Somehow this has become routine There was another shooting on a college campus Friday, this time at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff (disclosure: Yr Dok Zoom's alma mater). It occurred at about 1:20 a.m., in the parking lot of a residence hall that houses most of the campus's fraternities and sororities, following what police said was a "confrontation" between two "student groups," although we're pretty sure they weren't the Chess Club and the Debate Team. According to NAU Police Chief Greg Fowler, at some point things turned into a fistfight, and 18-year-old freshman Steven Jones pulled a gun and fired "multiple shots," hitting four other students, killing one. The victims were identified by NAU administration as Nicholas Piring, Nicholas Prato, and Kyle Zientek; the deceased student is Colin Brough, whose picture was
You can't take the heat? Burn too easily in the sun? That's about all I've got. (oh wait, the gunz)
We have friends who winter every year in Florida; they tell us that when we retire, we, too will want to join them. I have made it abundantly clear that NO, we will not, and in fact won't even visit them.
I hear all that, I really do. Only comment is about your comment that you blame those who make it easy for people to arm themselves. For that, I ask simply "what more can be done?" Take me, I have a gun, at home, taken apart, locked up--because I in fact, obey the gun laws. How, and I mean this in all sincerity, how can we do more to stop someone who is not law abiding from getting a gun? It is estimated there are 100 million guns in America--we both know you can't waive a magic wand and "poof" they all go away. So what do we in fact, do? As it stands today, when someone comes on to a campus, or public place and starts shooting--everyone is OK calling the police, so they can bring their "guns" to try and save lives. At the same time, there is wide spread objection to someone like you or me==even IF that person is willing to take training, get a permit and be prepared to help--that's rejected as a notion. Permits? yeah, they are void in most places--any public place. If more people carried, legally (no, not ALL, I'm not saying that) who could be in place to help, I contend, it could help (no did not say a perfect answer, there is none). Remember FBI, at one time, could not be armed--enough people died, now they are. Park Rangers, were not armed, at one time, but after enough of them were killed, many now are armed. Same with Pilots, many are now, but were not before. But NOT teachers--I guess enough blood has not been shed yet. Shame.
Can you imagine Thanksgiving dinner with your family, if you didn't all have AR-15's strapped to your backs? How would anyone be polite? (Please pass the mashed potatoes and another clip, mine is getting empty here.)
Yup. TSU being a historical black college (with the student body overwelmingly African-American) I don't expect the US media to give it nearly the coverage it will the NAU shootings.
Everyone knows that you use the name of a comic book villain, therefore you must be a villain, therefore you HATE GUNS!!! It's clearly a causal relationship, and not a logical fallacy! (Also you clearly hate America, puppies, and FREEDOM™)
... so polite, it's killing me how polite it is. I mean, I can't believe it.
The Invisible Hand of the Free Market wins again!!! All hail capitalism, and money laundering, and guns, don't forget the guns.
You can't take the heat? Burn too easily in the sun? That's about all I've got. (oh wait, the gunz)
We have friends who winter every year in Florida; they tell us that when we retire, we, too will want to join them. I have made it abundantly clear that NO, we will not, and in fact won't even visit them.
"Another Day, Another Campus Shooting, One Dead, Three Injured, Yawn"
Wow. Tell us how you really feel.
Right, all those Parisians should have been armed too. Got it! Jmichael for POTUS! *YAY*
I hear all that, I really do. Only comment is about your comment that you blame those who make it easy for people to arm themselves. For that, I ask simply "what more can be done?" Take me, I have a gun, at home, taken apart, locked up--because I in fact, obey the gun laws. How, and I mean this in all sincerity, how can we do more to stop someone who is not law abiding from getting a gun? It is estimated there are 100 million guns in America--we both know you can't waive a magic wand and "poof" they all go away. So what do we in fact, do? As it stands today, when someone comes on to a campus, or public place and starts shooting--everyone is OK calling the police, so they can bring their "guns" to try and save lives. At the same time, there is wide spread objection to someone like you or me==even IF that person is willing to take training, get a permit and be prepared to help--that's rejected as a notion. Permits? yeah, they are void in most places--any public place. If more people carried, legally (no, not ALL, I'm not saying that) who could be in place to help, I contend, it could help (no did not say a perfect answer, there is none). Remember FBI, at one time, could not be armed--enough people died, now they are. Park Rangers, were not armed, at one time, but after enough of them were killed, many now are armed. Same with Pilots, many are now, but were not before. But NOT teachers--I guess enough blood has not been shed yet. Shame.
Has anyone tried legalizing bullet proof vests using the self defense argument?That would be a fun counter to the gun humper argument.
soon to be ex-Texas Southern University President John M. RudleyTIFIFY
You're gonna carry that weight...
NRA: It is not enough to have more guns, but everyone has to be shooting them all the time or we shall never be safe or polite.
Can you imagine Thanksgiving dinner with your family, if you didn't all have AR-15's strapped to your backs? How would anyone be polite? (Please pass the mashed potatoes and another clip, mine is getting empty here.)
Yup. TSU being a historical black college (with the student body overwelmingly African-American) I don't expect the US media to give it nearly the coverage it will the NAU shootings.
Rudley just shit in a rattlesnake nest and there goes Obama's unemployment numbers
Everyone knows that you use the name of a comic book villain, therefore you must be a villain, therefore you HATE GUNS!!! It's clearly a causal relationship, and not a logical fallacy! (Also you clearly hate America, puppies, and FREEDOM™)
Oh, look, Ben Carson: The next one is here, as you said it would be.
Oh, also too: