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I know Our Justin promised election reform Up Here, but for the life of me I don't understand WHY.

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Because of the Electoral College, candidates only campaign in a handful of swing states. If we went by popular vote for the Presidency, candidates would have to campaign in all 50 states to win.

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Real liberals kill themselves with guacamole.

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I've decided to make regular donations to the ACLU. I think they're going to have to do a majority of the heavy lifting on the Trump administration's ethical shitshow since the Republican Congress is going to look the other way.

Trump's money gives him an advantage in the courts, but, if you take that advantage away, his celebrity status means nothing when the two sides of a case are presented and considered. With enough donations, the ACLU will have the deep pockets to take on The Man.

I'm going to make those donations in Donald Trump's name also, too, because I know he'd want me to.

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Ohio passed a constitutional amendment in 2014 that sets up a bipartisan commission to redraw the Congressional districts using software more concerned with representation than safety. The first election we'll see the results of that will be 2022.

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"The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society..."

So is the Senate.

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And they could try to appeal to non-geographic groups. Minimum wage workers, for example.

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OK, you know how we had that one thread for stuff like this, and then we said that was the end? This is your warning that we're finished with post-election blame-throwing. Really and truly.

You don't have to sing Kumbayah, but this stuff is finished (and yes, that goes equally for people screaming at Bernie supporters, too).

-- Dok Zoom, Yr Friendly Neighborhood Comments Moderator

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Thanks for the warning, Dok, i flat missed reading that thread, but sure, I agree, I can stop on a dime. Done. Thanks for the link, so I catch up with the world.

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Smaller than when all the people unlawfully purged from the rolls by Republican officials are added back on.

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Doesn't Donnie want to get rid of "the lines around the states" anyway?

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or forgotten how, which can happen when the well-fed and wealthy forget that so many are struggling still, but the republicans had built an insurmountable wall of opposition to Obama - maybe the Trump idea of infusing money into infrastructure and winding down wars, things will improve. I do believe that Obama would have taken the same approach or had the same or similar proposals, but due to bigotry and greed and ideological stupidity, the Republicans voted stupidly against them.

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Jeez. Automatic revote for differences under 1 percent. It's not that hard.

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no, you are maybe attempting to read between the lines, but I can assure you that anything you read there is your perception, not my words.

SuperDelegates: unpledged delegates, including party leaders and elected officials, who are appointed by the party independently of the primaries' electoral process.

My problem is with the SuperDelegate raison d'etre : to prevent a grassroots candidate from getting national traction, ie to maintain the status quo, which is to preserve and protect the established power structure that redounds to the benefit of the donor class

if the Electoral College were abolished, the SuperDelegates would have no reason whatsoever to exist.

I don't begrudge Hillary her successes with the majority vote, I do begrudge the tools that the party has implemented, such as Super Delegates, which works to deny a fair election.

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Fuck the Electoral College, and the Trump University.

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Here in California Donald Trump would never have gotten more votes than he did. If the popular vote was the deciding factor there would be far fewer "protest" votes and that would have meant more votes for Clinton. I like the idea of states vowing to commit all electoral votes to the candidate with the most votes. The current system came into being because the Southern slave states had fewer voters than the Northern states and would have had little say in the presidential election. The South and less populous states continue to benefit from this outmoded system. It is true that the popular vote is likely to give more voice to the most populous states but that's how it should be. We're all /Americans and which ever candidates the most Americans want for president should be president.

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