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DemoCat's avatar

Republicans barely even try to gaslight the public about lining their pockets with borrowed taxpayer money anymore. They just claim the bill will goose the economy and oh, boy, you just watch the revenue pour in! Ok, yes, according to the egghead college grads at the economic and budget offices claiming the Big Bouncy Beautiful Balls Bill will add at least 2.5 to possibly even 4 trillion to our national debt, they are deepstate Trump haters who don’t tell you the bill will actually reduce the deficit by juicing the economy so very much. We promise. Who you gonna trust?

DemoCat's avatar

We keep wondering why maga voters support Republicans when they always reduce benefits for their own base. It’s not really that complicated. MAGA voters are both angry and misinformed. They consume misinformation and they thirst for it the way we thirst for justice, equality and democracy. They love any conspiracy theory, real or imagined. When no actual scandal involving Joe Biden materialized, such as Trump-level corruption, bribery, sexual abuse, etc., they go with the only one they can find - that Biden was old and incompetent and his staff concealed it from the public. This, despite daily reports of Biden’s aging, his misstatements, physical limitations, etc. Naturally his loyalists provided support, as you’d expect. What did maga want? Had Biden agreed to step down, his VP would have then been potus. It wouldn’t have suddenly made the Big Lie true, or freed all the Wayfair mole children, or any other absurd fantasy.

MAGA voters will always vote for people who take away their rights and benefits, and make their lives more costly. Because republicans pretend to be holy, and they tell delusional people that their delusions are real. Trump will add 2.5 trillion to the already bloated national debt. This, after DOGE created a diversion by firing hundreds of thousands and “saving” a few billion by cutting programs people needed. At least Musk is insane enough to call Trump a pedophile just days after being ejected from DC. MAGA must be downright confused right now. Do we still like EVs, or are they bad now? Are we still going to Mars, or is that off? Do we care if Trump and Epstein were tight? Do we care if we lose our Medicaid coverage or the economy crashes? Is Kid Rock drinking Bud Light now? Should Trump pardon Diddy? We don’t know, but at least there is another travel ban on foreigners.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Isn't it pathetic that people like Empty Gee still have to kiss Chump's ass when they're shitting on his bill by being required to call it by its proper name (or abbreviated), The One Big Beautiful Bill?

How utterly silly. How completely unserious. And degrading.

I'm sure that, at one time, Chump actually sat people down and showed them and told them what he would to do them if they didn't knuckle under, but, at this point, I think it's a Pavlovian reflex.

Spleen Victoria's avatar

My favourite part of Musk v. Trump has been their little bitch fight. I’m hoping for a real wig snatching if they get together in public again. Full on slap fight until one of them breaks a nail. Two narcissists enter, one narcissist leaves! Throw in the chair!

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Chairs require actual work, and they have people for that.

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Marcie. Do they really want torches, pitchforks, tumbrels, and guillotines? Seems that's what they're asking for.

Enter Ranting's avatar

This practice of voting on something without reading it has to end. It is beyond ridiculous.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Empty Gee will vote for the revision, find out that the part she absolutely wouldn't vote for was still in there, and complain she'd been told it had been taken out.

PuraVida's avatar

It's all tribal performative theater at this point.

Khavrinen's avatar

"House Reps who voted for it (and will have to vote for it again when it comes back from the Senate) are playing illiterate."

I'm not so sure that they're "playing".

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

If they really are as stupid as they appear to in real life, their staffs have to be stealing them blind.

DJ Teetop's avatar

Some people are saying that "Big Beautiful Bill" is also Mike Johnson's porn preference and the nomenclature is a ̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ workaround for Covenant Eyes

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Didn't that Lieutenant Governor down south spend some time at the peepshows with a Big Beautiful Bill?

Lionel “8647” Hutz's avatar

It is interesting when I have had a chance to drop in on MAGA media to hear their focus. They are, of course, ignoring things like the proven rapist president TACO's declining mental state, or his lackey's inability to answer simple questions before Congress (and the Dems should be ready as soon as they have some power to start asking for the "real people making decisions, not Bob Kennedy or Linda McMahon, to come and justify their cruelty), or the failing economy per se (at best, you get stuff like "the economy is great, but we need to pass the tax cuts so it is goosed before the mid-term and we don't get wiped out).

But what they are going on and on about are two things. There is a fight between the neo-cons who want to bomb Iran (having sold out almost every other belief they have to support Trump, this is the one thing they cling to) and the fascist right who thinks we are just doing the Jews bidding. The other fight, which is now accelerating because of Jean-Baptiste Emile Elon Zorg, is the fight between those backing the Blowjobs and Bribes for Billionaires bill because i) It's what dear leader wants, ii) it will give them all the power, iii) they are semi-literate and understand the damage that tariffs are doing, so they hope their tax cuts for TACO's cronies will cover some of that and those who think that i) they have been screaming about deficits for 50 years, maybe making them the highest ever in both terms of TACO isn't a great idea and ii) those who actually realize they may lose their elections when the people see that they put TACO and his cronies before America.

At some point when you promise everything to everyone, you promise nothing to anyone. While most Republicans have been happy with this and just doing the bidding of TACO, more and more are realizing that they will have to live with the consequences and are starting to be trapped in a box of TACO's own building that will damn them either way.

tehbaddr's avatar

OBBB! You're soaking in it Marge!

Richard S's avatar

Can she soak her head in it?

Lawyers, Guns 'n' Money's avatar

This is how it went down in the House when they voted for Trump's BBB.

Johnson: Just pass the flippin' thing (Covenant Eyes won't let me cuss). It doesn't matter what's in it. It doesn't matter if you hate it with every fiber of your being. Just punt it to the Senate and then go lie like your life depends on it in its defense.

PuraVida's avatar

When your primary support comes from Murdochs, Waltons, LinkIn execs and Bain Capital, it's hard to see where your centrist Democrats are not just Republican Lite.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Speaking of Bain Capital, who took my all-time favorite office supply store chain, Office America, stripped it for parts, left the carcass on the side of the road, and built Staples out of it, the Staples I am sometimes forced to go to is closed. Very suddenly. No notice.

ManchuCandidate's avatar

They (centrist weiners and billionaires) should eat Trump's shit

Stranger Than Friction's avatar

Link to Liz Warren office's report on what Phony Stark got for his money in the 2024 election, being put in charge of DOGE: https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/130_days_of_elon_musk_report.pdf

Ambiance Chaser's avatar

NYT

Breaking news: Trump and Musk attack each other in remarkable break

You can almost hear the Old Grey Lady fanning herself from the revery of turpitude . . .

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

He said Chump was on Epstein's list. It's reaching Dynasty-level catfight drama.

Let their next encounter be near a fountain or pool.

Patch's avatar

She probably has the vapors

Mr blob's avatar

OT: I know this is Ketamine Klyde blustering on his pretend friend box, so I’m not putting any actual stock in his usual bullshit

But if this is a confession, just come fully clean now

https://xcancel.com/brndxix/status/1930668545358127273?s=46&t=QTHD9GMfDGpAyfUoOmtJMw

ManchuCandidate's avatar

He's stupid/arrogant enough.