In real life airliners glide just fine, with the 747 having a glide ratio of 15/1. Remember the Airbus-on-the-Hudson incident. Sully put the thing down pretty as you please on the long wet runway.
We trade altitude for airspeed. We don't just fall out of the sky.
So, do pilots make a regular habit of threatening each other if they need/want to make changes based on the situation?
I know we're not supposed to blame the innocent lil' guns, but, I dunno.
You see, I have a bit of a hypothesis.
Much like how in theatre they will say "if you put a shotgun over the mantle, someone has to get shot with it by the end of show." Many audiences will anticipate that, just be seeing the gun on the mantle during the first scene of the show.
I think some gun owners are like that. They're less "better to have it and not need it" and more "if I have it, I will definitely need it." and oh look, today's the day! Basically, I think some folks walk around strapped hoping that moment never comes, Whereas others get tired of carrying a cold gun, so they go looking for their "moment".
When you're a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. When you're a gun nut, every argument looks like a deadly threat.
He threatened to murder the pilot if the pilot diverted the flight for an ill passenger? And he was only charged with interfering? Not for the kidnapping of the pilot by threat of death? And yet the trippy pilot who was dead heading and was still under the influence of psychedelics when he unsuccessfully pushed buttons caught like 75 charges? These cases seem incongruously treated. Choosing to deadhead, in the cockpit, after ingesting mind-altering drugs is incredibly serious. But he wasn’t in his right mind. He may have intended to solve a problem that didn’t exist. He may have been out of touch with reality and was incapable of forming intent. The other pilot has no such “excuse.” He used a totally irrational threat of deadly force against another pilot, while in flight, simply for considering a diverted flight plan. He should be barred from ever piloting again, and from flying at all until his mental health is restored. The other guy needs to lay off the shrooms, man. He probably deserves to be banned also, and have substance abuse treatment. But 83 counts of attempted murder? I’m confident those will be dismissed.
Nevermind that he was actually working,... On the clock... Thus, it would sound like a nice lawsuit against the airline... vs the other one, on his trip to another airport...
My question......WHAT KIND OF SCREENING are these armed pilots getting? This MAGA anti-vaxxer got booted from a command position in the Air Force for insubordination and dereliction of duty FFS !!!!! And the Marshall's service says "come on down! meet your brand new Glock 9 (with all the bells and whistles) compliments of the guys at 'shoot first' academy of dipshittery and nose picking......
Clearly the way to deal with the chance of one bad apple in the cockpit is to make sure everyone on the plane is armed.
Same goes for classrooms. If you are sending your eight-year-old to school, don't you want her to be in the position to return fire????
I'm sort of surprised that Defendant Trump hasn't given a speech where he describes large, burley men, eyes filled with tears, telling him that having everyone armed in schools was the greatest idea any human ever had.
I never thought of the children packing heat. Now that you mention it…genius! Republicans ban sex ed in favor of gun safety and self-defense classes! Learn to return fire and to cover your classmates and teacher. Oh! School choice tax credits for the NRA-approved handgun of your choice. Kids will enjoy feeling safe packing their Peppa Pig pistol, Bluey Beretta, or Spider-Man Smith & Wesson. Or, you know, start making it much harder for every lunatic to own a deadly weapon.
we're still taking off our shoes if we don't have TSA PreCheck.
but the stupid part is the 3-oz bottle nonsense.
Well, it's all theater.
Though I do like to hear stories about buttheads who try to bring guns through the checkpoints and get stopped, though I'm glad I hear about them rather than having them happen right in front of me, where I'm much more likely to be shot by a 2nd Amendment Absolutist.
I feel the need to correct the term for a pilot riding in a jump seat. Deadheading means that you are being ferried to another flight. Moving one body to where it is needed. CJA is Certified Jumpseat Authority, which was what this was doing. They do not (usually) make you jump seat on a dead head. You get a seat in first, typically. Unless you're a flight attendant then they give you coach, where someone who doesn't like that you're taking up a seat in uniform will kick the back of your chair for hours. (This happened to me! Jerk!)
