"Boy those conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care. No daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare. Nothing. If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked. Conservatives don't give a shit about you until you reach 'military age'. Then they think you are just fine. Just what they've been looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life, pro-life, these people aren't pro-life, they are killing doctors! What kind of pro-life is that? What? They will do anything they can to save the fetus, but if it grows up to be a doctor, they just might have to kill it. They're not pro-life. You know what they are? They are anti-woman. Simple as it gets, they are anti-woman. They don't like them. They don't like women. They believe that a woman's primary role is to serve as a brood mare for the state." -- The Late, Great George Carlin
My mother had a miscarriage that - well, you know how when you empty the mop bucket into the toilet, it makes the toilet flush? - it was like that. So, she could have been charged for unlawfully disposing of a body.
I had a miscarriage at ten weeks. We carved a little marker in a stone, and buried it with the fetus in the back yard. I could have been charged for unlawfully disposing of a body.
But neither of us were, because we lived in a time and in a place that was not insane.
I have an acquaintance, a woman who worked for many years in a fake pregnancy crisis "clinic". A former nun, she is a remarkably pleasant person. She is also, in my judgment, the most evil person I know. She lives in Idaho.
I have an acquaintance who is anti abortion. She's a district nurse. When she was moved (something of a promotion) from the vaccination clinic to the pregnancy and childcare clinic, part of her job would have been counselling those who wanted an abortion (which is fully legal here). Since she did not feel that she could in good conscience help people get an abortion, she did not take the job, which hurt her career.
I don't agree with her stance on abortion, but I support entirely her choice there. You don't put yourself in the position of offering people resources, unless you actually offer them.
Back in the day when I was editor/sole writer for a central MN weekly newspaper, one of the churchy guys in town (who also insisted on homeschooling their kids, which hilariously left them woefully unprepared for college—but that's a whole 'nother story) came to me to do a feature article on the "pregnancy crisis center" he was opening in the nearby, bigger town of Brainerd. He described it as a place where pregnant women and "girls" could go if they were trying to decide what to do, whether it be keeping the baby, abortion, or adoption, offering them resources for any choice they make.
We had a sit-down interview and, literally five minutes in, I deduced *exactly* what the place was and what their agenda was—as well as knowing that there would be no "resources" offered if someone chose abortion. This was in the '90s, and "pregnancy crisis centers" weren't yet as well-known as the bullshit they are now. I let him ramble about God and the evils of abortion for awhile, told him I had everything I needed for the article, sent him on his way, and threw away any notes I'd made; I had no intention whatsoever of doing any kind of "article" about it.
He eventually came back to our office to ask when the article was going to run and our advertising editor (also extremely pro-choice) and I told him that something like that would require a paid ad, not an article that was disguised as advertising. He came back about two weeks later with enough money he'd collected from his weird congregation to place a half-page ad. Plus, he was an evil asshole, too.
"As of last week, abortion is once again banned in the state of Missouri, albeit temporarily. Because, incredibly enough, when you vote for left-wing policies and right-wing politicians, you still get the right-wing policies."
I don't know who to be more pissed at; the politicians who overrode our vote or my fellow Missourians who voted for these assholes in the first place. Idiots. Frog, meet scorpion.
I am horrified by the information in this post. I had a vision that we are returning to primitive times as I read it. I was born into a burgeoning modern society and I shall die in a post-modern hell hole, brought to us not by a natural disaster, but by a totally man made disaster.
All this bullshit just makes it very clear that this is a VERY misogynistic country--and apparently always has been. How I despise MAGAt men, those two-faced, double-standard, hypocritical ASSHOLES. GRRRRRRRR.
How can it be legal to force a woman to turn herself in over a miscarriage? Most pregnant women want to carry their pregnancy to term. This bureaucracy layered on top of tragedy is horrible.
What if you have a miscarriage before you even know you are pregnant??? How can you report a clot ?(sorry guys) and what are you supposed to do with a tiny knot of cells, that at even 9 weeks, isn't even quite as big as grape, or an olive--carry it around in a tiny box? Honestly.
Exactly. I think women should save their used menstruation products and send them to these politicians. Women can ask to have the products analyzed to determine whether it's menstrual blood or a potential miscarriage. I realize the thought is gross, but these politicians are gross.
Here's a nice dystopian thought: in the not-too-distant future, women will be REQUIRED to send in mentrual blood (maybe a urine sample, too) every month so they'll know who's pregnant and who's not.
