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Pence last night, lookin' pretty.


All the pundits are saying words right now about what happened during Tuesday's vice presidential debate -- who was hot, who was not, who helped their top of ticket (Tim Kaine) and who helped themselves, maybe in, say, 2020 (Mike Pence) -- but one of our very favorite moments of the debate was when moderator Elaine Quijano switched gears and asked a very clever question of the candidates, both of whom talk many bunches about their religious faith:

You have both been open about the role that faith has played in your lives. Can you discuss in detail a time when you struggled to balance your personal faith and a public policy position?

GOOD QUESTION! The key word is "balance." Another way of asking would have been, "Can you talk about a time when you, a religious person, chose not to cram your faith down the public's throat?" It was a very Separation Of Church And State question! Tim Kaine answered first, saying his very Catholic position on the death penalty is it is wrong and bad, but he made the very difficult decision to uphold the law as Virginia governor when he had to. It wasn't what we were expecting, but OK!

Then it was Mike Pence's turn to tell us about a time he recognized that his personal beliefs were not meant to be imposed on a society made up of people who may or may not share his beliefs, and decided to uphold the law. He rambled about church on Sunday, accepting Jesus Christ into his heart and playing the ass in the church's annual nativity scene for a while, and then finally got around to the question:

... I would tell you that for me the sanctity of life proceeds out of the belief that -- that ancient principle that -- where God says before you were formed in the womb, I knew you, and so for my first time in public life, I sought to stand with great compassion for the sanctity of life.

The state of Indiana has also sought to make sure that we expand alternatives in health care counseling for women, non-abortion alternatives. I'm also very pleased at the fact we're well on our way in Indiana to becoming the most pro-adoption state in America. I think if you're going to be pro-life, you should -- you should be pro-adoption.

He "balanced his personal faith and public policy" by cramming his religiously motivated anti-abortion views down everybody's throats. That is not what the nice moderator asked!

But what I can't understand is with Hillary Clinton and now Senator Kaine at her side is to support a practice like partial-birth abortion. I mean, to hold to the view -- and I know Senator Kaine, you hold pro-life views personally -- but the very idea that a child that is almost born into the world could still have their life taken from them is just anathema to me.

OH FUCK YOU with the "partial-birth abortion" bullshit. It's not a real medical term, and anybody who's studied abortion for five goddamn seconds knows the late term abortions he's talking about tend to be tragic cases, often with very WANTED pregnancies, medical situations you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy. Like this one.

A back-and-forth began between the two candidates -- both of whom are personally "pro-life" -- with Kaine discussing, again, how he doesn't impose his OWN personal faith beliefs on his constituents, whereas Pence does. And Pence's record shows he does it constantly, on this issue and others.

Look, here is a video about how Pence basically invented the idea of defunding Planned Parenthood, denying basic things like cancer screenings and STD testing, all on account of his religious beliefs. We posted it yesterday. Let's watch it again!

After Pence's crusade killed off five Planned Parenthood clinics in Indiana, everybody was SHOCK AND AWED when tiny Scott County, at the southern end of the state, experienced a major HIV outbreak. Wonder how that happened! Is it maybe because Planned Parenthood provides WAY more services than just abortion? (FYI: none of the clinics closed in Indiana provided abortion services.)

[wonkbar]<a href="http://wonkette.com/600021/indiana-protects-unborned-babies-from-their-racist-sexist-mommies"></a>[/wonkbar]In 2015, Pence signed one of the most insane anti-abortion laws in the country, which was killed by a mean federal judge because she says it's "unconstitutional," pfffffft, whatever that means. The clever thing about this particular law is that it was written to look like an anti-discrimination law, banning race- and sex-selective abortions, as if hordes of pregnant women are out there doing racism and sexism to their fetuses. It also has a bunch of new, invasive stuff requiring counseling about "perinatal hospice care," for women considering abortions because their babies are going to die within minutes of birth. In Pence's worldview, those mommies probably are just doing abortions so they can go back out to slut it up at the bar some more, right?

So good job, Mike Pence, telling us about that time you "balanced" your personal faith with public policy, by starting your own dipshit version of the Crusades against Planned Parenthood and getting all up inside ladies' reproductive parts, like a good Christian Republican.

Oh, but don't worry, ladies! Pence will do ALL THE THINGS to make your lives more difficult, but he said in the debate he won't put you in jail for 'borting your baby:

Donald Trump and I would never support legislation that punished women who made the heartbreaking choice to end a pregnancy.

Oh, wait, he already put one lady in jail. Don't mind her though.

And don't mind how he will make you pay for your miscarriage's funeral, just like they want to in Texas.

[wonkbar]<a href="http://wonkette.com/600212/donald-trump-will-bomb-sht-out-of-ladies-who-have-abortions-murder-their-families"></a>[/wonkbar]Kaine asked, "Then why did Donald Trump say that?" Pence replied that Trump isn't some "polished politician" like dirty Hillary Clinton and slippery Tim Kaine, and sometimes he doesn't words good. So that's that, we guess!

We're sure Jesus and Donald Trump are REAL proud.

[debate transcript via Washington Post]

Evan Hurst

Evan Hurst is the senior editor of Wonkette, which means he is the boss of you, unless you are Rebecca, who is boss of him. His dog Lula is judging you right now.

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