Is threatening to shoot someone multiple times a more coercive threat than being shot once in a specific vital place? I'm not acquainted withe more subtle aspects of the Second Amendment and commercial air travel.
Most of them have their cards and don't want to see that gravy train disappear. So they'll try to find some way to do legislation that keeps them stoned but precludes and outlaws non-white people from the same benefits.
not a jock myself i hung w/ them in HS as a result of neighborhood friends … they would get drunk & cruise Woodward (Detroit area thing) … this often resulted in fights w/ other cruising teens, i demurred as i was a stoner by choice … to this day (50+ years) i’ve never seen a pot smoker start or get into a physical altercation … harshes the buzz …
In real life airliners glide just fine, with the 747 having a glide ratio of 15/1. Remember the Airbus-on-the-Hudson incident. Sully put the thing down pretty as you please on the long wet runway.
We trade altitude for airspeed. We don't just fall out of the sky.
I’d hate to be a pilot or copilot on Trump Force One.
Shart Force One.
Fixed it.
Sure..arm the pilots AND the passengers, somebody said.
What EVER could go wrong?
So, do pilots make a regular habit of threatening each other if they need/want to make changes based on the situation?
I know we're not supposed to blame the innocent lil' guns, but, I dunno.
You see, I have a bit of a hypothesis.
Much like how in theatre they will say "if you put a shotgun over the mantle, someone has to get shot with it by the end of show." Many audiences will anticipate that, just be seeing the gun on the mantle during the first scene of the show.
I think some gun owners are like that. They're less "better to have it and not need it" and more "if I have it, I will definitely need it." and oh look, today's the day! Basically, I think some folks walk around strapped hoping that moment never comes, Whereas others get tired of carrying a cold gun, so they go looking for their "moment".
When you're a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. When you're a gun nut, every argument looks like a deadly threat.
He threatened to murder the pilot if the pilot diverted the flight for an ill passenger? And he was only charged with interfering? Not for the kidnapping of the pilot by threat of death? And yet the trippy pilot who was dead heading and was still under the influence of psychedelics when he unsuccessfully pushed buttons caught like 75 charges? These cases seem incongruously treated. Choosing to deadhead, in the cockpit, after ingesting mind-altering drugs is incredibly serious. But he wasn’t in his right mind. He may have intended to solve a problem that didn’t exist. He may have been out of touch with reality and was incapable of forming intent. The other pilot has no such “excuse.” He used a totally irrational threat of deadly force against another pilot, while in flight, simply for considering a diverted flight plan. He should be barred from ever piloting again, and from flying at all until his mental health is restored. The other guy needs to lay off the shrooms, man. He probably deserves to be banned also, and have substance abuse treatment. But 83 counts of attempted murder? I’m confident those will be dismissed.
Nevermind that he was actually working,... On the clock... Thus, it would sound like a nice lawsuit against the airline... vs the other one, on his trip to another airport...
My question......WHAT KIND OF SCREENING are these armed pilots getting? This MAGA anti-vaxxer got booted from a command position in the Air Force for insubordination and dereliction of duty FFS !!!!! And the Marshall's service says "come on down! meet your brand new Glock 9 (with all the bells and whistles) compliments of the guys at 'shoot first' academy of dipshittery and nose picking......
Was he a Christianist wacko?
You know the difference between jet engines and airline pilots? Jet engines stop whining at the gate!
You know the difference between a first officer and a duck? Ducks know how to fly....
Yeah, we're takin' off our shoes after a failed shoe bombing but what about the underwear bomber?
People have been taking off their Fucking shoes since Dec. 2001! Can't be too safe said the inventor of MFA
It's 22 years after 9/11, and the TSA still can't tell the difference between a jar of apple butter and a bomb.
Clearly the way to deal with the chance of one bad apple in the cockpit is to make sure everyone on the plane is armed.
Same goes for classrooms. If you are sending your eight-year-old to school, don't you want her to be in the position to return fire????
I'm sort of surprised that Defendant Trump hasn't given a speech where he describes large, burley men, eyes filled with tears, telling him that having everyone armed in schools was the greatest idea any human ever had.
