Reese Blizzard for some reason jogged "Joe Beese" and I realized I haven't seen anything from them in a while. Not sure why it matters, just over sharing.
I’ve wondered sometimes if some of the non-commenters here with occasionally conflicting perspectives were malicious foreign influence accounts, trolls with a paycheck, what reinforces it is when history takes a turn and POOF, they’re gone. I remember a “Big Do” whose profile pic was a black guy, I always wondered about that one. Hillz lost and he was gone as far as I can tell. “Joe” may fit the pattern, if there is one.
Mine too! I haven't been there since the late 70s, but want to go next year for family history research. One half of her family was in the mines, and the other half was in law enforcement. So a bit of conflict there.
I actually don't know why it's not used for movie location shoots. Simpson's Rest and Fisher's Peak are marvelous visuals. Plus the architecture. Plus the fascinating history from way back when until now.
I read somewhere that the pot stores sprung up because they have a lot of clientele that make the journey from neighboring NM, OK, TX, and KS to legally buy their bud.
As I was driving down I 55 in Illinois the one time, I saw the sign for Mother Jones' gravesite in Mt. Olive, so I had to pull over for a visit. There's a big monument to her, flanked by statues of a miner and a factory worker. Well worth a visit. Two quotations attributed to her:
"All nations, all men of power have gone down when wealth was in the hands of a few."
"I'm no angel, Get it straight. I'm not a humanitarian, I'm a hell raiser."
"he immediately went back to the coal fields, daring the mine owners and their bought police forces"
"Bought police forces" were a part of the legal landscape from well before Mother Jones. The most notorious of them was The Pinkerton Agency:
> "Pinkerton National Detective Agency, American independent police force that was founded in 1850 by Allan Pinkerton (1819–84), former deputy sheriff of Cook county, Illinois. ... It later participated in antilabour [sic] union activities (see Homestead Strike). It was instrumental in breaking up the Molly Maguires, a secret organization of coal miners." https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pinkerton-National-Detective-Agency
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"For instance, she opposed women’s suffrage and ultimately believed that women should be taking care of their children rather than getting involved in politics."
I haven't researched Mary Jones, so this is a serious question: did Jones think that the only options available to women were motherhood/housewife or politics? She might have been against women's suffrage, but the suffrage movement was already showing that there were other options available besides barefoot and pregnant or political involvement.
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"Mother Jones became known as “the most dangerous woman in America,” a title given to her by a district attorney in West Virginia named Reese Blizzard."
I guess that Mr Blizzard didn't pay much attention to the news. IMO, almost every leader in the suffrage movement were more dangerous to a male hierarchy. People like Susan B Anthony, Carrie Chapman Catt, and the Reverend Doctor Anna Howard Shaw, as just a few examples, where more of a threat to male dominance in toto rather than just the wealthy business owners pissed at her for her union activities.
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"After her second release, Mother Jones went to Washington DC to testify on the conditions in the coal country."
I am both disappointed and proud of her. She stood up for the working man, risking imprisonment or possibly worse, at a time when so many workers were considered expendable. OTOH, she didn't seem to concern herself with how women were treated by a male society. She fought for a fair balance between workers and employers, but not between women and men.
Mother Jones was a great activist and labor organizer. OTH she allied herself with groups like the Knights of Labor (Terrance Powderly) that had rules against organizing women. The Knights also supported the Chinese Exclusion Acts. It seems Mother Jones did not aim her activism towards women working in near slavery in garment, shoe, and mills. The Triangle Shirtwaist fire was in 1911, so Mother Jones would have still be an activist. So, on one hand she was very admirable and mining was a horrific and dangerous occupation. On the other hand, she seems to have agreed with groups like the Knights who excluded women and some workers based on race and ethnicity.
did Jones think that the only options available to women were motherhood/housewife or politics?
in many states and communities women could not own property, get an education past grade school, or own their own business. So the choices at that time were limited. I'm not sure why she would have been opposed to universal suffrage but her stance on labor was that women and children shouldn't be used as a cheap alternative to paying men a living wage. Some Victorians also believed that men were incapable of being good enough role models to raise children and the only way to enforce morality was if women took over that role. And that's how we got the Temperance movement.
Ta, Erik. I'm always interested in the luminaries of labor; this was so long before I became a Union Maid myself. Where is the Mother Jones of 2025?
Here at the pied-à-nuage we're planning tonight's radio show and digesting our great brunch celebrating seven years since we first set eyes on each other at the Red Hook WonkMeet. Did no one take my photo? I did not have the presence of mind to hand my phone off to get one. I was wearing a huge grey felt hat (very Dr. Seuss) and my dreaded hair was down to my knees.
