Connect the dots, sheeple! In 2015, science remained a suspicious activity many conservative politicians thought was probably all a leftist plot, with only one Republican presidential candidate willing to say that climate change is real and human-caused. And that guy
When I hear ignorant people say bad things about vaccines, I think of my grandmother, who lost her 4-yr-old firstborn son and 2-month-old twin daughters in the same week during a diphtheria epidemic in 1906. She also lost a 6-yr-old son and 1-yr-old daughter in the same week during the Spanish Flu epidemic in 1919. Later that same year, her 4-yr-old daughter (my mother) almost died during a Scarlet Fever epidemic. Some people believe the risks of vaccines are too high, but the risks of no vaccines are much higher.
Why is measles still around? We got rid of small pox so well that the kids don't have to get that vaccine any more. They don't get polio vaccine any more either. That only took 30 years to eradicate. Why is measles so persistent?
There is an important distinction between thinking a vaccine is a good idea and thinking it should be legally mandated. This is often lost in the discussion, as people who oppose the mandating of vaccines are commonly confused with people who think vaccines are necessarily bad. It is not anti-science to oppose excessive government intervention. It is anti-science to lump all vaccines together as either all-good or all-bad.
The helmet law has been done away with in Pennsylvania, yet most people on motorbikes still wear them. When an idea is a good one, it doesn't need to be forced.
Get your daughters vaccinated for HPV. Gardasil is safe. The fear-mongering about it is largely baseless and cervical cancer is nothing to fuck around with.
Bullshit. Measles kills 1 in every 1000 children that is infected. 1 in 1000 will develop encephalitis, which can cause deafness and learning disabilities. It also causes pneumonia, the leading cause of death from measles, in 5% of all pediatric cases. 10% of children will suffer ear infections that can cause permanent hearing impairment. Those things aren't fucking nuisances, moron!
No, the vaccine isn't 100%, no vaccine is. But it is 97% when properly dosed. That means that when 100 properly vaccinated children are exposed, only 3 are at risk of infection. When 100 unvaccinated children are exposed, 100 are at risk. That's a pretty big difference. Plus, when vaccinated children become infected, they have less complications than unvaccinated children who become infected. The only reason more vaccinated people were infected in the Disneyland outbreak is because there are so many more vaccinated people than unvaccinated. If the unvaccinated population was significantly higher, the infection rate would've been astronomical with dozens of pediatric deaths.
Taking away "choice" from arrogant, ignorant fuckwits who actively endanger their children's lives with their hubris is absolutely the answer. If you don't like it, don't take on the monumental responsibility of having kids. Raising children is a privilege, not a right. If you're too selfish or stupid to vaccinate, you're not fit to parent anyway.
Government intervention is not excessive when it literally prevents children from fucking dying at the hands of selfish idiot parents. "Freedom" doesn't mean you have an inalienable right to be a shitty parent who kills your kids with misinformed idiocy.
How about when it doesn't prevent anyone from dying, or when the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine is dubious? Don't you think that the standard of proof should be pretty high when forcing vaccination?
Child abuse and neglect are obviously wrong, but the government's presumption that they know what is best for children is also wrong. Children have rights, but they do not belong to the government. We need safeguards from intrusion. It is dangerous to presume goodwill on the part of the government, and it is clear some are preoccupied with dictating how others parent. From circumcision to giving your teen condoms, there are many issues that divide conscientious parents. It is wrong to presume that every parent who declines a vaccine on behalf of their child is abusive, ignorant, or misinformed. I hope the pro-science sentiment on this message board would embrace an open debate, and reject absolutist positions and insults designed to silence opposition.
Your statistics are flat out wrong, hard measles (not German measles) kills 3 out of 90k The biggest part of this stupidity is people mixing in the statistics of German measles. keep these two completely different virus's separate please.
Actually HPV is not a risk at all until a girl becomes sexually active. Almost zero. Since vaccination related risks are far higher than that and become reduced as the person becomes older, how is adding risk where there is none a good thing again? Looking at statistics, the risk for a girl with an average sex partner ratio is actually equal to the risk of vaccination induced injury..... HPV is good for girls of lets just call it an exaggerated sex life......
