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bakeneko's avatar

As horrifying as this clearly sadistic and inhuman torture policy is, the section that I find most chilling is the involuntary administration of "psychotropic medications" to incarcerated people due to their being transgendered, as if it was a mental illness rather than a biological reality.

Springer's 'Health and Justice Journal' published a paper on this last year, entitled "A review of policies on the involuntary use of psychotropic medications among persons experiencing incarceration in the United States", which readers here may find value:

https://healthandjusticejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40352-023-00204-1

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Crip Dyke. This infuriates me on so many levels. Trans rights are human rights, and nothing less will do. Ever.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Crip Dyke. This infuriates me on so many levels. Trans rights are human rights, and nothing less will do. Ever.

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Greg's avatar

To fascists a day without torture and cruelty is like a day without sunshine.

But hey, I have no violent intents towards them, I'm a good little democrat kitty who would never harm a soul, even when that soul is a malevolent piece of shit coming to kill you and yours. Violence is always wrong, right?

Or that's how they seem to going with it.

Someday some motherfuckers in the democrat party will understand that you don't fight people who want you dead with reason and logic.

LOL, nah, they'll all be dead before they figure that shit out. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/aoc-committee-oversight-vote-connolly-1235208146/

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Gern Blansten's avatar

What was it somebody once said?

“No one is free when others are oppressed?”

How do the actual perpetrators of all this horrible mistreatment continue to get up day after day and tell themselves that the torment and torture they are the deliverers of is just and necessary?

Sickening.

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bakeneko's avatar

As well as the old Industrial Workers of the World slogan:

'An injury to one is an injury to all."

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Wookiee Monster's avatar

The cruelty is the point.

That remains true now as it did four years ago, especially we head into PAB 2.0. Republicans are never happy unless they’re making the “other” suffer.

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Nancy Naive's avatar

Wait. These are born male prisoners transitioning to female in a men’s prison. Presumably, these breast exams are being performed by male guards. Well, doggies! This is getting weird. What guard… never mind.

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Wendy The Druid 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🌈's avatar

Of course is fucking florida.

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rodger coghlan's avatar

Oh, god damn it! Doom scrolling is going to send me over the edge. I know it is important that we know all this shit but please, more kitties

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Nancy Naive's avatar

Whew! Kitties. K

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mvario's avatar

It Is Journalism’s Sacred Duty To Endanger The Lives Of As Many Trans People As Possible - The Onion

https://theonion.com/it-is-journalism-s-sacred-duty-to-endanger-the-lives-of-1850126997/

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Hank Napkin's avatar

Florida. Fordlandia. Coincidence? I don't think so...

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Linda1961 is woke and proud's avatar

The cruelty is the point.

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Nancy Naive's avatar

I think the only redeeming aspect of the past 10 years is that Reagan would have puked to be called a Republican today. Nixon too.

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Linda1961 is woke and proud's avatar

Reagan campaigned for Truman in 1948. Don’t know what happened for him to become a repub, but there is no doubt that you are right on both counts.

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Gern Blansten's avatar

$$$$$

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Parakeetist's avatar

Everybody needs health care, and that includes trans people.

But you have to see people as, well, people to do that, and Republicans want to decide what adults can and can't do with their own bodies.

I support trans rights, because everybody needs rights. Everybody should have health care.

Physical abuse in prison is against human rights. Is it possible to bring a case before The Hague?

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Crip Dyke's avatar

It is, actually! Good thought!

Practical changes on the ground haven't been successful as a result of Hague suits, but sometimes those suits, when they are successful, will be incorporated into the reasoning of appellate court and Supreme Court decisions. So... they have influence, but they have no control over what happens within US borders.

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Satanic Pancake's avatar

The race to the bottom continues apace. Unfortunately, someone keeps moving the bottom.

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Sgt JMK's avatar

Seems that hell always has a basement.

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CzechJournalists's avatar

always be like Zaphod Beeblebrox. . .

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Crip Dyke's avatar

I once called it "The race to the Challenging Deep" as a deliberate play on the name of the Challenger Deep.

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SethTriggs's avatar

Torturing of prisoners is something a lot of Americans are proud of. Because after all, they wouldn't be in prison if they didn't do A Bad Thing. And Bad People deserve to be tortured. It makes Americans feel better.

We lock up people and we do it cruelly. And when there's evidence that some areas are less cruel, we use this as a political cudgel to make sure that things get worse. Hence the "They let criminals out to do more crimes" stuff and the people upset about cash bail being abolished in some areas.

To be able to torture trans people is just a bonus, especially for the unreconstructed. And make no bones about it, these folks wanted Kamala Harris to torture trans prisoners too. That's why the flap about gender affirmation surgery in prison and how that was weaponized in the election.

And this will continue because the hate and allegiance to torture is very enjoyable to Americans. They definitely voted for more of it in 2024.

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EyeQueue's avatar

I'm reading "Fantasyland" by Kurt Andersen right now, and he addresses this issue (that the US is the only advanced Western nation to have such a high rate of people believing that you must deserve what you get, and that random chance doesn't factor into life's outcomes as much as people's individual choices and actions).

It's enraging, and is taking me way longer to read it b/c I have to take frequent breaks. He paints a well-documented and convincing picture of why we are where we are today.

It's mostly due to the whackadoodle version of Christianity that took root here, along with a bunch of other woo that credulous people in this country (and that would be most of them) fall prey to more so than any other advanced Western nation.

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Babe Paley's avatar

One of the most horrible things about growing up and paying attention to the world around you is learning that there are so many people who seem "normal" who have very dark streaks of cruelty.

Of course, that makes you appreciate the helpers and the thoughtful people more, but still.

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SkeptiKC's avatar

American prisoners are treated with disrespect and brutality while they're incarcerated.

Yet American tax payers have the audacity to so indignantly question the high rates of recidivism.

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EyeQueue's avatar

And then once they are out and have supposedly "served their debt to society" are subject to a bunch of discrimination and a load of bullshit.

My little brother has dealt with it for the last fuckin 15 years. It's rage-inducing.

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SethTriggs's avatar

This pisses me off too. So much punitive nature and nobody wants to put 2+2 together. It's the same way that the unhoused are treated.

Nobody thinks of "If we keep torturing people in prison, they come out broken and they'll have no ability to do anything but crime in order to survive."

It's to the point that prison is tantamount to a death sentence. And judging by the kinds of abhorrent commenters you'll find on news articles, they'd love to do extrajudicial summary execution.

Same thing with the unhoused. Just torture them into not being unhoused with all the behaviors that housed people find annoying. That'll learn 'em!

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phantom_stranger's avatar

“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”

― Aldous Huxley, Crome Yellow

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phantom_stranger's avatar

I notice that much of the fury of the despicable haters are mostly directed at trans girls and women. I wonder if the movie The Crying Game didn't enflame much of this terror of men that they might discover the woman they were attracted to was once a man. I think misogyny and men's fears of not being dominant are at the back of this. I am definitely open to education and correction here.

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Tza's avatar

Oh yeah, trans panic as a defense is very similar to gay panic. "I killed her because she was trans" should be a HATE CRIME not a defense.

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phantom_stranger's avatar

I agree.

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