Ugh. In high school, I refused any attempt to force the Bible. HS was the one place that I didn't want to hear about Jesus. Got more than enough of that at church, 4 days a week.
If you want to fact check the N.T., you have to use the original Hebrew. The errors occur in Greek and carried into English. You remember the saying, "you can't haul 2 tons of fertilizer in a one ton truck." In other words you need a Hebrew bible and the dead sea scrolls will back me up. I mean besides the obvious contradictions in the N.T.
I like how they are leaving pride and prejudice in there. Cause it certainly does not cast the clergy in a good light and most certainly was pretty woke for its day.
It's also about young women growing up and getting enlightened. The heroines of all six of her novels end the story wiser than they started, which was her point--
I always wanted to take the Bible as Lit course in college, but every semester it was only offered at 8:30am and I had to be honest with myself I would never get up that early to go, lol
Yeah, what young teenager wants to read about love and lust and social constraints on teenagers, when they could be reading about why the god they've been taught to worship all their lives inexplicably hates their fucking guts, with no questions permitted.
I took a bible as literature course in college because I enjoyed the professor. This being rural AZ on the first day a third of the class were clearly fundies looking for a religious experience. By the second class half the fundies had dropped out. Those that stayed were constantly asking questions because the professor would mention something historical that they had never heard of before. Or use some term they were unfamiliar with. It was amazing how ignorant these ladies were. Yes, they were all women who apparently were allowed to take time off housework as long as it was something religious. I hope some of those ladies learned something that helped them escape their cults but I doubt it.
I'd like to think some of them tucked away in their minds that idea that questioning things might be something they could do when circumstances were right.
Ta, Robyn. Decades ago, when I was a public school student, there was a moment of prayer during the day. Then the Supreme Court said no, and it was gone. It should stay gone.
I think a good case could be made of a high school level literature course which presents the important ideas and figures of speech in the Bible. How are absolutely lost in Shakespear and Milton and all the other heavies unless you got yr Bible learnin. It was a common coin of any discourse up until recetnly.
It works the other way also learn Bible stuff through literature. Notes and glossaries are for everyone. ETA: EEK, substack threw me back in time 7 hours, which is why I found myself commenting here. Nevermind as you prefer.
"In my view, teaching selective biblical passages in their proper historical literary context is not religious indoctrination. It’s a rather good education. In my view this curriculum is both constitutionally permissible and educationally responsible.”
Newsflash bigot: your view is shit and you need glasses or possibly a cornea transplant or two.
The Face-Swapped Christ (Revelation 1:14-16): Describes Jesus not as the gentle shepherd, but with hair "white as wool," eyes "like a blazing fire," feet "like glowing bronze," and a voice like "rushing waters." A double-edged sword comes out of his mouth.
The Cosmic War (Revelation 12:7-8): Depicts a literal war breaking out in heaven, where Archangel Michael and his angels fight a massive, seven-headed dragon (Satan), throwing him and his demons down to the earth.
The Locust-Scorpions from the Abyss (Revelation 9:7-10): Describes a plague of demonic locusts released from the bottomless pit. They have human faces, women's hair, lion's teeth, armor, and scorpion tails that torment humanity for five months.
The Bloody Rider (Revelation 19:11-13, 15): Portrays Jesus returning on a white horse, wearing a robe dipped in blood. He strikes down the nations with a sharp, double-edged sword that comes out of his mouth.
The jokes on them alright, the kids can't read and ChatGP will tell them the Bible is mythology!
Ugh. In high school, I refused any attempt to force the Bible. HS was the one place that I didn't want to hear about Jesus. Got more than enough of that at church, 4 days a week.
'teaching selective biblical passages'
The 'selective' is a major part of the problem here with these cafeteria christians.
I would love to be a teacher and "select" my own passages.
If you want to fact check the N.T., you have to use the original Hebrew. The errors occur in Greek and carried into English. You remember the saying, "you can't haul 2 tons of fertilizer in a one ton truck." In other words you need a Hebrew bible and the dead sea scrolls will back me up. I mean besides the obvious contradictions in the N.T.
