Polish up your resumes, Wonketeers, because it looks like the great state of Arizona will soon be in the market for a new press flack! After the AP and the Washington Post reported that the botched execution of convicted murderer Joseph R. Wood III was punctuated by nearly two hours of snorting and gasping, the Arizona Attorney General's office felt it needed to set the record straight.
Oh you're absolutely right its NOT about economic rationality, I usually use that cudgel because most of the arguments the same people are making to ME about why government is so bad and can't be trusted are framed in their own personal twisted economics logic. The money wasted on executions (attempted and fulfilled) somehow never seems to rank with their perception of the money "wasted" on feeding the hungry, at home or abroad though, its funny how that works :(
<blockquote> a civilized, reasonable society ought to be able to recognize that Joseph R. Wood III committed a heinous crime AND ALSO be able to administer justice without also committing a heinous crime.</blockquote> This would be true if you thought the purpose of the criminal justice system was to deter potential criminals from committing similar acts. It&#039;s obvious, however, that its purpose is to provide therapy for relatives of the victim.
I&#039;m telling you those Jews were just taking a train ride and checking out the new furnace technology it was so inviting they even brought their kids and it looked like they were having fun.This was my first holocaust and I dont want to minimize that
Lets be economical about this, a container of Drano is like $10, surely there is a cheaper and more efficient way to murder people in the name of state-sponsored revenge.
I&#039;ll never understand suporting the death penalty. I understand WHY people have a fetish for death and revenge, but not their utter lack of capacity for compassion and just basic logic that goes into thinking that state sponsored lethal retribution is a generally sound idea.
When I&#039;m actually trying to make the argument to people I know, I just tell people it takes many millions of dollars (on average) to actually resolve a death penalty case from initial sentencing recommendation to the guy getting the poison injection. It is far more efficient and cruel for them to rot in max security for 70+ years, from an economic standpoint.
I tried it, and their counter is always to simply have them marched outside right after sentencing and have the bailiff put a bullet in their brainpan. They don&#039;t see the actual execution as a flaw, they see that the process is too slow because &quot;hey if 12 people who couldn&#039;t get out of jury duty say he&#039;s guilty, then he must be guilty&quot;.
&quot;James Wilson lectured on justice and punishments, saying in 1791, &quot;A nation [that tolerates] cruel punishments becomes dastardly and contemptible. For in nations, as well as individuals, cruelty is always attended by cowardice.&quot; He argued that punishments should be swift, certain, and moderate in order to be effective and prevent further crime.&quot; <a href="http://billofrightsinstitut..." target="_blank">" rel="nofollow noopener" title="http://billofrightsinstitute.org/resources/educat...">http://billofrightsinstitut...
Oh you&#039;re absolutely right its NOT about economic rationality, I usually use that cudgel because most of the arguments the same people are making to ME about why government is so bad and can&#039;t be trusted are framed in their own personal twisted economics logic. The money wasted on executions (attempted and fulfilled) somehow never seems to rank with their perception of the money &quot;wasted&quot; on feeding the hungry, at home or abroad though, its funny how that works :(
My wife will tell you that snoring can be really annoying, and not all that deserving to kind treatment.
Two words: <i>Ricin, Arizona</i>.
<blockquote> a civilized, reasonable society ought to be able to recognize that Joseph R. Wood III committed a heinous crime AND ALSO be able to administer justice without also committing a heinous crime.</blockquote> This would be true if you thought the purpose of the criminal justice system was to deter potential criminals from committing similar acts. It&#039;s obvious, however, that its purpose is to provide therapy for relatives of the victim.
I&#039;m telling you those Jews were just taking a train ride and checking out the new furnace technology it was so inviting they even brought their kids and it looked like they were having fun.This was my first holocaust and I dont want to minimize that
Lets be economical about this, a container of Drano is like $10, surely there is a cheaper and more efficient way to murder people in the name of state-sponsored revenge.
Did she take a selfie with the deceased?
I&#039;ll never understand suporting the death penalty. I understand WHY people have a fetish for death and revenge, but not their utter lack of capacity for compassion and just basic logic that goes into thinking that state sponsored lethal retribution is a generally sound idea.
When I&#039;m actually trying to make the argument to people I know, I just tell people it takes many millions of dollars (on average) to actually resolve a death penalty case from initial sentencing recommendation to the guy getting the poison injection. It is far more efficient and cruel for them to rot in max security for 70+ years, from an economic standpoint.
I tried it, and their counter is always to simply have them marched outside right after sentencing and have the bailiff put a bullet in their brainpan. They don&#039;t see the actual execution as a flaw, they see that the process is too slow because &quot;hey if 12 people who couldn&#039;t get out of jury duty say he&#039;s guilty, then he must be guilty&quot;.
You could use weather-coated barbed wire and reuse it for multiple prisoners, bonus suffering for no extra cost.
&quot;James Wilson lectured on justice and punishments, saying in 1791, &quot;A nation [that tolerates] cruel punishments becomes dastardly and contemptible. For in nations, as well as individuals, cruelty is always attended by cowardice.&quot; He argued that punishments should be swift, certain, and moderate in order to be effective and prevent further crime.&quot; <a href="http://billofrightsinstitut..." target="_blank">" rel="nofollow noopener" title="http://billofrightsinstitute.org/resources/educat...">http://billofrightsinstitut...
Baghdad Bob, is that you?
<i>He is not yet dead That&#039;s what the geezer said No, he&#039;s not yet dead That man is off his head
He is not yet dead So put him back in bed Keep him off the cart because he&#039;s not yet dead. </i>
<i>This was my first execution</i>
And, the good Lord willing, I&#039;ll be here for many more to come. Pass the popcorn.
Why not boiling oil? Or the breaking wheel? Or burning at the stake? I mean, if you want suffering those are pretty good ways to go about it.
He wasn&#039;t crying out in pain. He was pinin&#039; for the fjords!