"Republicans will never fix the border, because it’s their favorite issue forever." Wait. Didn't we Libs say the very same words about abortion? Oh, that's right, we did. See where that got us.
MAGAts don't care about policy or politics, they don't want immigration reform. They don't give one rusty fuck about our labor force. What they want Auschwitz.
I'm not crazy about political kabuki, but that's what President Biden is doing here. He signed an EO that's basically a reboot of the convicted felon's 2018 immigration policy. That policy was shot down in court, and this EO will be too. But it gives Old Handsome Joe leverage to push Congress into passing legislation that will enable him to create policy that migrants can live with.
Grow the fuck up. Your phony whataboutism just demonstrates you've either never read Editrix's oft-stated position on Israel/Palestine or you're a liar.
GASP! YOU MAY HAVE JUST ELECTED TRUMP WITH YOUR CRITICISM OF GOD-EMPEROR BIDEN (Blessed be his name)! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY TO ST. HILLARY (She who is love and light!) FOR FORGIVENESS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
The immigration "problem" has been going on for decades. There are many simple solutions, but nobody has ever wanted to do anything. There is no vote getting percentage in fixing the problem, only in exploiting it
It's infuriating. Biden is compromising with people who wouldn't vote for him if he was Christ, and pissing off people who support him because decades of comity have clouded his view. FFS, otoh, maybe he is playing 11th dimensional chess because he knows $CROTUS will vote to invalidate it and he can say, see, I tried to do it, but you assholes knocked it down.
Reading this post it really does come off like "taking a kneel" to have a sacrificial target knocked down. I am sure this should get invalidated in the courts. Again I think it's an unforced wedge grenade hit, but we'll see what happens. I think this probably doesn't hurt Biden as much as immigration is not as winning an issue for Democrats among certain populations as people like to think.
My prediction is the immigration issue is sort of baked in--people who think we need to be "much tougher" on the border are going to stick with Trump, people who disagree will stick with Biden. It'll give Biden a rhetorical point--"I tried using executive action, the court struck it down, and you assholes won't pass legislation to help"--but even there, unlikely to move the basic needle. Voters go by general feelings, not facts.
This thing has as much chance of surviving legal challenges as tfg's band of loons had in court, none. The executive branch can't make new laws with orders. That's what this thing tries to do. It's a dumb plan to start with, would cost millions and millions, and only create more confusion.
Leaving aside for the moment my disappointment in OHJB's capitulation to this garbage: Isn't it disgusting that the same conservatives who automatically defend every single war we get involved in "because it's America's job to help the world" are so fanatically unwilling to help the world by the much simpler means of just *letting people live here, look for jobs, and build lives*?
Well, at the very least they've been more selective about it since then. They certainly don't want to arm Ukraine (even though its invasion by Putin is an actual threat to the rules-based international order). But there's a pretty vocal contingent (in my area, at least) who insist it's indeed the US' job to supply the Netanyahu government with absolutely everything it asks for. (And without any of that pesky quibbling about misuse against civilians.)
BUT I DO know what Reichführer Steven Miller wants to do with "illegals" and we know Miller gets off on hurting as many people as he can and he knows Smellvis will give him a blank check.
Dad the hard core Socialist always said the Democratic apple may be half rotted but the Republican apple is 1000% rotted and you got to take a bite from one of them...
The idea that there are millions of asylum cases in the backlog is infuriating. Those with legit cases have to wait years for regular status because of all the garbage claims that have to be processed.
That assumes there are a lot of garbage claims. Given the state of much of the world south of us, I'm not sure the proportion of garbage claims is as high as some make it out to be.
And a lot of that instability is arguably the US' own doing, given our poking around in the region from the 50s through the 90s for reasons of "anti-Communism" (i.e., deposing any popularly elected figure to the left of Ronald Reagan).
In seriousness, blame TikTok: Venezuelans and Ecuadorians are bombarded constantly with misinformation about how easy it is to get to the U.S. and to apply for asylum. It's only when they arrive that they realize how much of a bill of goods they were sold.
EDIT: There's also the whole part where Ecuador's verging on civil war.
I don't have access to any more information about these asylum claims than anyone else does. I know the right is all too happy to sell us a story of people lying on asylum claims, and I know the amount of asylum claims that ultimately get accepted isn't as low as the right's narrative would lead one to believe. So I'm suspending judgment on the validity of claims that haven't been processed yet.
Ta, Dok. I. Just. Can't.
I’m not sure that having it tossed by the courts is not part of the plan. Just sayin’.
It probably is the plan. And having asylum reaffirmed would be a good outcome.
"Republicans will never fix the border, because it’s their favorite issue forever." Wait. Didn't we Libs say the very same words about abortion? Oh, that's right, we did. See where that got us.
MAGAts don't care about policy or politics, they don't want immigration reform. They don't give one rusty fuck about our labor force. What they want Auschwitz.
I'm not crazy about political kabuki, but that's what President Biden is doing here. He signed an EO that's basically a reboot of the convicted felon's 2018 immigration policy. That policy was shot down in court, and this EO will be too. But it gives Old Handsome Joe leverage to push Congress into passing legislation that will enable him to create policy that migrants can live with.
