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Ward in Cali BOYCOTT CNN!'s avatar

NYC has a long history of that. Redevelopment of lower Manhattan was delayed for decades out of the futile hope that light industry would come back, some day.

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Sunnyinwyoming's avatar

Conversely, no cost, accessible birth control options naturally lead to an increase in quality of life. We should address the problem from both ends 🙂

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malsperanza's avatar

And long before it was rezoned for residential use, artists moved in anyway, which triggered a massive economic revival of the area.

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Enbastet's avatar

That sounds like opponents of raising the minimum wage saying that if people don't like a minimum wage they can quit and look for another job. It presumes options that are really not there.

Housing is the primary driver of inflation and even if rents come down they will be from a very high new level. Drivers can't just blithely move on.

Housing with parking is also more expensive, as any driver can attest.

We are talking about "affordable housing" that will be rendered carless. "Affordable" means low and low-middle income. These are not people with the widest choices.

My IMHO point is that this is a pie-in-the-sky approach to housing policy and it makes our side look really out-of-touch.

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Enbastet's avatar

Not when that conflicts with policy that acts against that.

Seriously - cars make lives easier and better. Cars can be made environmentally safer but as we do that I don't think that we should be solving the problem on the backs of people whose lives are already exhausting.

Your, well, mileage may differ...

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conti ben's avatar

That's what I'm saying...Improve lives and the rest follows...Just focus on THAT...Its win win...

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conti ben's avatar

I think I heard about that..

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conti ben's avatar

agree 100%...

same issue that plagued well meaning liberals in the 60s during the civil rights movement...It was "here's how we are going to 'help' you' instead of 'How can we healp'

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Wookie Monster's avatar

I think you’re confusing “supporting” bicycling and mass transit with “making them the only options available.” The latter is clearly not the intent of the legislature given that they are encouraging development at sites where is parking is available.

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sarafina's avatar

I think the fact California is making an effort is good. It will be modified as it is rolled out, as most things are. My understand is the current situation is untenable; something has to be done. Your love of the car may not be appropriate for other people's lives.

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sarafina's avatar

Have you paid any attention to ALL THE COVID deaths? That beings "population growth" right down.

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Seek's avatar

The new laws are state level and your local city can't stop you. You may have to fight them a bit but there are probably housing advocate lawyers who will help you. Take 'em to the woodshed! I've been working on one for my mother. The only way she will be able to stay in her house is if she can get an ADU and a renter to pay her way. I'm hoping to use it as an incentive/job perk for a home health aide

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sarafina's avatar

You seem to be willfully ignorant - or actively ignoring - a big problem in Africa is political instability. Famine is common, war more so. I don't know if we can help with peaceful initiatives, but supporting MEN in charge for decades like the late Robert Mugabe or Idi Amin because they were "against communism" was not helpful to the people in their countries.

Farmers can't farm if they are being shot at.

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Seek's avatar

That is only applicable if your development is in range of public transit, so they will be incentivized to ride bus/train/trolley not drive

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Seek's avatar

No, to get the density required under these laws multi family and multi level is required. They were talking about doing away with new single family developments until they rescind the housing emergency declaration. That didn't get past the building lobbyists

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Seek's avatar

Sadly, that whole Brexit thing isn't going to disappear with "better optics". If they can't get a decent narrative about how they're going to make the plan work they're still going to get unhappy markets. It's kinda baked in at this point. But I admit I'm just looking at it logically from thousands of mile away so ...

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