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BlueSpot's avatar

Donald Trump has broken the American hegemony. Maybe this is a good thing in the long run. Let Canada take the wheel for awhile, they're a much better people than we are.

But, whichever hegemony forms now that the United States is not longer the leader of the free world, must demand that the US join in all of the world organization, including the International Criminal Court, and ratify all international treaties, such as The Convention Against Torture, and do so without any reservations, and bring an end to fascism, racism, bigotry, and misogyny as a state or national policy, before being allowed to trade with any member of the new hegemony, or to be allowed a place at the table with the rest of the civilized world.

Andy Reed's avatar

Bravissimo to Mark Carney. Thank god Canadian elections were held after ours last November, so the Canadian voters awoke to the reality of a fascist next door, and turned their backs on the right-winger running against him. Brilliant speech, especially because of its straightforward language, lack of rhetorical flourishes, and honesty.

insert_something_creative's avatar

It's refreshing to hear a speech from a world leader that makes sense and isn't deranged. As sad as it is to say, he's also 100% correct. The world needs to move on without us as we are clearly no longer reliable no matter what happens in the midterms and beyond without major reforms to our system of government (like a national ban on gerrymandering, eliminating the Electoral College, expanding the Supreme Court, reversing Citizens United and getting money out of politics, etc.).

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. This is very sad. I was born right in the middle of the baby boom. I didn't own any homes until I married my beloved; now I'm co-owner of the pied-à-nuage. We rent our east village tenement apartment. Bessent is (a) delusional, or (b) only knows vulture capitalists.

Thom Moon's avatar

It needed to be said and I'm glad Prime Minister Carney had the guts to say it.

I wish I qualified to move to Canada but a) I don't have a job there and b) my French is miserable. I took six years of it in grade and high school and a year in college and all I can say is "Je ne comprends pas." That's "I don't understand." I've been told I say it beautifully, for what that's worth . . . .

OrdinaryJoe's avatar

I was in a meeting. I heard that Hair Furor TACO'd on invading Greenland. Retreat and call it a victory. Of course, until the next crisis.

Wookiee Monster's avatar

America will be remembered as the first civilization to commit suicide. Even Rome survived the madness of Caligula and the depredations of Nero.

And it’s not about the price of eggs any more than 2016 was about “economic anxiety.” Economically, things over the past decade haven’t been nearly as bad as they were during the Weimar Republic.

America did this to itself because a demented con man and his insane backs were able to tap into deep-seated resentment and panic over the fact that white men would no longer automatically be in charge of things.

Dorothea is a Democrat's avatar

Evan is right. Mark Carney is right. We need to understand that we can't go back. The oligarchs are in charge and they're not going to relinquish power. They will probably exercise their power more judiciously, quietly and subtly if liberals regain control, but they'll still push their agendas. We are at the beginning of the resource battles that will only get worse as the resources become scarcer.

Bitter Scribe's avatar

This is profoundly depressing.

I was taught as a child that America was the world's good guy. But as I came of age, America was pissing away, in Vietnam, all the goodwill it had built up in World War II and the early Cold War. This process continued, in fits and starts, all my life, until it culminated in Carney's speech at Davos.

That speech was the eulogy for America as the world's good guy.

VERY sad.

DJ Teetop's avatar

"We feel like the divide in American politics these days — especially in the Democratic Party and on the Left, largely about Democrats who don’t understand/can’t accept/emotionally process that we’re never going back to the way things were, vs. those grownups who do."

OK, we're not going back, but...the Left? The American Left? The Democratic Party is the only vehicle we have, the Left is shitheads who wallow in unearned moral superiority. The only debate is what's going on in the Democratic Party. If you want to say will it be the progressive wing of the Democratic Party or the old guard, fine, but the Left is fanfic.

jaspersdad's avatar

Your two party system is one of the sources of the current shit show. Everything, everything, has devolved into an all or nothing, zero sum, goat rodeo.

DJ Teetop's avatar

Yes, but show me who on the Left knows shit about fuck

jaspersdad's avatar

There are many, if you choose to look for them. Zohran Mamdani for one.

DJ Teetop's avatar

Yes, the Mayor who is a Democrat.

jaspersdad's avatar

Far left of the current gaggle of corporate centrists.

TalentNotAutotune's avatar

America's Hitler or one of his minions said something recently to the effect of "Just because you were the first to stick your flag there doesn't mean you own it", meaning Denmark doesn't "own" Greenland for FLAG reasons.

OK, then I guess that means the American flag flying on the moon means nothing and if the Chinese make it there, they have just as much claim to it as the USA does.

I betcha America's Hitler would not agree with that.

jaspersdad's avatar

I'm instantly reminded of Eddy Izzard - Do you Have a Flag?

https://youtu.be/uEx5G-GOS1k

Cincinnatus's avatar

TACO:

Trump Backs Off Greenland Tariff Threat, Claiming 'Future Deal' But Providing No Specifics

President Donald Trump said he won't impose a promised tariff increases on European countries starting in February if a new deal with Greenland can be "consummated." "Based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutte, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic Region," Trump posted on his Truth Social platform Wednesday. "This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America, and all NATO Nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the Tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect on February 1st." Trump did not provide specifics as to what the "solution, if consummated," will be. {HuffPost}

andrea's avatar

He is so fucking stupid.

Jude's avatar

It is disconcerting to hear that the president is flirting with military actions to acquire Greenland for the United States. One can see that having 17 U.S. military bases there and a treaty granting access to Greenland’s resources would clearly not be enough to satisfy U.S. security concerns. And isn’t it silly to quibble over whether the Nobel Peace Prize Board is independent of the Norwegian government? And whether Norway is really different from Denmark, or Iceland from Greenland? Duh! Scandinavia! Frozen! But the very best thing is learning that, before being snubbed for the Peace Prize for all the war stopping and bringing people of all kinds together, Trump was Purely Focused on Peace. So, we kind of misjudged him. The bad part is that the world didn’t pay enough attention, or give him credit, and now he has to tour with the Department of War.

Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

Let's not forget, those eight wars he stopped is now cemented in his brain. It's as true to him as the sun coming up in the morning.

Erisian's avatar

"Canadian PM Mark Carney Declares Flame Of American Global Era Extinguished"

The Fulvous Fuckwad took his teeny tiny crotch mushroom in both his teeny tiny hands and pissed on the flame to put it out, then turned around and covered the torch with explosive diarrhea.

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Waffle McWafflersdatter's avatar

I'm just so furious every day, to the point of tears, because this is exactly what Putin's plan was. Destroy the last world superpower so he could jockey for supremacy with other shitty autocrats and terrorize Europe. And it fucking worked because our people are so goddamn stupid.

Mr Beeep's avatar

It is confusing, there is ice in Greenland and green in Iceland. They weren’t thinking of senile syphilis brained pedophiles when they came up with the names.

Whar DEI????