If you have a photo of me among your WonkMeet pictures, please post it and let me know. Our brunch was MyBacon (made of mycelium as the name implies), purple sweet potato pancakes seasoned with two kinds of cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg, cardamom, cloves, and vanilla extract, served with maple syrup, and Yukon Gold air fried home fries seasoned with parsley, sage, rosemary, thyme, chives, smoked paprika, NM chile, and a grind of smoked sea salt from North Carolina, and of course, good strong coffee.
Tonight's show on A Jet Age Sound will celebrate our love and the Equinox. You can hear us at wioxradio.org by clicking the button that says "Listen Live." if you have sound problems, reload the page.
Wow. I knew Mother Jones' name, even subscribed to her magazine (LOL) but I didn't know the whole history of the massacre. I always love how women were portrayed as the weaker sex, dainty and fragile, blah blah blah, but somehow had the hidden power to make large groups of people do things they wouldn't other wise do. "...crooks her finger [and] twenty thousand contented men lay down their tools and walk out.” I just want the power to make my husband run the vacuum through the house. Thanks for this.
"she emerged in middle age as a fiery agitator after her husband and all four of her children died of yellow fever in Memphis and her dress shop burned in the Chicago fire of 1871"
I cannot even fucking imagine. This would cause me to either just die or kill.
It’s LemonJoy – Don Lemon has Joy Reid as guest –“you might as well sign an EO saying Donald is not balding, or you might as well sign an EO saying Donald is handsome – BUT HE LOOKS THE SAME”
Reese Blizzard for some reason jogged "Joe Beese" and I realized I haven't seen anything from them in a while. Not sure why it matters, just over sharing.
Until you mentioned him, I hadn't even given him a thought. And this I will continue to do.
I’ve wondered sometimes if some of the non-commenters here with occasionally conflicting perspectives were malicious foreign influence accounts, trolls with a paycheck, what reinforces it is when history takes a turn and POOF, they’re gone. I remember a “Big Do” whose profile pic was a black guy, I always wondered about that one. Hillz lost and he was gone as far as I can tell. “Joe” may fit the pattern, if there is one.
This is so interesting--my mom's from Trinidad, and I'm there a couple of times a year!
Mine too! I haven't been there since the late 70s, but want to go next year for family history research. One half of her family was in the mines, and the other half was in law enforcement. So a bit of conflict there.
WOW! My grandma was a bookkeeper for the mines for a bit. That's crazy!
It's really pretty in my opinion, and different from the 70s a bit, and SO many pot stores!
I actually don't know why it's not used for movie location shoots. Simpson's Rest and Fisher's Peak are marvelous visuals. Plus the architecture. Plus the fascinating history from way back when until now.
I read somewhere that the pot stores sprung up because they have a lot of clientele that make the journey from neighboring NM, OK, TX, and KS to legally buy their bud.
My mom still manages to be shocked--"there's a pot store across the street from the Fox theater! I played my accordion there!"
:D
Excellent article.
"Reese Blizzard"? Seriously?
Obligatory song on any post related to miners:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qhUtHqRbJk
Another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mDlxuVHZT4&t=2s
And one more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K8b211MJw
If a movie is made about her, Tim Blake Nelson should play Resse Blizzard.
That photograph! Someone could write a book about it, and I would avidly read it.
As I was driving down I 55 in Illinois the one time, I saw the sign for Mother Jones' gravesite in Mt. Olive, so I had to pull over for a visit. There's a big monument to her, flanked by statues of a miner and a factory worker. Well worth a visit. Two quotations attributed to her:
"All nations, all men of power have gone down when wealth was in the hands of a few."
"I'm no angel, Get it straight. I'm not a humanitarian, I'm a hell raiser."
"he immediately went back to the coal fields, daring the mine owners and their bought police forces"
"Bought police forces" were a part of the legal landscape from well before Mother Jones. The most notorious of them was The Pinkerton Agency:
> "Pinkerton National Detective Agency, American independent police force that was founded in 1850 by Allan Pinkerton (1819–84), former deputy sheriff of Cook county, Illinois. ... It later participated in antilabour [sic] union activities (see Homestead Strike). It was instrumental in breaking up the Molly Maguires, a secret organization of coal miners." https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pinkerton-National-Detective-Agency
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"For instance, she opposed women’s suffrage and ultimately believed that women should be taking care of their children rather than getting involved in politics."
I haven't researched Mary Jones, so this is a serious question: did Jones think that the only options available to women were motherhood/housewife or politics? She might have been against women's suffrage, but the suffrage movement was already showing that there were other options available besides barefoot and pregnant or political involvement.
-----
"Mother Jones became known as “the most dangerous woman in America,” a title given to her by a district attorney in West Virginia named Reese Blizzard."