Oh, you’re not a fan of his selling out of refugees, but NOT his inaction on Israel’s continuing genocide?
Interesting.
Grow the fuck up. Your phony whataboutism just demonstrates you've either never read Editrix's oft-stated position on Israel/Palestine or you're a liar.
“We’re not big fans.”
GASP! YOU MAY HAVE JUST ELECTED TRUMP WITH YOUR CRITICISM OF GOD-EMPEROR BIDEN (Blessed be his name)! GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY TO ST. HILLARY (She who is love and light!) FOR FORGIVENESS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
Yessss, we’re the cult. We have no choice but to follow the racist, criminal, rapist, fascist and self-proclaimed dictator…
Oh, wait.
The immigration "problem" has been going on for decades. There are many simple solutions, but nobody has ever wanted to do anything. There is no vote getting percentage in fixing the problem, only in exploiting it
It's infuriating. Biden is compromising with people who wouldn't vote for him if he was Christ, and pissing off people who support him because decades of comity have clouded his view. FFS, otoh, maybe he is playing 11th dimensional chess because he knows $CROTUS will vote to invalidate it and he can say, see, I tried to do it, but you assholes knocked it down.
I am voting for him and getting out the vote.
He is trying to stop fascism. I am ok with his lack of purity.
As usual, it seems as though the Dems are doing everything in their power to lose
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Reading this post it really does come off like "taking a kneel" to have a sacrificial target knocked down. I am sure this should get invalidated in the courts. Again I think it's an unforced wedge grenade hit, but we'll see what happens. I think this probably doesn't hurt Biden as much as immigration is not as winning an issue for Democrats among certain populations as people like to think.
But let's see what happens with the suit.
My prediction is the immigration issue is sort of baked in--people who think we need to be "much tougher" on the border are going to stick with Trump, people who disagree will stick with Biden. It'll give Biden a rhetorical point--"I tried using executive action, the court struck it down, and you assholes won't pass legislation to help"--but even there, unlikely to move the basic needle. Voters go by general feelings, not facts.
It’s a play for voters in swing states. If it reduces the chances for the 5th Reich by 1%, I’ll grit my teeth and accept it.
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This thing has as much chance of surviving legal challenges as tfg's band of loons had in court, none. The executive branch can't make new laws with orders. That's what this thing tries to do. It's a dumb plan to start with, would cost millions and millions, and only create more confusion.
Leaving aside for the moment my disappointment in OHJB's capitulation to this garbage: Isn't it disgusting that the same conservatives who automatically defend every single war we get involved in "because it's America's job to help the world" are so fanatically unwilling to help the world by the much simpler means of just *letting people live here, look for jobs, and build lives*?
Well, at the very least they've been more selective about it since then. They certainly don't want to arm Ukraine (even though its invasion by Putin is an actual threat to the rules-based international order). But there's a pretty vocal contingent (in my area, at least) who insist it's indeed the US' job to supply the Netanyahu government with absolutely everything it asks for. (And without any of that pesky quibbling about misuse against civilians.)
Me?
I'm not happy with this
BUT I DO know what Reichführer Steven Miller wants to do with "illegals" and we know Miller gets off on hurting as many people as he can and he knows Smellvis will give him a blank check.
Dad the hard core Socialist always said the Democratic apple may be half rotted but the Republican apple is 1000% rotted and you got to take a bite from one of them...
The idea that there are millions of asylum cases in the backlog is infuriating. Those with legit cases have to wait years for regular status because of all the garbage claims that have to be processed.
Our system is massively underresourced for what we are trying to do.
That Lankford Bill would have been pretty good start. I’d like a regularization provision.
That assumes there are a lot of garbage claims. Given the state of much of the world south of us, I'm not sure the proportion of garbage claims is as high as some make it out to be.
And a lot of that instability is arguably the US' own doing, given our poking around in the region from the 50s through the 90s for reasons of "anti-Communism" (i.e., deposing any popularly elected figure to the left of Ronald Reagan).
Yeah I agree. I think the United States has a moral obligation to take in the migrants that we caused.
The College of the Americas wasn't a private, liberal arts school?
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“Hands-on” practical tool usage
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Maduro must be “politically persecuting” the entire country.
No, but US sanctions are ... openly designed as "political persecution" tools.
I mean...
In seriousness, blame TikTok: Venezuelans and Ecuadorians are bombarded constantly with misinformation about how easy it is to get to the U.S. and to apply for asylum. It's only when they arrive that they realize how much of a bill of goods they were sold.
EDIT: There's also the whole part where Ecuador's verging on civil war.
I don't have access to any more information about these asylum claims than anyone else does. I know the right is all too happy to sell us a story of people lying on asylum claims, and I know the amount of asylum claims that ultimately get accepted isn't as low as the right's narrative would lead one to believe. So I'm suspending judgment on the validity of claims that haven't been processed yet.
TBH with this SCOTUS, and the Fifth Circuit, I'm not sure we can count on the courts actually applying the law as written.