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Makes sense.

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So instead of waiting for a teenage boy to get hungry, these geniuses decided to barge in and make this kid's suicide-by-cop fantasies real. I can never understand how supposedly adult cops can't seem to do what the rest of us would do by instinct. Wait. Talk. Wait some more.

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Okay not a sportsball guy but that bat looks ginormous did they shrink over time?

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Maybe a counselor could have talked this kid down, maybe not. He could have been genuinely very dangerous. But since we have no indication at the moment that anyone tried de-escalating, we won't ever know. That's what is so hard for me.

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White high school girls. Black ones tend to get thrown around a bit.

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Ohio's an open carry state. Just don't be Black, and 12, and carrying a replica toy gun. That shit don't fly with the po-po.

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Total commitment that way

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Did the school pick up the gun, aim it and fire it and shoot somebody with it? No? A kid INSIDE the school did? Then it was a kid shooting with a gun, not a school shooting! How many times do I have to go over this? Forever? Nice.

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He was barricaded in the bathroom according to them. That alone should buy them time for de-esculation. It's not like the kid could come out guns a-blazing without dismantling the barricade.

They didn't seem interested. His life is forfeit, and these highly paid and highly trained officers get the victory lap, no questions asked. "I'm the good guy with the gun!"/s

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That's because they didn't have Petty Officer Trump on the scene. Just ask him.

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The documentary "Do not resist" shows video of the training that a lot of officers get. The training makes it very clear the officers are "us" and literally everyone else is "them". I'm trying to be patient and wait for details but everything we know about policing nowadays is that cops first resort is shooting.

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Oh, FFS.

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Or on the spectrum, or deaf.

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There are legitimate reasons to own guns in the home. Here's a story, happened on my niece's farm.

Her husband was working in the barn, heard the horses getting very noisy. Ran out, a couple of big dogs were running the horses. He got his gun, started shooting, the dogs ran. One of their mares had broken both her front legs, and, terrified, was trying to run on the broken bones. He had to put her down immediately.

Without the gun, would have taken a lot longer to stop the dogs, and it's possible they would have been dangerous to him, excited as they were. Several more horses could very easily have been injured. Without the gun, that horse would have been in agony for the at minimum hour it would have taken for him to get back to the house, call a vet, and the vet to get there.

Not everyone lives in the city.

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part of me wonders if this was the outcome the kid was hoping for - which makes it no less tragic

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that was my thought too - it seems he wasn't looking to hurt fellow students

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