I respect her for pausing to give an answer that wasn’t canned. Her delivery was a little off but that’s fine. The MAGAts are spinning but that means she is under their skin. Good for her
Ocasio-Cortez is the most brilliant politician of her generation. But the mainstream press did not invent or anoint her, so they must tear her down at every opportunity. Schools of feeder fish exhibit more independent thought; remember when the Times and WaPo took Susie Wiles's direction and all of them, all at once, "noticed" Ron DeSantis was not exactly Reaganesque?
Yeah, DC bureau reporters and editors: this is on you. And we know your names.
Yeah, Republicans are big on eloquence. Just look back. President Dementia, reading cue cards of folksy inanities and pretending he couldn't hear questions. Bush the Dumber, mumbling stupidities (UNLESS he was talking about something he cared about: baseball). Donald J. Trump, whose entire brand is repeating himself spewing ignorant slop.
Minor correction: Manfred Weber is a member of CDU, which belongs to the "European People's Party" faction in the EU parliament. This faction collects the conservative, yet not-that-far-right parties in the European parliament, it is quite distinct from the way more radical far right parties in the Patriots group and the European Conservatives and Reformist (=Eu sceptics) group.
Fun fact: Germany's far right AfD was too radical for the likes of Le Pen's merry band of nazis or Georgia Meloni's Neo-Fascists, so they had to form their own bloc with the other real nutjobs.
I am well-read and well-educated, but I sort-of, vaguely thought that all of South America was south of the equator. Because of the word "south." And because it is definitely a ways south of the US. Now that I have heard the correction, I will remember it, but it's not very important.
Ta, Marcie. The NY Post blamed Mayor Mamdani for the fucking weather. WaPo and NYT were bleeding subscribers before all this. Democracies do die in darkness, especially when bozos like Bezos fire all their good reporters. Their salaries wouldn't put a dent in Bezos's wealth if they were increased a thousandfold.
"He insisted that technology was important to beat China in trade, yet had nothing to say after AOC rattled off some of the ways Trump [sic] has actually set us back by gutting scientific research of all kinds."
And in the time honored tradition of piling-on Whitaker also failed to note that the Fulvous Fuckwad is making things sooooo much more difficult for China by allowing Nvidia to sell its second most powerful chip there (for a 25% taste of the action):
> "The US government has given chip giant Nvidia the green light to sell its advanced artificial intelligence (AI) processors in China, the Department of Commerce said on Tuesday.
The H200, Nvidia's second-most-advanced semiconductor, had been restricted by Washington over concerns that it would give China's technology industry and military an edge over the US.
The Slimes is a fascist rag... and always has been. It's just them doing their damnedest to torpedo AOC's chances at a nod for national office. Meanwhile Trump, Musk, and RFK always stutter and stumble to say straight answers
Being one of the most impatient people on the planet, I do notice when people speak using a lot of filler words and sounds. I have noticed this about Ms. O-C. I think no less of her and her ideas, but I feel those speech patterns do nothing good for ones' credibility. Having said this, the MSM sucks balls sideways.
I wish HRC had handlers for adjusting her "persona". The head-thrown-back open-mouthed laughing was off-putting. Curb appeal matters, albeit mostly for women. She should have taken rump more seriously, and also campaigned where she didn't. Water under the bridge.
Did any of those assholes who are sneering at AOC bother to say what 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 think the U.S. should do if China invades Taiwan?
She sounded like someone struggling with an incredibly touchy foreign-policy question and trying to frame the answer while not crossing any lines or setting off any alarms.
FWIW, I think "strategic ambiguity" will work fine until it doesn't. And when that day comes, we should meet force with force.
Easy for me to say, of course. I'm neither a decision-maker nor a soldier. But we all see how well appeasing Russia over Ukraine (and make no mistake, that's what Trump is doing) is going along. You can't just let dictators do whatever they want.
I also wonder how many of them knew that Venezuela is not south of the equator. It is not a subject that comes up often. And Venezuela is pretty close to the equator. I think it's just a rounding error.
No, AOC's answer to the Taiwan question was not perfectly fine. Given everything, she should have been ready for it and she should have simply answered "Yes, we will always support our allies, unlike the current administration." and moved on.
Does that make your broader point wrong? No, but stop pretending that somehow AOC is the next coming of JFK. Give her another 10 years in the House to get better at her job. The fact that she is slightly better than the proven rapist Trump or the rest of MAGA doesn't mean we have to excuse her every mistake. Let her learn from this instead of trying to cover for her.
And that is the sort of comment that makes sure people don't believe she's ready. She is certainly more presidential than any Repub I can think of. Remember that Obama wasn't perfect right out of the gate either, but he turned out to be great at the job.
Obama did a great job? How's that? What do we have now that Obama got for us? He had a trifecta for his first two years when he could have codified Roe into law, maybe also the ACA, although I admit I don't know exactly how all that works. But I do know he kept trying to work with rethugs.... Al Frankin was incredulous about this in real time: we all knew it was fruitless, but Obama couldn't read the room. He and the Dems could have dealt with immigration issues more effectively. Expand SCOTUS? Fight harder for his SCOTUS nominee? Seems all that Obama did (I'm trying to think of what else?) can be, and is being, overturned by T's EOs. Obama even said there are 9 things he would change in a do-over. "Being a better politician" was one... he said he didn't like politicizing his efforts. The leader of one of our two major political parties didn't like politics. Awesome. Why didn't he tell us this before? So no, I am not happy with Obama. He didn't do what we hired him to do.
She's not electable, is what I mean by "not yet". And saying it does not jinx her, it just points out a truth many seem to ignore. I doubt people here are influence by my comments. "Presidential" is not as meaningful a trait as it once was.
I am so old I remember when Al Gore was pilloried for getting a couple of contributions from some Buddhist monks and for saying 3 things that were basically true but might have been partially untrue depending on how you interpreted the statements.
That is disgraceful. The Times is rapidly losing integrity
I respect her for pausing to give an answer that wasn’t canned. Her delivery was a little off but that’s fine. The MAGAts are spinning but that means she is under their skin. Good for her
Where was the paper of record when Lindsey Graham was doing this absolute bullshit?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/inside-lindsey-graham-greenland-meltdown-174907082.html
Sing it, sisters!
Ocasio-Cortez is the most brilliant politician of her generation. But the mainstream press did not invent or anoint her, so they must tear her down at every opportunity. Schools of feeder fish exhibit more independent thought; remember when the Times and WaPo took Susie Wiles's direction and all of them, all at once, "noticed" Ron DeSantis was not exactly Reaganesque?
Yeah, DC bureau reporters and editors: this is on you. And we know your names.
Yeah, Republicans are big on eloquence. Just look back. President Dementia, reading cue cards of folksy inanities and pretending he couldn't hear questions. Bush the Dumber, mumbling stupidities (UNLESS he was talking about something he cared about: baseball). Donald J. Trump, whose entire brand is repeating himself spewing ignorant slop.
Minor correction: Manfred Weber is a member of CDU, which belongs to the "European People's Party" faction in the EU parliament. This faction collects the conservative, yet not-that-far-right parties in the European parliament, it is quite distinct from the way more radical far right parties in the Patriots group and the European Conservatives and Reformist (=Eu sceptics) group.
Fun fact: Germany's far right AfD was too radical for the likes of Le Pen's merry band of nazis or Georgia Meloni's Neo-Fascists, so they had to form their own bloc with the other real nutjobs.
I am well-read and well-educated, but I sort-of, vaguely thought that all of South America was south of the equator. Because of the word "south." And because it is definitely a ways south of the US. Now that I have heard the correction, I will remember it, but it's not very important.
It's going to get more and more important with this climate change
Ta, Marcie. The NY Post blamed Mayor Mamdani for the fucking weather. WaPo and NYT were bleeding subscribers before all this. Democracies do die in darkness, especially when bozos like Bezos fire all their good reporters. Their salaries wouldn't put a dent in Bezos's wealth if they were increased a thousandfold.
NY Post was gonna do that
Because it's owned by an old school bigot
Here's the Mayor
https://www.youtube.com/live/e0dJ0CgawNE?si=90kkXnoKQuYgOJSm
The NYT can go fuck themselves with this shit. Absolutely all the way off!
Seems likely since the NYT is the journalistic equivalent of an incel.
"He insisted that technology was important to beat China in trade, yet had nothing to say after AOC rattled off some of the ways Trump [sic] has actually set us back by gutting scientific research of all kinds."
And in the time honored tradition of piling-on Whitaker also failed to note that the Fulvous Fuckwad is making things sooooo much more difficult for China by allowing Nvidia to sell its second most powerful chip there (for a 25% taste of the action):
> "The US government has given chip giant Nvidia the green light to sell its advanced artificial intelligence (AI) processors in China, the Department of Commerce said on Tuesday.
The H200, Nvidia's second-most-advanced semiconductor, had been restricted by Washington over concerns that it would give China's technology industry and military an edge over the US.
[...]
President Donald Trump [sic] said last month that he would allow the chip sales to "approved customers" in China and collect a 25% fee." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4erx1n04lo
No doubt about it, this White Hose is all-in on America First... unless there's money to be made.
