THese business guys ill never get it through their heads that government is not a business as they understand it. It is not in business to make a profit but to serve the nation and provide for the full myriad of functions that keep the polity alive. Trump is out to kill it because that is what he does to everything he touches.
If sending Elise Stefanik to the UN is what it takes to keep that gaping wound in the middle of her face shut, then I'm all for it.
On another note, Jeff Tiedrich referred to Tom Homan as 'Dollar Store Michael Chiklas' and I am
D-E-D. But the piece de resistance came late this afternoon when Orange named Elno and Ramalamadingdong to be co-heads of the 'government efficiency department. Between the two of them, they will destroy the federal bureaucracy. At least, that's the goal.
The clash of egos between the two of them could set a building on fire. Will be wild. [Now where have I heard that before?]
Seriously, what's the over/under on Elno lasting before Orange gets fed up with his act and kicks him to the curb. One massive ego per administration.
Noem is perfect for Homeland Security. She has lots of experience shooting helpless creatures who are not doing anything to her. This makes her perfect to oversee Wall and Moat and Nets To Tangle In On The Rio Grand and Barbwire and Lazers and Spikes On Fences and so on.
Smallpox? That may well be; I don't know, but their track record with the Covid issue is 'iffy" given the fact that a lot of people have suffered harms from the MRNA technology. Regards their top man; Tedros; he has ties to a terror organization in Ethiopia and it is widely held that he is in the hip pocket of the CCP.
Ta, Dok. I read Marge Piercy's brilliant WWII novel, Gone to Soldiers, a few years ago. I felt terror as a family of Parisian Jews got rounded up and deported. Is this maladministration going to give all of us PTSD?
As far as citizen children go, they're not fetuses, so he doesn't consider them people. Citizen spouses is a bit trickier, but once he's deported the non-person citizen children, no one will even notice when they start deporting citizen spouses. After all, they deserve it for marrying (misdemeanor) criminals, right?
They will eliminate birthright citizenship so eventually everyone will have to leave anyway. North America will be as empty as his brain once even the Indigenous population is sent back to Russia via a land bridge on the Bering Strait.
This is a rogues' gallery of appointments BUT to insert a teeny, tiny silver cloud into the discussion: Remember t'rump's first administration? It took a short time - months - before the first appointments started dropping like flies. Can you see Christie Noem, who killed a puppy for not obeying commands, effectively managing 20, 30-year-government careerists in Homeland Security? I see her as either red-lined into oblivion or fired in under six months. And Stephen Miller? He couldn't even work with the MAGAS running t'rump's campaign, much less work on the complex, bureaucracy-driven chief of staff position. Along with the tea party reps in the House ham-stringing all attempts as passing WH proposals. I see these appointments as being so incompetent that many of t'rump's goals, like the half-built wall at Mexico, will be only half-assed implemented. I HOPE.
Re-inserting some dark cloud. Not to go all Godwin, but Hitler's management style is liable to be a model for Trump's (unwittingly, as with most things with him). That is, he sets up little satraps and does not dictate much policy himself. Instead, he lets the satraps vie for attention, resources, etc. "This is what the Führer PROBABLY wants me to do." The underlings fight it out, Trump preserves deniability in case anything goes wrong.
The firings, at least at first, will be senior administrators. The fact is (that no one acknowledges) that the government is run by tens of thousands of unknown civil servants and contractors who will, for the most part, not be affected for several years, if ever. When the right-wing appointees step into office, it's these people that will confound the goals. I'm not saying that the t'rump goals won't be accomplished at all, I'm saying that it's highly unlikely that they will come to full fruition. Now, the longer this goes on, the more damage there will be. A more likely scenario is that the employees will get rid of themselves. The federal workforce is, on average, about 10 years older than the population and educational levels are sky-high. Many will opt for retirement or other jobs rather than put up with being abused by political appointees. During the Bush II administration, federal employees left in droves. But, we'll see what happens. When goals like t'rumps are basically unachievable (deport all immigrants, get rid of all government employees), they end in very limited success.
Oh yeah a lot of them will vote with their feet. You get to be over 50 in a gubmint jerb and you’re within spitting distance of retirement if you’re lucky enough to still have Rule of 80.
As my father used to say to me years ago. The U.N. wanted to be able to tell a citizen in the United States whether or not they had a right to keep and bear arms. Should an outside (of this country) entity be able to tell yourself, or anyone else for that matter, what rights they have within their own country? I would hope not.