I guess that Mr Blizzard didn't pay much attention to the news. IMO, almost every leader in the suffrage movement were more dangerous to a male hierarchy. People like Susan B Anthony, Carrie Chapman Catt, and the Reverend Doctor Anna Howard Shaw, as just a few examples, where more of a threat to male dominance in toto rather than just the wealthy business owners pissed at her for her union activities.
-----
"After her second release, Mother Jones went to Washington DC to testify on the conditions in the coal country."
I am both disappointed and proud of her. She stood up for the working man, risking imprisonment or possibly worse, at a time when so many workers were considered expendable. OTOH, she didn't seem to concern herself with how women were treated by a male society. She fought for a fair balance between workers and employers, but not between women and men.
fnord
Mother Jones was a great activist and labor organizer. OTH she allied herself with groups like the Knights of Labor (Terrance Powderly) that had rules against organizing women. The Knights also supported the Chinese Exclusion Acts. It seems Mother Jones did not aim her activism towards women working in near slavery in garment, shoe, and mills. The Triangle Shirtwaist fire was in 1911, so Mother Jones would have still be an activist. So, on one hand she was very admirable and mining was a horrific and dangerous occupation. On the other hand, she seems to have agreed with groups like the Knights who excluded women and some workers based on race and ethnicity.
did Jones think that the only options available to women were motherhood/housewife or politics?
in many states and communities women could not own property, get an education past grade school, or own their own business. So the choices at that time were limited. I'm not sure why she would have been opposed to universal suffrage but her stance on labor was that women and children shouldn't be used as a cheap alternative to paying men a living wage. Some Victorians also believed that men were incapable of being good enough role models to raise children and the only way to enforce morality was if women took over that role. And that's how we got the Temperance movement.
If you're interested in a page turning read about mining, miners, labor etc read "Fire and Brimstone: The North Butte Mining Disaster of 1917".
The Decemberists' song Rox in the Box was inspired by this story.
https://youtu.be/wIjugoe2Z80?si=lxZf4LGhiczwrLCH
Huge Decemberists fan here. TYSM
Ur welcome!
Arkansas/St. John's is shaping up to be a doozy of a game! Who can sustain the intensity?
St. John's in some trouble now!
St. John’s is allegedly the best second half team in the country, but Arkansas is challenging that right now.
Arkansas has size and is grinding them down, low scoring game is perfect for them.
I'm all in for Arkansas.
At the professional level Connect Four can be really, really exciting.
As are pro drone races and egaming.
fnord
Dear White People –
Do Not Adopt Black Children and Treat Them as Slaves bc You Could STILL Be Sentenced to 150 Years in Jail – Karen Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0OYyQafPlw
Ta, Erik. I'm always interested in the luminaries of labor; this was so long before I became a Union Maid myself. Where is the Mother Jones of 2025?
Here at the pied-à-nuage we're planning tonight's radio show and digesting our great brunch celebrating seven years since we first set eyes on each other at the Red Hook WonkMeet. Did no one take my photo? I did not have the presence of mind to hand my phone off to get one. I was wearing a huge grey felt hat (very Dr. Seuss) and my dreaded hair was down to my knees.
If you have a photo of me among your WonkMeet pictures, please post it and let me know. Our brunch was MyBacon (made of mycelium as the name implies), purple sweet potato pancakes seasoned with two kinds of cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg, cardamom, cloves, and vanilla extract, served with maple syrup, and Yukon Gold air fried home fries seasoned with parsley, sage, rosemary, thyme, chives, smoked paprika, NM chile, and a grind of smoked sea salt from North Carolina, and of course, good strong coffee.
Tonight's show on A Jet Age Sound will celebrate our love and the Equinox. You can hear us at wioxradio.org by clicking the button that says "Listen Live." if you have sound problems, reload the page.
"Where is the Mother Jones of 2025?"
It's AOC
Wow. I knew Mother Jones' name, even subscribed to her magazine (LOL) but I didn't know the whole history of the massacre. I always love how women were portrayed as the weaker sex, dainty and fragile, blah blah blah, but somehow had the hidden power to make large groups of people do things they wouldn't other wise do. "...crooks her finger [and] twenty thousand contented men lay down their tools and walk out.” I just want the power to make my husband run the vacuum through the house. Thanks for this.
"she emerged in middle age as a fiery agitator after her husband and all four of her children died of yellow fever in Memphis and her dress shop burned in the Chicago fire of 1871"
I cannot even fucking imagine. This would cause me to either just die or kill.
She had no fucks to give.
Omg, yes! Reading that I thought: That sort of thing either destroys you or makes you the baddest of the bad-asses.
It’s LemonJoy – Don Lemon has Joy Reid as guest –“you might as well sign an EO saying Donald is not balding, or you might as well sign an EO saying Donald is handsome – BUT HE LOOKS THE SAME”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgWOnknOWxA