There are about 129 million people of Russian descent in the world. So, you hate them all because they're all bad people.?
Labelling groups and then ascribing to every one of them the same negative characteristics is the root of bigotry. Individuals should be judged by their own actions. And this guy really doesn't sound like a Russian anyway, nor was any evidence presented that he was controlled by the Russian mob.
To be punished severely for an accident is ridiculous. There was no intent to harm. He didn't choose to crash. I'd ask what the jury was thinking except that they clearly weren't.
At least the sentence is so horrible that it is attracting a lot of protest.
Who enforces the mandate? Do the police come into the courtroom and arrest the judge if he decides to ignore the mandate, and force him to obey the mandate? And if he refuses what then? Judges have unlimited power. They are not constrained by words or documents or law. They might get overturned on appeal but they can and do do anything they want all day every day.
Here’s an example : Eric Schmitt Missouri Republican AG has received a ruling from a Koch judge in Cole county giving him the authority to sue school districts and county health departments for having mask mandates.A judge, making a ruling exactly how he pleases, with no regard for law or morality or common sense really. And who’s gonna stop him? No one but a higher up judge. Maybe. Probably not though, they stick together.
Great version of that song, sung primarily by the wonderful Sandy Denny, who died way too early, and interestingly enough was released before Dylan's own version.
So finally I found a little more information. The truck company is a small one that owns 5 trucks. They had been cited before for drivers not speaking enough English, and inspection issues, including brakes (no real details). https://aldianews.com/artic...https://www.thedenverchanne...
"four counts of vehicular homicide, six counts of first-degree assault, 10 counts of attempted first-degree assault, four counts of careless driving causing death, two counts of vehicular assault and one count of reckless driving."Does that seem a bit repetitively redundant to you? It sure does to me. How is "four counts of vehicular homicide" different from "four counts of careless driving causing death"? If you've charged him for "careless driving causing death", doesn't "reckless driving" just feel like piling on?
Nobody should get century-long sentences. They serve no purpose. If they are that dangerous and cannot be reformed, they should be placed in a psych facility housing the criminally insane.
I happen to live near a major crossroads, where the major highway used to traverse the state, north to south, intersects the one used to access the coast. In addition, there’s the major road that leads to Raleigh. Near the crossroads is a community college and semi-driving training courses. We see the semi-truck version of student driver vehicles. They are practicing by navigating the roadways shared with abnormally high numbers of active semi-drivers, and tourists/travelers, and farm vehicles, and locals. My auto insurance drastically increased when we moved here, despite that it’s actually rural. And, there are abnormal numbers of accidents involving semis, construction vehicles, and single car accidents on country roads. Semis drive aggressively here, and regularly cause accidents due to carelessness and aggressive driving. So, I’m familiar with what that can look like, and how indifferent drivers can be about the risks. I’ve seen them texting and driving, driving with their left foot out the window, and consistently they try to tailgate me aggressively while I’m driving my tiny clown car Honda Civic, in traffic, with nowhere to go.
It sounds like this man probably shouldn’t have been certified to drive that truck. Many shouldn’t. But, they need drivers, and that’s that, apparently. It’s not okay to panic when driving a weaponized wall on wheels, down curvy downhill slopes, the type that have the emergency runways for trucks with braking issues. Panic is unacceptable. Do we think it’s okay when cops panic? They are obligated to keep their shit together under duress, because they have greater responsibility and can do more damage. I watched the footage. I saw other opportunities for him to attempt to slow his acceleration and to signal other vehicles to stay clear. He didn’t take them, just as he didn’t take the emergency ramp. He should have felt obligated to flip that truck, or even hit the semi on the side of the road, before ever driving it into cars in an intersection. Cars are tiny and no match for a runaway semi. The only way to know if his speed at impact was due to incline is to know the weight of the truck, the angle of incline, the amount of friction and drag, any resistance the brakes or engine may have still been applying, and account for wind and swerving as well. Dunno if anyone bothered with that. It certainly seems like the company is partially at fault, both for poor maintenance, and for employing drivers who fail to employ basic protocols during emergency situations, that they are trained to follow.
All that being said, he shouldn’t be spending over a century in jail, period. Wreckless/careless indifference? It’s not the same as intentional malicious murder. And responsibility needs to be shared with his employer. He’s reformable. He can be banned from driving too. Instead, we will pay to keep him in a cage until he dies? Is that a deterrent? It’s certainly not justice.
Jurors aren’t told the possible sentencing prior to making a finding of guilty/not guilty, and they are also instructed not to look up this information on their own. So, I think it’s highly unlikely that they knew their convictions would result in a 110 year sentence (and it apparently wouldn’t have if the judge had discretion in sentencing, particularly if the sentences were allowed to run concurrently).
The real issue for me is why the prosecutors overcharged the hell out of this case.
I understand that you are a union person. I used to be in the UAW when I was working, but not in anything having to do with autos, ironically.
But I would've never critised people in my profession who for various reasons were unable to unionise. What were they supposed to do? Quit work, even when there was no other union facility around, or no other union they could join?
It's really quite nasty the way you are demonising this poor man who is being sentenced to an inhuman number of years in jail when the company that hired him is clearly partly at fault.
In my union days we would've never treated people who were unable to join our union or any other. It is just wrong and inhumane - THAT is how you are acting.
THIS^^^
There are about 129 million people of Russian descent in the world. So, you hate them all because they're all bad people.?
Labelling groups and then ascribing to every one of them the same negative characteristics is the root of bigotry. Individuals should be judged by their own actions. And this guy really doesn't sound like a Russian anyway, nor was any evidence presented that he was controlled by the Russian mob.
What is your evidence for that? Mandatory minimums are, by definition, mandatory.
To be punished severely for an accident is ridiculous. There was no intent to harm. He didn't choose to crash. I'd ask what the jury was thinking except that they clearly weren't.
At least the sentence is so horrible that it is attracting a lot of protest.
Who enforces the mandate? Do the police come into the courtroom and arrest the judge if he decides to ignore the mandate, and force him to obey the mandate? And if he refuses what then? Judges have unlimited power. They are not constrained by words or documents or law. They might get overturned on appeal but they can and do do anything they want all day every day.
Here’s an example : Eric Schmitt Missouri Republican AG has received a ruling from a Koch judge in Cole county giving him the authority to sue school districts and county health departments for having mask mandates.A judge, making a ruling exactly how he pleases, with no regard for law or morality or common sense really. And who’s gonna stop him? No one but a higher up judge. Maybe. Probably not though, they stick together.
Appropriate, sadly
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Great version of that song, sung primarily by the wonderful Sandy Denny, who died way too early, and interestingly enough was released before Dylan's own version.
Higher in the thread they found that it's a small company with only 5 trucks but multiple prior safety violations, including brakes and maintenance.
So finally I found a little more information. The truck company is a small one that owns 5 trucks. They had been cited before for drivers not speaking enough English, and inspection issues, including brakes (no real details). https://aldianews.com/artic...https://www.thedenverchanne...
I finally found something with the name, and that it's a small company (5 trucks).https://www.thedenverchanne...
"four counts of vehicular homicide, six counts of first-degree assault, 10 counts of attempted first-degree assault, four counts of careless driving causing death, two counts of vehicular assault and one count of reckless driving."Does that seem a bit repetitively redundant to you? It sure does to me. How is "four counts of vehicular homicide" different from "four counts of careless driving causing death"? If you've charged him for "careless driving causing death", doesn't "reckless driving" just feel like piling on?
Nobody should get century-long sentences. They serve no purpose. If they are that dangerous and cannot be reformed, they should be placed in a psych facility housing the criminally insane.
I happen to live near a major crossroads, where the major highway used to traverse the state, north to south, intersects the one used to access the coast. In addition, there’s the major road that leads to Raleigh. Near the crossroads is a community college and semi-driving training courses. We see the semi-truck version of student driver vehicles. They are practicing by navigating the roadways shared with abnormally high numbers of active semi-drivers, and tourists/travelers, and farm vehicles, and locals. My auto insurance drastically increased when we moved here, despite that it’s actually rural. And, there are abnormal numbers of accidents involving semis, construction vehicles, and single car accidents on country roads. Semis drive aggressively here, and regularly cause accidents due to carelessness and aggressive driving. So, I’m familiar with what that can look like, and how indifferent drivers can be about the risks. I’ve seen them texting and driving, driving with their left foot out the window, and consistently they try to tailgate me aggressively while I’m driving my tiny clown car Honda Civic, in traffic, with nowhere to go.
It sounds like this man probably shouldn’t have been certified to drive that truck. Many shouldn’t. But, they need drivers, and that’s that, apparently. It’s not okay to panic when driving a weaponized wall on wheels, down curvy downhill slopes, the type that have the emergency runways for trucks with braking issues. Panic is unacceptable. Do we think it’s okay when cops panic? They are obligated to keep their shit together under duress, because they have greater responsibility and can do more damage. I watched the footage. I saw other opportunities for him to attempt to slow his acceleration and to signal other vehicles to stay clear. He didn’t take them, just as he didn’t take the emergency ramp. He should have felt obligated to flip that truck, or even hit the semi on the side of the road, before ever driving it into cars in an intersection. Cars are tiny and no match for a runaway semi. The only way to know if his speed at impact was due to incline is to know the weight of the truck, the angle of incline, the amount of friction and drag, any resistance the brakes or engine may have still been applying, and account for wind and swerving as well. Dunno if anyone bothered with that. It certainly seems like the company is partially at fault, both for poor maintenance, and for employing drivers who fail to employ basic protocols during emergency situations, that they are trained to follow.
All that being said, he shouldn’t be spending over a century in jail, period. Wreckless/careless indifference? It’s not the same as intentional malicious murder. And responsibility needs to be shared with his employer. He’s reformable. He can be banned from driving too. Instead, we will pay to keep him in a cage until he dies? Is that a deterrent? It’s certainly not justice.
I didn't know you were omniscient, and/or the prosecutor on the case.
Jurors aren’t told the possible sentencing prior to making a finding of guilty/not guilty, and they are also instructed not to look up this information on their own. So, I think it’s highly unlikely that they knew their convictions would result in a 110 year sentence (and it apparently wouldn’t have if the judge had discretion in sentencing, particularly if the sentences were allowed to run concurrently).
The real issue for me is why the prosecutors overcharged the hell out of this case.
I understand that you are a union person. I used to be in the UAW when I was working, but not in anything having to do with autos, ironically.
But I would've never critised people in my profession who for various reasons were unable to unionise. What were they supposed to do? Quit work, even when there was no other union facility around, or no other union they could join?
It's really quite nasty the way you are demonising this poor man who is being sentenced to an inhuman number of years in jail when the company that hired him is clearly partly at fault.
In my union days we would've never treated people who were unable to join our union or any other. It is just wrong and inhumane - THAT is how you are acting.