I didn't say that made him correct. He educated me on what their intentions were. You're saying that you believe that an outside entity, people who may very well not even be citizens of this country; should be able to dictate your rights within the confines of this country?
I would find it interesting as to why you might feel that way. Please expound. That sort of runs counter to the founding of this country, I would think.
One can never say 'never'. There have been measures taken to prevent ownership of certain types of firearms. Does the average citizen need certain types of firearms. I don't know but if there is the banning of any one variety it could set a frightening precedent for the future. Just that there are some who are of that mindset is cause for concern. Hopefully, it would never come to that as, truth be told, all rights are supported by that one for if one cannot defend themselves then all other rights just fall apart in the wake. Founding Fathers; obviously, including that as protection against a government that would seek to impose any sort of tyranny, be it from either side of our political divide.
Any common ground reached can only be attained through discourse. It is always good to know how others think. What have you to offer regards the U.N. or the W.H.O.
The W.H.O. does a lot of good thoughout the world in the prevention of disease. I know that Trump has ordered his cult to villify them just like he did with the CDC, but that doesn't erase the good that it has done. For example, it played a major role in the eradication of smallpox.
I believe I made a civil comment. Not that everyone would agree. I was of the belief that these forums were for civil discourse. How can those of one mindset ever understand those of another if there isn't discussion? If that is not allowed on this forum then pardon me and I will not contribute, again. I have said, repeatedly (not on this site) that this country is so divided on any number of subjects that I am not certain it can ever walk back from the ledge upon which it sits and that did not occur by chance.
Now, if Chump refuses to comply with the new transition requirements passed (and signed into law by him), Biden's hands are tied. He can't transition.
Chump wants those anonymous private donations to the transition committee that he can't get once he signs, so I guess these lifetime members of the Church of the Subpar will just have to figure out how to run the country on the fly January 20th.
Get him out of the country, and put him in the middle of the conflict in Israel. He will advocate for the Rapture and be blamed for any and all failures of Trump's Israel policy. ;D
HuffPost: "House Republican leaders on Tuesday suggested President-elect Donald Trump not look to their ranks for any more picks for his White House Cabinet, acknowledging their cushion for votes will be narrow. “He’s already pulled a few really talented people out of the House. Hopefully, no more for a little while until special elections can come,” said House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) at a Capitol Hill press conference."
Zeldin's district is ...Long Island? OK. Lots of climate critical activity there. Do Rich Wypipo summer homes count as climate related activity? I think LI had potato farms once, long ago. Very long ago.
I would think that would only be if they are here, undocumented. I think that there is some misunderstanding about those in favor of deportation . The country is one of immigrants and should well be if the proper procedure is followed. Not just rewarding of people who do do not follow the protocol of acquiring citizenship.
If they are walking down the wrong street and the Border Patrol is running a sweep, they will be swept. Documentation, naturalization, birth, their family living in are with ancestors going back to before there was a US won't matter. Wrong color, they will be deported. Good luck getting back to East LA.
Or Texas. This is a Ken Paxton wet dream. Trump’s first term was a nightmare and lots of citizens were caught in that net. In Austin, if a citizen was sharing a living space with suspected(real or false) undocumented immigrants -especially Hispanics - the citizen’s phone, computer etc was confiscated and their homes raided
THese business guys ill never get it through their heads that government is not a business as they understand it. It is not in business to make a profit but to serve the nation and provide for the full myriad of functions that keep the polity alive. Trump is out to kill it because that is what he does to everything he touches.
The correct answer is none of them, because his AG is a nut and Trump will pardon anyone who might "rat him out."
If sending Elise Stefanik to the UN is what it takes to keep that gaping wound in the middle of her face shut, then I'm all for it.
On another note, Jeff Tiedrich referred to Tom Homan as 'Dollar Store Michael Chiklas' and I am
D-E-D. But the piece de resistance came late this afternoon when Orange named Elno and Ramalamadingdong to be co-heads of the 'government efficiency department. Between the two of them, they will destroy the federal bureaucracy. At least, that's the goal.
The clash of egos between the two of them could set a building on fire. Will be wild. [Now where have I heard that before?]
Seriously, what's the over/under on Elno lasting before Orange gets fed up with his act and kicks him to the curb. One massive ego per administration.
Personally, I'm wondering how long Wiles will last. Trump tends to burn through CoSs the same as he does Cabinet members.
Noem is perfect for Homeland Security. She has lots of experience shooting helpless creatures who are not doing anything to her. This makes her perfect to oversee Wall and Moat and Nets To Tangle In On The Rio Grand and Barbwire and Lazers and Spikes On Fences and so on.
