shamela et al will have you thrown in one of those detention centers that look disconcertingly like the slave ships from the Middle Passage not because their lawsuits are baseless, because they are, but because you didn't answer their papers, and the courts tend to require that.
Someone needs to break it to the entire millennial generation that they were never really cool. At least not as cool as the lost generation.
My apologies, but for this Boomer "Millennial Pink" will always be remembered as the color of Ex-Lax...
Yes yes yes!
The only problem with the "wear wtf you want" aesthetic is that sometimes it's difficult to find the what-the-fuck-you-want items you want because they currently unfashionable.
But we endure, presumably clothed and warm.
America Ferrera's "It is literally impossible to be a woman" speech proven correct yet again, as it is every ten minutes :-(
Hear, hear!
I remember reading an article in Vogue in the 1980s saying skirt lengths for the summer were all lengths and we weren't going to worry about that anymore. If only.
Once when working for a cable TV station, management decided to surprise us by enforcing a dress code. No jeans, but women could wear jean skirts.
I told my supervisor that they need to raise my salary if they want me to go out and buy new clothes (I was making less than $20K there in 2000). And if they don't, I 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 come to work wearing a jean skirt, pasty white hairy legs and all.
Within a few days, the dress code was rescinded.
I think RFK Jr. has made jeans the equivalent of gross. Do you want an ice bath with those jeans? How about a big glass of WHOLE MILK?
I will drink whole milk while wearing jeans, but I would never do that around "Kid" "Rock."
I have skirted* this issue by the simple expedient of Being Born With A Penis**. Jeans and a tee shirt. It's worked for me for 50 years, excepting a brief foray into "business wear" which hasn't changed significantly for men since 1877.
I'm told these days that my love of tee shirts with interesting or clever words and/or pictures on the front is not stylish. For those people I wear my "zero of fucks" tarot-esque tee shirt. For all else, these days it's usually a black tee shirt with the words "ANTI-FASCIST" printed simply in white.
I may not be fashionable but I bet I've had more people tell me they like my shirts than you have.
*pun intended
**Some AMAB people prefer not to take advantage of this opportunity because they are women or otherwise configured. No offense intended.
I would like one of those tarot-esque tees!
The one I got is something like this one https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/The-Zero-Of-Fucks-Tarot-Card-Skeleton-Swear-Finger-Tarot-by-DuyHerry/119936220.NL9AC
Thank you!
I've gotten Mr. Dorothea a few good t-shirts over the years. Most recently ObamaLlamaDingDong. My favorite though is: Careful man, there's a beverage here.
There are few benefits to being older than dirt, but one of them is not giving a flying fig when it comes to other people's opinion of one's clothing.
I haven't worn jeans since the 70s, because I was never comfortable in them, even when I was Normal Woman Size. I only wore them then, to please my husband. I have never been "in style," because my style is what I like and if others don't, tant pis! Although, I do admit, I embraced the mini skirt, and hot pants - because I liked them, though, not because I HAD to wear them.
I feel sorry for young people of any gender, who are so driven to fit in, match the style, be like some "influencer" on the Internet, and I mean that sincerely. It must be awful, if they can't meet the standards they have been brainwashed to think they have to meet.
"I mean, there is a reason why Elon Musk, of all people, complained about the lack of a unified aesthetic that we all follow. People who want everyone to be the same in one way usually want everyone to be the same in other ways as well."
I am so not doing Camazotz Fashion for Elon Musk -- who COMMITTED ELECTION FRAUD IN AT LEAST ONE UNITED STATE AS WELL AS IN FRANCE -- for one single second while the majority of the country does its best to fight encroaching fascism
The K-hole A-hole is Exhibit A for "money cannot buy you cool."
I’m also still struggling to figure out whether I’m madder at his blatant, gaping hypocrisy after trying to taunt Christopher Wray for going on vacation in the face of the white nationalist domestic terrorist threat — or for spending at least $75,000, again of YOUR MONEY, on just this trip, never mind working from home from Vegas, of all places, instead of bothering to go to his DC office, and flying his (supposed) gf to and fro from Nashville and demanding Secret Service guard her.