Back around 2010, after we raised the minimum wage in WA by initiative, I was delighted to learn that employers in border towns like Couer d'Alene and Moscow were offering higher wages so they could get employees with a clue. It warmed the cockles of my socialist heart.
“As the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, I am committed to conducting a review of mifepristone and working with the professional career scientists at the Agency who review this data.”
You know he is lying because they fired all the professional career scientist at the Agency.
Not really a problem. Sue the asses off the Doctors, Hospital, and any Corporate involvement. Interesting to see how the Catholic, Fascist criminals on the Roberts SCOTUS play with the Doctors Hippocratic Oath to do everything to save the patients life and a law from a gang of Christian pedophiles requiring criminal negligence causing death.
Except they'd need the permission of their male husbands or boyfriends and probably every male on the planet who wants to mate with them in the future.
I'm anticipating a big flood of R politicians joining the Wahabi sect of Islam when they learn all about hijabs and chaperones and other ways of controlling women. It will be a flood, just like when sex pest priest McCloskey lured in Newt Gingrich and some others. I don't know who recruited J D Vance, but I'd assume some Opus Dei operative. I'm very much hoping for Dorothy Day to be elevated to sainthood.
Dannenfelser's X site makes her out to be an avenging angel or Christian crusader. She's a murderer. Period.
😡why would anyone want to get pregnant ?!
"Boy those conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care. No daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare. Nothing. If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked. Conservatives don't give a shit about you until you reach 'military age'. Then they think you are just fine. Just what they've been looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life, pro-life, these people aren't pro-life, they are killing doctors! What kind of pro-life is that? What? They will do anything they can to save the fetus, but if it grows up to be a doctor, they just might have to kill it. They're not pro-life. You know what they are? They are anti-woman. Simple as it gets, they are anti-woman. They don't like them. They don't like women. They believe that a woman's primary role is to serve as a brood mare for the state." -- The Late, Great George Carlin
My mother had a miscarriage that - well, you know how when you empty the mop bucket into the toilet, it makes the toilet flush? - it was like that. So, she could have been charged for unlawfully disposing of a body.
I had a miscarriage at ten weeks. We carved a little marker in a stone, and buried it with the fetus in the back yard. I could have been charged for unlawfully disposing of a body.
But neither of us were, because we lived in a time and in a place that was not insane.
I have an acquaintance, a woman who worked for many years in a fake pregnancy crisis "clinic". A former nun, she is a remarkably pleasant person. She is also, in my judgment, the most evil person I know. She lives in Idaho.
I have an acquaintance who is anti abortion. She's a district nurse. When she was moved (something of a promotion) from the vaccination clinic to the pregnancy and childcare clinic, part of her job would have been counselling those who wanted an abortion (which is fully legal here). Since she did not feel that she could in good conscience help people get an abortion, she did not take the job, which hurt her career.
I don't agree with her stance on abortion, but I support entirely her choice there. You don't put yourself in the position of offering people resources, unless you actually offer them.
Back in the day when I was editor/sole writer for a central MN weekly newspaper, one of the churchy guys in town (who also insisted on homeschooling their kids, which hilariously left them woefully unprepared for college—but that's a whole 'nother story) came to me to do a feature article on the "pregnancy crisis center" he was opening in the nearby, bigger town of Brainerd. He described it as a place where pregnant women and "girls" could go if they were trying to decide what to do, whether it be keeping the baby, abortion, or adoption, offering them resources for any choice they make.
We had a sit-down interview and, literally five minutes in, I deduced *exactly* what the place was and what their agenda was—as well as knowing that there would be no "resources" offered if someone chose abortion. This was in the '90s, and "pregnancy crisis centers" weren't yet as well-known as the bullshit they are now. I let him ramble about God and the evils of abortion for awhile, told him I had everything I needed for the article, sent him on his way, and threw away any notes I'd made; I had no intention whatsoever of doing any kind of "article" about it.
He eventually came back to our office to ask when the article was going to run and our advertising editor (also extremely pro-choice) and I told him that something like that would require a paid ad, not an article that was disguised as advertising. He came back about two weeks later with enough money he'd collected from his weird congregation to place a half-page ad. Plus, he was an evil asshole, too.