I like how they are leaving pride and prejudice in there. Cause it certainly does not cast the clergy in a good light and most certainly was pretty woke for its day.
These fucking people.
It's also about young women growing up and getting enlightened. The heroines of all six of her novels end the story wiser than they started, which was her point--
I always wanted to take the Bible as Lit course in college, but every semester it was only offered at 8:30am and I had to be honest with myself I would never get up that early to go, lol
It was amazing. I used the knowledge to slay the bf's parent's Southern Baptist b.s. (left him soon after).
I took a similarly timed course of Greek History. It was a poor decision.
I sometimes feel guilty that my children won't automatically understand religious references in literature that were so obvious to me.
Then I think about how they can eventually learn the religious references without the burden of the religion itself, and I feel better about it.
that state is even more effed up than floriduh by the looks of it
And that’s saying a LOT
Yeah, what young teenager wants to read about love and lust and social constraints on teenagers, when they could be reading about why the god they've been taught to worship all their lives inexplicably hates their fucking guts, with no questions permitted.
The First Principle of Religious Freedom is Freedom from Religion.
The door it opened slowly
My father he came in
I was nine years old
And He stood so tall above me
His blues they were shining
And his voice was very cold
He said I had a vision
And you know I'm strong and holy
I must do what I've been told
So we started up the mountain
I was running he was walking
And his axe was made of gold
~ L. Cohen, Story of Isaac
I took a bible as literature course in college because I enjoyed the professor. This being rural AZ on the first day a third of the class were clearly fundies looking for a religious experience. By the second class half the fundies had dropped out. Those that stayed were constantly asking questions because the professor would mention something historical that they had never heard of before. Or use some term they were unfamiliar with. It was amazing how ignorant these ladies were. Yes, they were all women who apparently were allowed to take time off housework as long as it was something religious. I hope some of those ladies learned something that helped them escape their cults but I doubt it.
I'd like to think some of them tucked away in their minds that idea that questioning things might be something they could do when circumstances were right.
Ta, Robyn. Decades ago, when I was a public school student, there was a moment of prayer during the day. Then the Supreme Court said no, and it was gone. It should stay gone.
I think a good case could be made of a high school level literature course which presents the important ideas and figures of speech in the Bible. How are absolutely lost in Shakespear and Milton and all the other heavies unless you got yr Bible learnin. It was a common coin of any discourse up until recetnly.
We have different common references now.
Remember when Marcia gets her nose whacked by a football?
It works the other way also learn Bible stuff through literature. Notes and glossaries are for everyone. ETA: EEK, substack threw me back in time 7 hours, which is why I found myself commenting here. Nevermind as you prefer.
"In my view, teaching selective biblical passages in their proper historical literary context is not religious indoctrination. It’s a rather good education. In my view this curriculum is both constitutionally permissible and educationally responsible.”
Newsflash bigot: your view is shit and you need glasses or possibly a cornea transplant or two.
Bible verses selected by the AI!
The Face-Swapped Christ (Revelation 1:14-16): Describes Jesus not as the gentle shepherd, but with hair "white as wool," eyes "like a blazing fire," feet "like glowing bronze," and a voice like "rushing waters." A double-edged sword comes out of his mouth.
The Cosmic War (Revelation 12:7-8): Depicts a literal war breaking out in heaven, where Archangel Michael and his angels fight a massive, seven-headed dragon (Satan), throwing him and his demons down to the earth.
The Locust-Scorpions from the Abyss (Revelation 9:7-10): Describes a plague of demonic locusts released from the bottomless pit. They have human faces, women's hair, lion's teeth, armor, and scorpion tails that torment humanity for five months.
The Bloody Rider (Revelation 19:11-13, 15): Portrays Jesus returning on a white horse, wearing a robe dipped in blood. He strikes down the nations with a sharp, double-edged sword that comes out of his mouth.