I mean - can dude tattoo “WASTE FRAUD & ABUSE” on his forehead so we can at least see him coming from a distance?
Prince already wrote it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmGVAu9lk6I&pp=ygUhbW9uZXkgZG9uJ3QgbWF0dGVyIHRvbmlnaHQgcHJpbmNl
but the sad part to me is that we didn’t even need it - Donald Trump and Elon Musk (and, I suspect, that dude running Argentina in the ground) already tried it and failed miserably
I agree with Robyn here, but I think it's more due to the overall cultural fragmentation that came from social media than any particular trend.
I mostly wear the jeans and work pants of my park ranger sweetheart, who died many years ago. He had a lot of them, well broken in. I think they will last me to the end.
Old jeans, happy memories, a great legacy.
Have they looked out the fucking WINDOW lately? DENIM is what I’m supposed to get anxious about? Gurl, that don’t even break the top 100.
I've wear jeans all my life. Levis, Wrangler, all kinds, all of them Katie.
I few years ago I bought a pair of jeans in a store in Paris. Jules is call, best jeans ever by far, comfortable, they fit me perfect they feel just right. Two yeas ago while visiting Lyon I saw a Jules store, sure enough I found I pair of jeans that fit me perfectly in another color and style but the same 'best jeans ever experience'. About 60 euros each pair and no this is not an ad.
Got the perfect shirt to wear while not watching the sotu: Pelosi ripping up that previous one https://substack.com/profile/156971293-jamoche/note/c-219225134
While we're waiting for the Official Open Thread, you might want to check out the "State of the Swamp" event, presented by DEFIANCE . org, the Portland Frog Brigade, and Courier News:
https://www.defiance.org/sotu
Happening in real time against El Presidente's blatherings, the lineup features political figures, musicians, actors, etc. Robert De Niro seems to be the Master of Ceremonies......
It's quite the line up! I'll be tuning into the Peoples SOTU as I'll be driving while it's airing and I think it will be available thru msnow on TuneIn (I'm going thru PDX and will have a quick visit with Uncle Milburn). I'll catch the State of the Swamp when I can find a recording of it.
I think Miles Taylor of “Anonymous NYT Op-Ed” fame is going to be on that one.
There are several events like that - part of which encourages me, & part of which exasperates me as I wish ANTIFA were a little more organized (even though too well I also suspect that would make it easier for Shamela and HARMeet Dhillon to try to sue it out of existence even as it does not exist)
But I think wherever Mr. De Niro is the MC, I want to be at that one
I’m waiting for Pammy Jo to try to bring legal action against “Antifa”. That should be amusing.
I hope that process server gets mileage and a per diem
Talk about easy money…
I think you’re right that it should be
I feel, however, for anyone who has to spend lawyer money to respond to any stupid subpoenas and/or pleadings she & her “Evil Egg” HARMeet decide to spend more US taxpayer money to send out
That’s the point though. She’s got to serve somebody, and before she can do that she’s gotta figure out *who*, which will be enough to keep her occupied for quite some while.
I'd be fine with it if SHE were the one paying those folks' attorneys' fees -- especially since she made all that Qatar money and probably didn't even register with FARA -- but she probably will not, even if the defendants hire attorneys who are willing to ask for it if allowed because their BS is so frivolous
There are a lot of people discussing this with the general headline "the process is the punishment"
Toni Morrison also talks about it when she discusses that the point of racism is basically to prevent you from getting on with whatever you would accomplish in your life if you didn't have to spend energy pushing back against the discrimination and potential reputational damage
To defend against such BS takes time and money that could be much better spent on other things -- but you have to stop & defend against it bc otherwise Shamela et al will have you thrown in one of those detention centers that look disconcertingly like the slave ships from the Middle Passage not because their lawsuits are baseless, because they are, but because you didn't answer their papers, and the courts tend to require that.