Without the entire page it's hard to tell, but just writing "(probably not appropriate)" after the note about showering together doesn't mean anything untoward actually happened, just that from a more modern perspective it might not seem like good judgement.
Unfortunately, it seems like kids/people sharing showers and baths was some sort of bohemian trend in the 1970s and 80s. There are pictures of me and some neighbor kid together in a bathtub when I'm a toddler and he's probably like 6. For some reason my mom thought these belonged in my baby book. "Probably not appropriate." Ya think?
Who knows what these parents were thinking at the time.
Classy people, that Mama and Papa. As for Projectus Falsus, they deserve whatever they get, including their miserable daily existence trying to gotcha people.
I guess we would know by now if she had rolled on Cap'n Double-Ender and his crew of weeping dick sores since it would have been part of her sentencing report. I was hoping that was why she got such a lenient sentence.
"As for Harris, a month in jail might seem lenient. But she may be back in the pokey soon — prosecutors say she also recently got a DUI at 2 p.m. on a Monday. They also report that her kids haven’t been to school in three weeks, which is sad and we don’t like it. "
Let me guess...she hasn't sent her kids to school because of all that "liberal indoctrination" and the CRT's?
I lived in FL for a couple years when it was far more purple, when Charlie Crist was about to become governor. I still have relatives there, my wife’s aunt who is a rabid liberal, and my mother’s cousin, who I used to work for. But he’s formerly a wealthy businessman who is intelligent but spouts wingnut nonsense, like the old “Lincoln was a Republican, so all Republicans are therefore respectable people.” I never bothered to explain how party values changed over 250 years.
“As a younger woman, she had played in the Palm Beach social scene and dated heirs to old fortunes, but she ran into personal trouble after the births of her two children and an ugly paternity-and-custody battle with their father. Between 2019 and 2020, Harris moved from one unstable living situation to another. In June 2020, a former boyfriend offered to let her stay at his place, a stucco house with a pool in Delray Beach."
> I don't see the relevance of the first sentence. It's not something you'd normally read about a male offender. And that description of the house also serves no purpose beyond meeting word count quota. Maybe that's just how New York Magazine is written, idk.
"As much as the Trump campaign might have wanted to, though, they did not call the FBI. And on that very same day, the 'different way' happened to ring up Papa’s phone, and it was James O’Keefe!"
>this is how Trump operates. Surely someone's looked into any phone calls from the campaign to "Different Way" O'Keefe on that day.
"though the boys have been crying “First Amendment” and “journalism” and “we didn’t know it was stolen!"
How about this...If someone tries to sell you SOMEONE ELSE'S FUCKING DIARY WHO IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE, then assume it is stolen and you can't pretend you didn't know...
I read in the NYT, the details of how she stiffed the court a dozen times. Only rich people have the option of getting away with that, on top of committing a felony, and only get 30 days. I do hope that the "convicted felon" tag will follow her around forever afterwards.
O.J. actually went to prison during his first trial. Second it was an incredible set of circumstances that allowed him to beat the verdict. He would've gotten popped if Mark Fuhrmann weren't a racist, that's my estimation. Even if Johnnie Cochran's lawyering was still god-tier.
It's a real indictment of our justice system...They can't pretend the system isn't rigged anymore...the past 4 years have 100% verified that it is...You don't have to know HOW the law works to know when its broken and unjust... They need to address this and they need to do so publicly...Like a kind of SOTU address that at least ACKNOWLEDGES that it gives deference to wealthy white men...Even if it didn't CHANGE anything, just admitting it would be nice
My message to the justice system overall is: We can see you...You're not fooling us...
not from SCOTUS that's for sure...I was thinking from whoever Biden replaces Garland with...I swear to Christ if Smokin' Joe appoints another fucking republican...errrrrggggg
I think those of us who know Elie Mystal or Glenn Kirschner NEEDS to be in that seat would settle for Sally Yates
I do think you're right that it's good to keep tabs ... the Chief of Staff who replaced Ron Klain is a quiet corporate type and nobody knows a lot about him but those are the ones you always have to watch
I think also what I was referring to, though, is the process of how a lawsuit *progresses* through the judicial system. I was listening to a presentation from Kristen Clarke this morning, the current AAG for Civil Rights, and she was on the original team that litigated Shelby County v Holder at the federal level BEFORE it ended up in front of John Roberts where he had the opportunity to delivery that historic, sneakily destructive "this country doesn't have racism anymore HAHAHA" ruling.
