Now that the Supreme Court has heard arguments in Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd. v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission (the one with the Christian guy who doesn't want to bake cakes for gay weddings), it seems like everything old is new again. It's sort of like one of those episodes of the Golden Girls that was 90% flashbacks and 10% eating cheesecake, except it's not funny, no one learns any lessons, the cheesecake is made of rat poison, and all the Golden Girls have been secretly replaced with Billy Graham.
This is also true. It's the main reason I don't fear a theocracy form these clowns. The rest of the sects will shut them down as they know they would be outlawed as fast as the atheists and Muslims. There is only room for one truth. Every single sect thinks they and they alone have it. They are not going to compromise with another group on the Truth.
Why would anyone want to support a business that was politically contrary to themselves? If a white supremacist refused to sell you a sandwich are you going to take the white supremacist to court to force them to sell you a sandwich? If you answered "yes" then please explain why the fuck you are going to a white supremacist's sandwich shop?
Vote with your dollars, don't fund the enemy. This is basic stuff, 101 level. The people behind the "cake controversy" have no illusions about this being about gay rights.
Selling food to the gays wouldn't inhibit dude's ability to pray, get baptised, get married to a woman, breed (ew), go to church, build a church, minister or proselytize etc. The only individual religious freedom he suffered was deciding not to reap and sow the benefits of gay cake sales. The people crying free speech need to draw a line. If I make a mustard smiley in a sandwich smash and eat the fucker it all goes to the same place. Cant believe the supreme justices cared to listen to this asshole. Daytime tv judges must've been booked
Maybe because no one puts a sign in the window of his or her business that states "I'm a white supremacist. Buy at your own risk." Maybe the gay guys went to a cake shop that they thought sold nice cakes, and they asked to buy one. And the bigot behind the counter said, "Well, I'd sell you any of them if you weren't gay guys. But you are. And I don't think Jesus likes gay guys, because my lying pastor tells me so and Faux news tells me I shouldn't, and because Molon Labe will support my position, so I think I can get a lot of publicity for my cake shop if I don't sell you a cake and I tell everybody about it, and maybe the other bigots will set up a Gofundme account and I'll make more money for doing nothing rather than by selling you a cake I'd gladly sell to a prostitute or a killer or a drug dealer, but I won't sell to you." This is basic 101-level stuff. The guy behind the cake shop has no illusions about this being about gay rights. It's about being an asshole and getting lots of publicity while pretending to be some kind of heroic Christian when in reality he's a stinking hypocrite. Jesus didn't say, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, unless their fucking gay."
If the cake order required the baker to write 'i support gay marriage' sign or business logo and advertise that cake on his personal or business website, or in a cake portfolio, he might have a case about speech.
The cake shop asshole isn't the one who publicized this.
Your example is moot because there is no "sign in the window" needed. Once you know the ideology of the business person (as with the cake) thats when you take your dolla-dolla-bills elsewhere.
What you are telling me is that if you unknowingly walked in to white supremacist sandwich shop and ordered a sloppy-joe and the skinhead behind the counter said he didn't want to make whoever-you-are (because of, whoever-you-are) a sloppy-joe and also by-the-way "sieg Heil" & "white power" you would be like "I still want that sloppy-joe".
Lordy, Delmarva is suddenly trendy! Cake story is front page on our regional paper - no doubt, because tourism (and, of late, gay marriage tourism) is YUUUGE business down here these days. Two things come to mind for Lady MS. First, as I write custom poetry for special occasions, was recently tasked by a hetero friend familiar with my work to do a rehearsal dinner toast for my first gay marriage. It was simple. Gave client same free consult as anyone else, got the 411 on the couple, composed a ditty that incorporated a host of personal, funny and affectionate references, aligned it in decorative font and printed it on frameable cardstock. Client read it at rehearsal dinner, and gave it (framed) as her wedding gift; it was a hit, check cleared the bank & everyone was pleased. Secondly, can recall when businesses used to deny service to blahs, for similar 'personal issues'. Smart folks on the eastern shore realized that all money was green, and wisely decided to serve all comers. Thus endeth, by virtue of the free market, many vestiges of discrimination. Rampant greed will always prevail, and fools like the Baker Bigot will eventually be hoisted on their own foolish petard. Speak truth to stupidity w/your wallets!
The moore puns, the batter we like it.
A message from your friends at Aperture Laboratories: The cake is a lie.
We can no longer blame Disqus for acting up. They are now part of Zeta Global.
Anyone who is not in his little sliver of Xinsanity is by his definition an unbeliever.
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This is also true. It's the main reason I don't fear a theocracy form these clowns. The rest of the sects will shut them down as they know they would be outlawed as fast as the atheists and Muslims. There is only room for one truth. Every single sect thinks they and they alone have it. They are not going to compromise with another group on the Truth.
Well they could be eggs from dyke ducks.
Why would anyone want to support a business that was politically contrary to themselves? If a white supremacist refused to sell you a sandwich are you going to take the white supremacist to court to force them to sell you a sandwich? If you answered "yes" then please explain why the fuck you are going to a white supremacist's sandwich shop?
Vote with your dollars, don't fund the enemy. This is basic stuff, 101 level. The people behind the "cake controversy" have no illusions about this being about gay rights.
Selling food to the gays wouldn't inhibit dude's ability to pray, get baptised, get married to a woman, breed (ew), go to church, build a church, minister or proselytize etc. The only individual religious freedom he suffered was deciding not to reap and sow the benefits of gay cake sales. The people crying free speech need to draw a line. If I make a mustard smiley in a sandwich smash and eat the fucker it all goes to the same place. Cant believe the supreme justices cared to listen to this asshole. Daytime tv judges must've been booked
In certain parts of Utah the 1st wife would bake the cake.
Maybe because no one puts a sign in the window of his or her business that states "I'm a white supremacist. Buy at your own risk." Maybe the gay guys went to a cake shop that they thought sold nice cakes, and they asked to buy one. And the bigot behind the counter said, "Well, I'd sell you any of them if you weren't gay guys. But you are. And I don't think Jesus likes gay guys, because my lying pastor tells me so and Faux news tells me I shouldn't, and because Molon Labe will support my position, so I think I can get a lot of publicity for my cake shop if I don't sell you a cake and I tell everybody about it, and maybe the other bigots will set up a Gofundme account and I'll make more money for doing nothing rather than by selling you a cake I'd gladly sell to a prostitute or a killer or a drug dealer, but I won't sell to you." This is basic 101-level stuff. The guy behind the cake shop has no illusions about this being about gay rights. It's about being an asshole and getting lots of publicity while pretending to be some kind of heroic Christian when in reality he's a stinking hypocrite. Jesus didn't say, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, unless their fucking gay."
If the cake order required the baker to write 'i support gay marriage' sign or business logo and advertise that cake on his personal or business website, or in a cake portfolio, he might have a case about speech.
The cake shop asshole isn't the one who publicized this.
Your example is moot because there is no "sign in the window" needed. Once you know the ideology of the business person (as with the cake) thats when you take your dolla-dolla-bills elsewhere.
What you are telling me is that if you unknowingly walked in to white supremacist sandwich shop and ordered a sloppy-joe and the skinhead behind the counter said he didn't want to make whoever-you-are (because of, whoever-you-are) a sloppy-joe and also by-the-way "sieg Heil" & "white power" you would be like "I still want that sloppy-joe".
Dead-Scalia, Gorsuch, and Thomas, otoh.......
Nazi-ism = white power = the power to impose their so-called superiority on others.
Lordy, Delmarva is suddenly trendy! Cake story is front page on our regional paper - no doubt, because tourism (and, of late, gay marriage tourism) is YUUUGE business down here these days. Two things come to mind for Lady MS. First, as I write custom poetry for special occasions, was recently tasked by a hetero friend familiar with my work to do a rehearsal dinner toast for my first gay marriage. It was simple. Gave client same free consult as anyone else, got the 411 on the couple, composed a ditty that incorporated a host of personal, funny and affectionate references, aligned it in decorative font and printed it on frameable cardstock. Client read it at rehearsal dinner, and gave it (framed) as her wedding gift; it was a hit, check cleared the bank & everyone was pleased. Secondly, can recall when businesses used to deny service to blahs, for similar 'personal issues'. Smart folks on the eastern shore realized that all money was green, and wisely decided to serve all comers. Thus endeth, by virtue of the free market, many vestiges of discrimination. Rampant greed will always prevail, and fools like the Baker Bigot will eventually be hoisted on their own foolish petard. Speak truth to stupidity w/your wallets!