Smallpox? That may well be; I don't know, but their track record with the Covid issue is 'iffy" given the fact that a lot of people have suffered harms from the MRNA technology. Regards their top man; Tedros; he has ties to a terror organization in Ethiopia and it is widely held that he is in the hip pocket of the CCP.
Ta, Dok. I read Marge Piercy's brilliant WWII novel, Gone to Soldiers, a few years ago. I felt terror as a family of Parisian Jews got rounded up and deported. Is this maladministration going to give all of us PTSD?
As far as citizen children go, they're not fetuses, so he doesn't consider them people. Citizen spouses is a bit trickier, but once he's deported the non-person citizen children, no one will even notice when they start deporting citizen spouses. After all, they deserve it for marrying (misdemeanor) criminals, right?
They will eliminate birthright citizenship so eventually everyone will have to leave anyway. North America will be as empty as his brain once even the Indigenous population is sent back to Russia via a land bridge on the Bering Strait.
This is a rogues' gallery of appointments BUT to insert a teeny, tiny silver cloud into the discussion: Remember t'rump's first administration? It took a short time - months - before the first appointments started dropping like flies. Can you see Christie Noem, who killed a puppy for not obeying commands, effectively managing 20, 30-year-government careerists in Homeland Security? I see her as either red-lined into oblivion or fired in under six months. And Stephen Miller? He couldn't even work with the MAGAS running t'rump's campaign, much less work on the complex, bureaucracy-driven chief of staff position. Along with the tea party reps in the House ham-stringing all attempts as passing WH proposals. I see these appointments as being so incompetent that many of t'rump's goals, like the half-built wall at Mexico, will be only half-assed implemented. I HOPE.
Re-inserting some dark cloud. Not to go all Godwin, but Hitler's management style is liable to be a model for Trump's (unwittingly, as with most things with him). That is, he sets up little satraps and does not dictate much policy himself. Instead, he lets the satraps vie for attention, resources, etc. "This is what the Führer PROBABLY wants me to do." The underlings fight it out, Trump preserves deniability in case anything goes wrong.
There won’t be any 30 year careerists left. Job one is firing them, remember?
The firings, at least at first, will be senior administrators. The fact is (that no one acknowledges) that the government is run by tens of thousands of unknown civil servants and contractors who will, for the most part, not be affected for several years, if ever. When the right-wing appointees step into office, it's these people that will confound the goals. I'm not saying that the t'rump goals won't be accomplished at all, I'm saying that it's highly unlikely that they will come to full fruition. Now, the longer this goes on, the more damage there will be. A more likely scenario is that the employees will get rid of themselves. The federal workforce is, on average, about 10 years older than the population and educational levels are sky-high. Many will opt for retirement or other jobs rather than put up with being abused by political appointees. During the Bush II administration, federal employees left in droves. But, we'll see what happens. When goals like t'rumps are basically unachievable (deport all immigrants, get rid of all government employees), they end in very limited success.
Oh yeah a lot of them will vote with their feet. You get to be over 50 in a gubmint jerb and you’re within spitting distance of retirement if you’re lucky enough to still have Rule of 80.
exactly. i'm actually kinda heartened by this nonsense. i mean kristie noem and now a FOX news host at defense? and Musk and Ramaswamy?
what did marx say: "History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce”.
it never occurred to me that Trump 2 might be farce.
(and I know i know i know but i have to at least allow it in this stupidest of timelines)
I thought he said, "I'd never want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member."
Trump hates the UN
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As should any freedom loving American. They are not our friend; contrary to what they; themselves might want to lead one to believe.
zOMG the Birchers were right!
Bwahahaha.
As my father used to say to me years ago. The U.N. wanted to be able to tell a citizen in the United States whether or not they had a right to keep and bear arms. Should an outside (of this country) entity be able to tell yourself, or anyone else for that matter, what rights they have within their own country? I would hope not.
Right. Get off North Korea's back, everybody!
Just because he’s your father doesn’t mean he’s right.
I didn't say that made him correct. He educated me on what their intentions were. You're saying that you believe that an outside entity, people who may very well not even be citizens of this country; should be able to dictate your rights within the confines of this country?
Yes.
I would find it interesting as to why you might feel that way. Please expound. That sort of runs counter to the founding of this country, I would think.
Weird. It seems like everyone wants to grab 'ur gunz! And yet, no guns ever get grabbed up.