What that means is that she WON, that the right to bring suit under Section 5 of the VRA had been PRESERVED throughout federal litigation ... until the racists who wanted to discriminate through the voter suppression laws we see now that those federal preclearance provisions had been removed KEPT APPEALING *UNTIL* they got in front of a majority of racists whom they knew would rule in their favor in an underhanded, quiet way that only the people would catch who were paying incredibly close attention to what the long-term impact would be.
That's why it matters who it is who gets to wield power in the court system all the way up and down the line.
Ta, Marcie. I'm disgusted that the thief got only 30 days, and because I'm both human and humane, I feel sorry for her kids.
12 months would not have been enough but it would have sent a stronger message.
Has anyone called CPS?
Just a reminder: Ashley Biden has never confirmed the showering claim.
Without the entire page it's hard to tell, but just writing "(probably not appropriate)" after the note about showering together doesn't mean anything untoward actually happened, just that from a more modern perspective it might not seem like good judgement.
Unfortunately, it seems like kids/people sharing showers and baths was some sort of bohemian trend in the 1970s and 80s. There are pictures of me and some neighbor kid together in a bathtub when I'm a toddler and he's probably like 6. For some reason my mom thought these belonged in my baby book. "Probably not appropriate." Ya think?
Who knows what these parents were thinking at the time.
“…person who discovered”
Stole. The word is STOLE.
Classy people, that Mama and Papa. As for Projectus Falsus, they deserve whatever they get, including their miserable daily existence trying to gotcha people.
I guess we would know by now if she had rolled on Cap'n Double-Ender and his crew of weeping dick sores since it would have been part of her sentencing report. I was hoping that was why she got such a lenient sentence.
"As for Harris, a month in jail might seem lenient. But she may be back in the pokey soon — prosecutors say she also recently got a DUI at 2 p.m. on a Monday. They also report that her kids haven’t been to school in three weeks, which is sad and we don’t like it. "
Let me guess...she hasn't sent her kids to school because of all that "liberal indoctrination" and the CRT's?
I feel bad for her kids, and hope there is a path for them to a better future.
Probably one that includes writing in a diary about how awful and neglectful their mother is.... to be stolen at some date in the future
In the Banana Republic of Florida? Not likely.
Well, they are a little past the uterine stage, so...
I lived in FL for a couple years when it was far more purple, when Charlie Crist was about to become governor. I still have relatives there, my wife’s aunt who is a rabid liberal, and my mother’s cousin, who I used to work for. But he’s formerly a wealthy businessman who is intelligent but spouts wingnut nonsense, like the old “Lincoln was a Republican, so all Republicans are therefore respectable people.” I never bothered to explain how party values changed over 250 years.
She really has that pronounced case of Racist White Girl Angry Jaw
“As a younger woman, she had played in the Palm Beach social scene and dated heirs to old fortunes, but she ran into personal trouble after the births of her two children and an ugly paternity-and-custody battle with their father. Between 2019 and 2020, Harris moved from one unstable living situation to another. In June 2020, a former boyfriend offered to let her stay at his place, a stucco house with a pool in Delray Beach."
> I don't see the relevance of the first sentence. It's not something you'd normally read about a male offender. And that description of the house also serves no purpose beyond meeting word count quota. Maybe that's just how New York Magazine is written, idk.
A male offender like Brad Parscale? Or is it just nutty right-wingers from Florida we're supposed to pretend aren't basket cases, through and through?
"As much as the Trump campaign might have wanted to, though, they did not call the FBI. And on that very same day, the 'different way' happened to ring up Papa’s phone, and it was James O’Keefe!"
