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Rosemary Orlandi's avatar

more than ever I believe you should have to pass a cognitive test to breed ; I know its crass but lets face some of these folks don't have enough sense to keep themselves alive, much less a newborn.

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. The one M.D. who works in our clinic is a pediatrician who sees patients on Fridays. All the other PCPs are nurse practitioners, my favorite of whom has a doctorate in nursing, and sometimes sees "peedies" as well. I'm very glad to report that a lot of the kids who are seen in our clinic are often there to get their shots.

Jen has Puce Sarcasms's avatar

Welcome back to not naming your child until they were two years old, because there is a good chance they won't make it that far.

I'd like to show these fucking "parents" some of the graveyards I have seen, with headstone after headstone that just says baby or infant on them.

Goddamn this time line

Lynn Veit's avatar

They'd claim that either the gravestones or the graveyards were "faked, just like the moon landings."

I'm not sure about other regions of the country, but there are spots in the rural Deep South, particularly Appalachia, where suspicion of modern medicine seems to be baked into the community itself.

Suspicion of medicine, suspicion of any "newfangled" technology (like moon landings, or anything connected with space exploration, etc.), suspicion of "the gubmint." All these have been handed down from one generation to the next.

As for how this gets changed, I have no idea.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Gee, sorry to interrupt your grieving process, but depraved indifference really can't wait.

RRJKR's avatar

Forget about science, put your trust in Bronze Age mythology.

RRJKR's avatar

The whole of the medical profession is mired in outdated tradition.

Vesper's avatar

This is as stupid as the whole free birth movement:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/nov/22/free-birth-society-linked-to-babies-deaths-investigation

It's astounding how all these 'I did my own research' folks hate the scientific method, science and scientists but then I guess that's how the stupid fascism do.

Lynn Veit's avatar

Well, modern medicine and big pharma just take your money, and the Free Birth Society just takes your money...and offers less.

According to Wiki:

"It has sold online courses, private consultations, and access to its closed Internet forum, and has produced podcasts and social media content.[1][9]"

Jen has Puce Sarcasms's avatar

then turn around and sue the hospitals

RRJKR's avatar

Stupid is the new cool

Permanently Confused@68's avatar

My mileage is the same as yours. My outrage at the sheer stupidity and corruption of Americans and politicians is so far over the top I don't even know where the top is anymore. There is not logic that works here; there is no critical thinking that works here; As an educated person with an analytical mind my entire body reacts on a cellular level when I see what these morons are doing. "Why didn't all kids die previously" and "got designed us wrong". Holy shit. Hell, a hundred years ago or so before dental hygiene people died of toothaches. Many civilizations threw their shit into the street. Science got us this here interweb thing... and all science builds on other science. All of it.

RRJKR's avatar

Stupid is the new cool

Hank Napkin's avatar

How does this fit with anything the Republicans claim? Focus on the Family? Jesus and those footprints in the sand? ProLife? Or are newborns meant to bootstrap their way past this?

Jen has Puce Sarcasms's avatar

Keep em poor, keep em ignorant, keep em desperate. That is how you control people.

BlueSpot's avatar

What is the Zenn diagram of those people who reject universal health care (and prevent everyone else in the US from having universal health care) and anti-vaxxers?

O

Hank Napkin's avatar

(Venn -- peace be upon you...🪷)

BlueSpot's avatar

It's been a long, exhausting day here. Funny thing is, I did a google search to make sure of the spelling, and it came up Zenn. Lol.

: )

Hank Napkin's avatar

My day? One word: Dentist. Anyway… Close enough so any reader would know exactly what was meant!

Lynn Veit's avatar

And it's appropriate. For the people in that Venn Diagram, Stoopit is their Zenn.

Demodocus's avatar

I was pregnant with my first child 13 years ago. This shit was and is horrifying, especially considering how many of these fools think vitamins cure everything else. But noooo, real docs recommend it for all newborns, so this particular dose must be sooooper ebil. Goddamn dolts.

Actually, the naturopath who sometimes came to the same yarn shop as me as the same time for stitch-and-gab asked if I was getting eldest the "shots" refering to both vit K and the hep shots. I said yep. She looked as horrified as if I said "and after this i'm gonna meander to that bar a block away and down 5 rum and cokes." Mr Demi is blind from congenital rubella, I'm deaf in one ear from scarlet fever. We're late xers from suburban Connecticut; this shit can happen to _anyone_, even a fucking Kennedy.

RNDM31's avatar

A darkly cynical take is these people are demonstrating the process of natural selection by making stupidity fatal enough to hamper the transmission of genes.

Unfortunately they achieve this by making it fatal to people who aren't themselves and have no say in the matter. What unspeakable little turds.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

That's one thing about the Darwin Awards. They're only awarded to people who take themselves out of the gene pool before reproducing.

RNDM31's avatar

Yup. This functionally achieves the same thing since getting your offspring killed before they themselves reproduce breaks the transmission chain all the same, and basically illustrates the selection pressures that produced effective parental care behaviour in the first place.

Doesn't make it any easier to witness ofc.

Suel J's avatar

This makes me want to cry. I hate to see it all coming back. Blindness due to birth infections. Brain bleeds that do not have to happen. Routine childhood immunization that prevents polio, tetanus, rubella measles, mumps, meningitis. The papilloma virus vaccine that reduces greatly the possibility of cervical cancer.

human being's avatar

Will adult children sue their parents for these choices?

Suel J's avatar

Not if they are dead.

𝔅𝔢𝔢𝔩𝔷𝔢𝔟𝔲𝔟𝔟𝔞's avatar

Has the funeral industry made massive contributions to the GOP that we don't know about?

(Just trying to follow the money, which is how Republican policy is best understood.)

Lynn Veit's avatar

He'll be a politician with a desire to be a mortician that will manifest as continuing the absolute destruction of any safety nets still left by then.

Also, this is the first photo I've seen where the DJT resemblance (esp. around the eyes) is this scary. I mean Scary.

Rosemary Orlandi's avatar

hopefully before he has a chance to try, trump will be a dirty fucking word.

Lynn Veit's avatar

Fingers crossed. Because he’s young enough to make several more generations of lives miserable if he accrues any kind of power. And in that photo, with that lack of human expression on his face is…unnerving to say the least.

Rosemary Orlandi's avatar

I wonder if he's as lame in the brain as more and Larry..

Lynn Veit's avatar

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

(stooge libelz!)

Old Man Yells at Cloud's avatar

To be a politician one must get elected to office. I am skeptical that he can rally the MAGAts. And since he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried (that's why you never hear him speak), media will not be friendly.

I expect he will grift like he is doing with the soda company that he did not attach his name to. It will be a quiet grift because the name Trump will be far too socially toxic. Uday and Qusay are too dumb to realize that and will end up polishing his car like Biff at the end of Back to the Future.

Lynn Veit's avatar

However....

Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber may be dumb as a box of rocks, but I get vibes of brute vindictiveness too. Barron may want to watch his back lest he meet with an unfortunate accident. Jealousy is a hell of a motive.

Agent of Chaotic Respite's avatar

They really and truly are a death cult.

motmelere's avatar

Eat your veggies! Herbivores are amazing at not bleeding out.