I never thought of the children packing heat. Now that you mention it…genius! Republicans ban sex ed in favor of gun safety and self-defense classes! Learn to return fire and to cover your classmates and teacher. Oh! School choice tax credits for the NRA-approved handgun of your choice. Kids will enjoy feeling safe packing their Peppa Pig pistol, Bluey Beretta, or Spider-Man Smith & Wesson. Or, you know, start making it much harder for every lunatic to own a deadly weapon.
Sorry, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/best-guns-for-kids/
Lol. I myself bought my first .22 at age 13. A Remington with a 15 shot clip. My parents were nuts to let a child as stupid as me own that thing.
we're still taking off our shoes if we don't have TSA PreCheck.
but the stupid part is the 3-oz bottle nonsense.
Well, it's all theater.
Though I do like to hear stories about buttheads who try to bring guns through the checkpoints and get stopped, though I'm glad I hear about them rather than having them happen right in front of me, where I'm much more likely to be shot by a 2nd Amendment Absolutist.
Is a 2nd Amendent Absolutist a vodka martini made with Absolut, and a 5.53mm round instead of an olive?
Not to be a stickler.....it's 5.56mm.
It's a vodka martini that uses the blood of murdered children instead of vermouth.
That sounds more like a Bloody AR Mary
Most mass shooters want to die, so arming teachers might not be the deterrent some dummies think it is.
Especially when Mr. Smith, armed under the arm the teachers program, loses it one morning and decides to shoot up the school.
I feel the need to correct the term for a pilot riding in a jump seat. Deadheading means that you are being ferried to another flight. Moving one body to where it is needed. CJA is Certified Jumpseat Authority, which was what this was doing. They do not (usually) make you jump seat on a dead head. You get a seat in first, typically. Unless you're a flight attendant then they give you coach, where someone who doesn't like that you're taking up a seat in uniform will kick the back of your chair for hours. (This happened to me! Jerk!)
Former Flight Attendant
Respect to you. Talk about a tough job!
What happened on that Delta flight was: The. Worst. Cosplay. Of. A. Klingon. Power. Grab. Ever!1!11!!
Stupid p’takh! No blood wine for him!
Agreed. Plus, there will be no Stovokor, much less prune juice, for this p'takh!!!
May his gagh be forever dead on his plate!
𝑫𝒖𝒏𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒈𝒆𝒅𝒍𝒚 "𝒕𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒑𝒕𝒂𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒃𝒆 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒕 𝒎𝒖𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒑𝒍𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒎𝒆𝒔" 𝒊𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒅𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒅, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒊𝒏𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒐𝒓 𝒈𝒆𝒏𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒔𝒂𝒊𝒅.
Why the fuck did he feel so strongly about this?
Is threatening to shoot someone multiple times a more coercive threat than being shot once in a specific vital place? I'm not acquainted withe more subtle aspects of the Second Amendment and commercial air travel.
Gonna say Brain Worms, based on his bullshit over the COVID vaccine. (Ivermectin does not work on Brain Worms)
We'll see Rs jumping on the anti weed train again since it's a gateway into all other drugs.
That's gonna be a difficult spigot to turn off.
They got Roe so I put nothing past them.
Point!
Most of them have their cards and don't want to see that gravy train disappear. So they'll try to find some way to do legislation that keeps them stoned but precludes and outlaws non-white people from the same benefits.
These assholes are so addicted to everything from the pharmacy they have in the building.
"I liked it so much I bought the company!"
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Kiam
well clearly the only way to counter a bad deadhead with a gun is a good deadhead with a gun or possibly some righteous weed
The kind bud soothes all ills.
not a jock myself i hung w/ them in HS as a result of neighborhood friends … they would get drunk & cruise Woodward (Detroit area thing) … this often resulted in fights w/ other cruising teens, i demurred as i was a stoner by choice … to this day (50+ years) i’ve never seen a pot smoker start or get into a physical altercation … harshes the buzz …
And some Allman Brothers.
Read about the Gimli Glider. Passenger jets don't make great gliders, but it can be done.