See, I did not read it as bad temper. And, my gay daughter and several of her friends - who are incredibly diverse gender and orientation wise - did not see it that way. This, of course, is totally normal. Just being a 'member' of any so-called group does not mean that one agrees with everyone else in said group.
ETA: daughter is 30, son is 27. He thinks her gender politics (though he is straight) are old fashioned. She and her soon to be wife are gobsmacked. I think we forget how fast all this is moving, praise the Goddess.
At any rate, none of them thought Joe's response to her baiting was nasty or angry. Mostly they thought the whole exchange was lame. And this is ok. Not everyone responds to a two minute thing in the same way. Well, except for some Repubs.
I quit blogging at my old home, TPM, over the Orange Goons election and bailed altogether for over 6 months I think. I lost a lot of hope and was dejected.I had to move on and get new perspective and had only been to Wonkette occasionally before I made it my first stop nowadays.
I don't want a Democrat to win to own the damned Republicans like they are all about. I want the nation to heal and for everyone to be taken care as a part of the nation.We have to end the corporate greed and raid of everything and prioritize life and our futures. This will only happen in a Democratic Admin.
Our only hope on that front is to inoculate ourselves from the sort of BS scandalmongering they used last time. It only worked then because enough of our coalition was easily led into believing Hillary was beyond crooked, and that she was going to win anyway so they didn't have to suck it up and vote for her. This time around we (hopefully) are smarter. Though watching the Left pounce on Joe not just for the fair criticisms but for some of the BS scandals makes me wonder if we are worthy of winning.
Well also in a way so long as we win, it won't matter too much--any of the candidates is going to not do the truly horrible things TRump is doing, and will push reforms in the right direction. How far they go depends more on whether we can take the Senate. But Biden and Warren are likely to get the same result in health care, regardless of what plan they favor now.
There was some of that, at the margins, but a lot just didn't show up. I think one key factor which won't be present this time was the assumption that Trump couldn't win, which the media took for granted.
Yup--we have to look outside our cocoon from time to time. To hear the Twitterverse you'd expect Biden to be polling somewhere at Hickenlooper levels, but he's not only in the lead, he's in the lead among black Democrats. And it's foolish to write that off as "well, those black Democrats don't know what's good for them, or they only like Joe because they aren't following the race close enough to know any other candidates." It's also quite possible that they like his style, or are comfortable with him, or maybe are more moderate than the Twitterverse knows.
Yep--that dominates my feelings on this race. Win, period. Also, I know that any of these candidates will face the same constraints in Congress, so it's not like any of these plans will become law in the same form they campaign on (remember, in 2008 Obama ran against the individual mandate in the primary--it all changes when you have to shepherd it through Congress).
Oh, and look what just wandered into my feed: https://www.advocate.com/el...
See, I did not read it as bad temper. And, my gay daughter and several of her friends - who are incredibly diverse gender and orientation wise - did not see it that way. This, of course, is totally normal. Just being a 'member' of any so-called group does not mean that one agrees with everyone else in said group.
ETA: daughter is 30, son is 27. He thinks her gender politics (though he is straight) are old fashioned. She and her soon to be wife are gobsmacked. I think we forget how fast all this is moving, praise the Goddess.
At any rate, none of them thought Joe's response to her baiting was nasty or angry. Mostly they thought the whole exchange was lame. And this is ok. Not everyone responds to a two minute thing in the same way. Well, except for some Repubs.
See, I saw it as her taking a shot at him and him taking a kind of jokey, if lame, shot back at her.
I know, I hear Iowa I think corndog and compromising pics.
I quit blogging at my old home, TPM, over the Orange Goons election and bailed altogether for over 6 months I think. I lost a lot of hope and was dejected.I had to move on and get new perspective and had only been to Wonkette occasionally before I made it my first stop nowadays.
I don't want a Democrat to win to own the damned Republicans like they are all about. I want the nation to heal and for everyone to be taken care as a part of the nation.We have to end the corporate greed and raid of everything and prioritize life and our futures. This will only happen in a Democratic Admin.
Totally!" LOOK at ME! Aren't I clever. "I despise cheap shots, at anyone. Try harder at being accurate. And you have the best 'nym ever!
It still hurts when I think about what might have been. And the abomination that we got instead.
Better. Than. Trump.
Apparently the black Democrats who support Biden by a wide margin aren't "woke" enough.
Our only hope on that front is to inoculate ourselves from the sort of BS scandalmongering they used last time. It only worked then because enough of our coalition was easily led into believing Hillary was beyond crooked, and that she was going to win anyway so they didn't have to suck it up and vote for her. This time around we (hopefully) are smarter. Though watching the Left pounce on Joe not just for the fair criticisms but for some of the BS scandals makes me wonder if we are worthy of winning.
Well also in a way so long as we win, it won't matter too much--any of the candidates is going to not do the truly horrible things TRump is doing, and will push reforms in the right direction. How far they go depends more on whether we can take the Senate. But Biden and Warren are likely to get the same result in health care, regardless of what plan they favor now.
There was some of that, at the margins, but a lot just didn't show up. I think one key factor which won't be present this time was the assumption that Trump couldn't win, which the media took for granted.
I think there's something to that. Though I hope this time around at least our side is coming up with ways to get the reluctant voters to show up.
Yup--we have to look outside our cocoon from time to time. To hear the Twitterverse you'd expect Biden to be polling somewhere at Hickenlooper levels, but he's not only in the lead, he's in the lead among black Democrats. And it's foolish to write that off as "well, those black Democrats don't know what's good for them, or they only like Joe because they aren't following the race close enough to know any other candidates." It's also quite possible that they like his style, or are comfortable with him, or maybe are more moderate than the Twitterverse knows.
Yep--that dominates my feelings on this race. Win, period. Also, I know that any of these candidates will face the same constraints in Congress, so it's not like any of these plans will become law in the same form they campaign on (remember, in 2008 Obama ran against the individual mandate in the primary--it all changes when you have to shepherd it through Congress).
Agreed--the candidates need to keep one eye on the general electorate, and make sure not to box themselves in.