>this is how Trump operates. Surely someone's looked into any phone calls from the campaign to "Different Way" O'Keefe on that day.
Where is the Anvil of Justice when you need it?
"....But Harris, who’d delayed her sentencing an impressive 11 times with all sorts of excuses..."
The crime here is that she was ALLOWED to delay her sentencing ELEVEN FUCKING TIMES
Dear justice system...Quit fucking doing that...Maybe just MAYBE you can grant a delay THREE times...But ELEVEN? JFC
"though the boys have been crying “First Amendment” and “journalism” and “we didn’t know it was stolen!"
How about this...If someone tries to sell you SOMEONE ELSE'S FUCKING DIARY WHO IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE, then assume it is stolen and you can't pretend you didn't know...
Yet O'Keefe still walks among free men...How is BUYING known stolen 'goods' any different than stealing them? seriously...Any ideas?
It ... has a separate statute ...?
Like - "receiving stolen goods" is different from "theft".
I hear you, though
They’re usually in the same *section* of the criminal statute, too
No explanation. Buying stolen goods is in fact its own crime pretty much everywhere.
that was my understanding...So I at least got that part right
Which still begs the question....
O'Keefe probably has "the complexion for the protection."
I read in the NYT, the details of how she stiffed the court a dozen times. Only rich people have the option of getting away with that, on top of committing a felony, and only get 30 days. I do hope that the "convicted felon" tag will follow her around forever afterwards.
"Only rich people have the option of getting away with that, on top of committing a felony, and only get 30 days. "
Rich WHITE people.
O.J. on line one for you.
O.J. actually went to prison during his first trial. Second it was an incredible set of circumstances that allowed him to beat the verdict. He would've gotten popped if Mark Fuhrmann weren't a racist, that's my estimation. Even if Johnnie Cochran's lawyering was still god-tier.
I think if you go through the judicial history of the United States you'll eventually come to the conclusion that the exception proves the rule
Except, of course, if you are determined not to see it
:-/
It's a real indictment of our justice system...They can't pretend the system isn't rigged anymore...the past 4 years have 100% verified that it is...You don't have to know HOW the law works to know when its broken and unjust... They need to address this and they need to do so publicly...Like a kind of SOTU address that at least ACKNOWLEDGES that it gives deference to wealthy white men...Even if it didn't CHANGE anything, just admitting it would be nice
My message to the justice system overall is: We can see you...You're not fooling us...
"You don't have to know HOW the law works to know when its broken and unjust... They need to address this and they need to do so publicly.."
*snort*
You've seen the SCOTUS majority, right ...?
not from SCOTUS that's for sure...I was thinking from whoever Biden replaces Garland with...I swear to Christ if Smokin' Joe appoints another fucking republican...errrrrggggg
I think those of us who know Elie Mystal or Glenn Kirschner NEEDS to be in that seat would settle for Sally Yates
I do think you're right that it's good to keep tabs ... the Chief of Staff who replaced Ron Klain is a quiet corporate type and nobody knows a lot about him but those are the ones you always have to watch
I think also what I was referring to, though, is the process of how a lawsuit *progresses* through the judicial system. I was listening to a presentation from Kristen Clarke this morning, the current AAG for Civil Rights, and she was on the original team that litigated Shelby County v Holder at the federal level BEFORE it ended up in front of John Roberts where he had the opportunity to delivery that historic, sneakily destructive "this country doesn't have racism anymore HAHAHA" ruling.
What that means is that she WON, that the right to bring suit under Section 5 of the VRA had been PRESERVED throughout federal litigation ... until the racists who wanted to discriminate through the voter suppression laws we see now that those federal preclearance provisions had been removed KEPT APPEALING *UNTIL* they got in front of a majority of racists whom they knew would rule in their favor in an underhanded, quiet way that only the people would catch who were paying incredibly close attention to what the long-term impact would be.
That's why it matters who it is who gets to wield power in the court system all the way up and down the line.
That scans....thanks
Oh, and LOVE Kirschner!!!! He is an EXCELLENT 'explainer' of all the legal stuff...A real asset and solid citizen