One can never say 'never'. There have been measures taken to prevent ownership of certain types of firearms. Does the average citizen need certain types of firearms. I don't know but if there is the banning of any one variety it could set a frightening precedent for the future. Just that there are some who are of that mindset is cause for concern. Hopefully, it would never come to that as, truth be told, all rights are supported by that one for if one cannot defend themselves then all other rights just fall apart in the wake. Founding Fathers; obviously, including that as protection against a government that would seek to impose any sort of tyranny, be it from either side of our political divide.
Wake me when someone actually tries to gab 'ur gunz.
As I mentioned, one can never say never. Just because it hasn't occurred to this point in time. I, myself, own not one.
🖕Rightwing troll.
probably but why the fuck does it have to be so boring and regurgitating 80's right wing talking points.
so fucking boring.
Sealion.
Correct
Then please , if you will, enlighten me on what is supposedly good about them? It can't be their ties to the W.HO. or, possibly even the W.E.F.
Well since you've pre-emptively eliminated two possible answers, why should I expect you would accept anything I say?
Any common ground reached can only be attained through discourse. It is always good to know how others think. What have you to offer regards the U.N. or the W.H.O.
The W.H.O. does a lot of good thoughout the world in the prevention of disease. I know that Trump has ordered his cult to villify them just like he did with the CDC, but that doesn't erase the good that it has done. For example, it played a major role in the eradication of smallpox.
I've seen a few of them in this particular comment section. Interesting.
I believe I made a civil comment. Not that everyone would agree. I was of the belief that these forums were for civil discourse. How can those of one mindset ever understand those of another if there isn't discussion? If that is not allowed on this forum then pardon me and I will not contribute, again. I have said, repeatedly (not on this site) that this country is so divided on any number of subjects that I am not certain it can ever walk back from the ledge upon which it sits and that did not occur by chance.
https://wondermark.com/c/1062/
Thanks for your thoughts.
does the end of jus soli in us apply to russian & chinese birth tourists?
Now that is a truly impressive pack of ghouls and failures to ruin--whoops! I mean run--our government.
Now, if Chump refuses to comply with the new transition requirements passed (and signed into law by him), Biden's hands are tied. He can't transition.
Chump wants those anonymous private donations to the transition committee that he can't get once he signs, so I guess these lifetime members of the Church of the Subpar will just have to figure out how to run the country on the fly January 20th.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee is Trump’s pick to serve as ambassador to Israel. [HuffPost]
but why?
So he can personally greet Jesus when he comes back to kill all the nonbelievers (ie, the Jews).
Get him out of the country, and put him in the middle of the conflict in Israel. He will advocate for the Rapture and be blamed for any and all failures of Trump's Israel policy. ;D
My personal choice for rewards for debased loyalty wouldn't be to spend a lot of time in the middle east.
armageddon.
HuffPost: "House Republican leaders on Tuesday suggested President-elect Donald Trump not look to their ranks for any more picks for his White House Cabinet, acknowledging their cushion for votes will be narrow. “He’s already pulled a few really talented people out of the House. Hopefully, no more for a little while until special elections can come,” said House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R-La.) at a Capitol Hill press conference."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
(deep breath)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!
"Talented people".
O rly
My money's on Zeldin going first, because Russia doesn't like him. Iirc he's actually banned from Russia.
Zeldin's district is ...Long Island? OK. Lots of climate critical activity there. Do Rich Wypipo summer homes count as climate related activity? I think LI had potato farms once, long ago. Very long ago.
I know some Latinos who voted for Trump. Will never stop laughing when they get deported.
Also, This may be a “Katie bar the door” situation, which isn’t logical but I’ve heard explanation’s like this with my own ears.
I would think that would only be if they are here, undocumented. I think that there is some misunderstanding about those in favor of deportation . The country is one of immigrants and should well be if the proper procedure is followed. Not just rewarding of people who do do not follow the protocol of acquiring citizenship.
If they are walking down the wrong street and the Border Patrol is running a sweep, they will be swept. Documentation, naturalization, birth, their family living in are with ancestors going back to before there was a US won't matter. Wrong color, they will be deported. Good luck getting back to East LA.
Or Texas. This is a Ken Paxton wet dream. Trump’s first term was a nightmare and lots of citizens were caught in that net. In Austin, if a citizen was sharing a living space with suspected(real or false) undocumented immigrants -especially Hispanics - the citizen’s phone, computer etc was confiscated and their homes raided