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The Slimes is a fascist rag... and always has been. It's just them doing their damnedest to torpedo AOC's chances at a nod for national office. Meanwhile Trump, Musk, and RFK always stutter and stumble to say straight answers
Being one of the most impatient people on the planet, I do notice when people speak using a lot of filler words and sounds. I have noticed this about Ms. O-C. I think no less of her and her ideas, but I feel those speech patterns do nothing good for ones' credibility. Having said this, the MSM sucks balls sideways.
This is why I said she needs voice training. Bad speech habits (um, so, like, etc.) can be broken.
Yes. That would be good. Someone should tell her. Silence while you get your thoughts together is Okay.
I wish HRC had handlers for adjusting her "persona". The head-thrown-back open-mouthed laughing was off-putting. Curb appeal matters, albeit mostly for women. She should have taken rump more seriously, and also campaigned where she didn't. Water under the bridge.
Did any of those assholes who are sneering at AOC bother to say what 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 think the U.S. should do if China invades Taiwan?
She sounded like someone struggling with an incredibly touchy foreign-policy question and trying to frame the answer while not crossing any lines or setting off any alarms.
FWIW, I think "strategic ambiguity" will work fine until it doesn't. And when that day comes, we should meet force with force.
Easy for me to say, of course. I'm neither a decision-maker nor a soldier. But we all see how well appeasing Russia over Ukraine (and make no mistake, that's what Trump is doing) is going along. You can't just let dictators do whatever they want.
I also wonder how many of them knew that Venezuela is not south of the equator. It is not a subject that comes up often. And Venezuela is pretty close to the equator. I think it's just a rounding error.
Yeah. Talk to me when she says she can cut the price of something by 500%.
She is not the Secretary of State or the President. Why is she held to the standard of "must have a clean, crisp answer to this question?
Would Rubio have been held to that same standard in 2019? I think not.
He man; she woman. Different standards.
He isn't held to that standard today.
The radical right is proud if any of their crew can even answer a question instead of evading it.
Exactly. All the more reason for her to tread lightly.
Someone should have mentioned "strategic ambiguity" to Kamala Harris when she's asked about her policies regarding trans people.
You're saying she sounded completely 100% the opposite of our current president. I mean, "presidential" seems to have been redefined downwardly.
Redefined? More like vaporized.
No, AOC's answer to the Taiwan question was not perfectly fine. Given everything, she should have been ready for it and she should have simply answered "Yes, we will always support our allies, unlike the current administration." and moved on.
Does that make your broader point wrong? No, but stop pretending that somehow AOC is the next coming of JFK. Give her another 10 years in the House to get better at her job. The fact that she is slightly better than the proven rapist Trump or the rest of MAGA doesn't mean we have to excuse her every mistake. Let her learn from this instead of trying to cover for her.
omg this is all the stupidest shit.
aoc is a congresscritter from NY
america is in the midst of an authoritarian takeover
we have other shit to worry about.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-said-um/comment/215975531
She's not president material... yet. And the US is not ready for her... yet.
And that is the sort of comment that makes sure people don't believe she's ready. She is certainly more presidential than any Repub I can think of. Remember that Obama wasn't perfect right out of the gate either, but he turned out to be great at the job.
Obama did a great job? How's that? What do we have now that Obama got for us? He had a trifecta for his first two years when he could have codified Roe into law, maybe also the ACA, although I admit I don't know exactly how all that works. But I do know he kept trying to work with rethugs.... Al Frankin was incredulous about this in real time: we all knew it was fruitless, but Obama couldn't read the room. He and the Dems could have dealt with immigration issues more effectively. Expand SCOTUS? Fight harder for his SCOTUS nominee? Seems all that Obama did (I'm trying to think of what else?) can be, and is being, overturned by T's EOs. Obama even said there are 9 things he would change in a do-over. "Being a better politician" was one... he said he didn't like politicizing his efforts. The leader of one of our two major political parties didn't like politics. Awesome. Why didn't he tell us this before? So no, I am not happy with Obama. He didn't do what we hired him to do.
She's not electable, is what I mean by "not yet". And saying it does not jinx her, it just points out a truth many seem to ignore. I doubt people here are influence by my comments. "Presidential" is not as meaningful a trait as it once was.
And both of those things are ...fine.
...absolutely... fine.
A Democrat said “uhm”.
What passes for A scandal for democrats absolutely fucking insane.
I am so old I remember when Al Gore was pilloried for getting a couple of contributions from some Buddhist monks and for saying 3 things that were basically true but might have been partially untrue depending on how you interpreted the statements.