"As of last week, abortion is once again banned in the state of Missouri, albeit temporarily. Because, incredibly enough, when you vote for left-wing policies and right-wing politicians, you still get the right-wing policies."
I don't know who to be more pissed at; the politicians who overrode our vote or my fellow Missourians who voted for these assholes in the first place. Idiots. Frog, meet scorpion.
At least weed is legal in "Misery."
I am horrified by the information in this post. I had a vision that we are returning to primitive times as I read it. I was born into a burgeoning modern society and I shall die in a post-modern hell hole, brought to us not by a natural disaster, but by a totally man made disaster.
Ta, Robyn. Never before have I been so grateful to be a crone.
All this bullshit just makes it very clear that this is a VERY misogynistic country--and apparently always has been. How I despise MAGAt men, those two-faced, double-standard, hypocritical ASSHOLES. GRRRRRRRR.
I’m starting to think that to do real damage, you need public apathy
How can it be legal to force a woman to turn herself in over a miscarriage? Most pregnant women want to carry their pregnancy to term. This bureaucracy layered on top of tragedy is horrible.
What if you have a miscarriage before you even know you are pregnant??? How can you report a clot ?(sorry guys) and what are you supposed to do with a tiny knot of cells, that at even 9 weeks, isn't even quite as big as grape, or an olive--carry it around in a tiny box? Honestly.
Exactly. I think women should save their used menstruation products and send them to these politicians. Women can ask to have the products analyzed to determine whether it's menstrual blood or a potential miscarriage. I realize the thought is gross, but these politicians are gross.
Here's a nice dystopian thought: in the not-too-distant future, women will be REQUIRED to send in mentrual blood (maybe a urine sample, too) every month so they'll know who's pregnant and who's not.
Unfortunately, I think this is a distinct possibility. It's an extension of school menstruation tracking programs.
Wait, they have school menstruation tracking programs? Where? Are these mandatory? How do they work?
Sorry to be so shocked and naive, but god DAMN.
Here are a couple of articles. Apparently this is a real thing in red states.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/29/clack-middle-school-menstrual-cycle/75915533007/
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/09/1155731808/plan-to-collect-menstrual-data-on-high-school-athletes-in-florida-is-voted-down
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-desantis-florida-sports-female-athletes-160560972802
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/missouri-health-director-tracked-menstrual-periods-planned-parenthood-patients-n1073701
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/06/14/missouri-schools-menstrual-cycle/
A tiny bright spot.
WA has a state law that is much like the federal law. We voted for it.
So, every hospital has to treat a woman who is/had an abortion. Period. None of the dying in the parking lot shit.
People from Idaho are welcome here if they need abortion services, emergency or not. It's a short drive.
Back around 2010, after we raised the minimum wage in WA by initiative, I was delighted to learn that employers in border towns like Couer d'Alene and Moscow were offering higher wages so they could get employees with a clue. It warmed the cockles of my socialist heart.
“As the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, I am committed to conducting a review of mifepristone and working with the professional career scientists at the Agency who review this data.”
You know he is lying because they fired all the professional career scientist at the Agency.
He's only showing an interest because he misread it as "Milfpristone".
Not really a problem. Sue the asses off the Doctors, Hospital, and any Corporate involvement. Interesting to see how the Catholic, Fascist criminals on the Roberts SCOTUS play with the Doctors Hippocratic Oath to do everything to save the patients life and a law from a gang of Christian pedophiles requiring criminal negligence causing death.
How do they handle this in Catholic med schools? Do they have the Hypocritic Oath?
Tubal ligations for all females! That's much safer than this system they're pushing!
Except they'd need the permission of their male husbands or boyfriends and probably every male on the planet who wants to mate with them in the future.
I'm anticipating a big flood of R politicians joining the Wahabi sect of Islam when they learn all about hijabs and chaperones and other ways of controlling women. It will be a flood, just like when sex pest priest McCloskey lured in Newt Gingrich and some others. I don't know who recruited J D Vance, but I'd assume some Opus Dei operative. I'm very much hoping for Dorothy Day to be elevated to sainthood.
“Call your doctor. Call law enforcement, or 911, and just say, ‘I miscarried. I want you to know,'” advised Truman.
Right, because the police need to be called for a miscarriage at 7 weeks.
Great use of 911 resources although it would give them less men to issue no knock warrants to the wrong apartment.
Perhaps we should all call to describe the mess on our hands and insist (male) officers come over to inspect the “remains.”