A windowless van down by the river...
Well, I'm sure Roald Dahl would have found your assurances a comfort.
Now try some facts
When I hear ignorant people say bad things about vaccines, I think of my grandmother, who lost her 4-yr-old firstborn son and 2-month-old twin daughters in the same week during a diphtheria epidemic in 1906. She also lost a 6-yr-old son and 1-yr-old daughter in the same week during the Spanish Flu epidemic in 1919. Later that same year, her 4-yr-old daughter (my mother) almost died during a Scarlet Fever epidemic. Some people believe the risks of vaccines are too high, but the risks of no vaccines are much higher.
Why is measles still around? We got rid of small pox so well that the kids don't have to get that vaccine any more. They don't get polio vaccine any more either. That only took 30 years to eradicate. Why is measles so persistent?
There is an important distinction between thinking a vaccine is a good idea and thinking it should be legally mandated. This is often lost in the discussion, as people who oppose the mandating of vaccines are commonly confused with people who think vaccines are necessarily bad. It is not anti-science to oppose excessive government intervention. It is anti-science to lump all vaccines together as either all-good or all-bad.
Good to know it is only a suggestion.
Then you must be chronically depressed.
The helmet law has been done away with in Pennsylvania, yet most people on motorbikes still wear them. When an idea is a good one, it doesn't need to be forced.
Get your daughters vaccinated for HPV. Gardasil is safe. The fear-mongering about it is largely baseless and cervical cancer is nothing to fuck around with.
Bullshit. Measles kills 1 in every 1000 children that is infected. 1 in 1000 will develop encephalitis, which can cause deafness and learning disabilities. It also causes pneumonia, the leading cause of death from measles, in 5% of all pediatric cases. 10% of children will suffer ear infections that can cause permanent hearing impairment. Those things aren't fucking nuisances, moron!
No, the vaccine isn't 100%, no vaccine is. But it is 97% when properly dosed. That means that when 100 properly vaccinated children are exposed, only 3 are at risk of infection. When 100 unvaccinated children are exposed, 100 are at risk. That's a pretty big difference. Plus, when vaccinated children become infected, they have less complications than unvaccinated children who become infected. The only reason more vaccinated people were infected in the Disneyland outbreak is because there are so many more vaccinated people than unvaccinated. If the unvaccinated population was significantly higher, the infection rate would've been astronomical with dozens of pediatric deaths.
Taking away "choice" from arrogant, ignorant fuckwits who actively endanger their children's lives with their hubris is absolutely the answer. If you don't like it, don't take on the monumental responsibility of having kids. Raising children is a privilege, not a right. If you're too selfish or stupid to vaccinate, you're not fit to parent anyway.
Government intervention is not excessive when it literally prevents children from fucking dying at the hands of selfish idiot parents. "Freedom" doesn't mean you have an inalienable right to be a shitty parent who kills your kids with misinformed idiocy.
How about when it doesn't prevent anyone from dying, or when the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine is dubious? Don't you think that the standard of proof should be pretty high when forcing vaccination?
Child abuse and neglect are obviously wrong, but the government's presumption that they know what is best for children is also wrong. Children have rights, but they do not belong to the government. We need safeguards from intrusion. It is dangerous to presume goodwill on the part of the government, and it is clear some are preoccupied with dictating how others parent. From circumcision to giving your teen condoms, there are many issues that divide conscientious parents. It is wrong to presume that every parent who declines a vaccine on behalf of their child is abusive, ignorant, or misinformed. I hope the pro-science sentiment on this message board would embrace an open debate, and reject absolutist positions and insults designed to silence opposition.
Do you support mandatory HPV vaccine?
Your statistics are flat out wrong, hard measles (not German measles) kills 3 out of 90k The biggest part of this stupidity is people mixing in the statistics of German measles. keep these two completely different virus's separate please.
Actually HPV is not a risk at all until a girl becomes sexually active. Almost zero. Since vaccination related risks are far higher than that and become reduced as the person becomes older, how is adding risk where there is none a good thing again? Looking at statistics, the risk for a girl with an average sex partner ratio is actually equal to the risk of vaccination induced injury..... HPV is good for girls of lets just call it an exaggerated sex life......