312 Comments
User's avatar
Pm Deering's avatar

Wait... how could someone who left the White House in 2017 possibly have been talking in the course of their job to people who were on the phone call with Zelensky? I mean, if they had left the WH, wouldn't they have been working in a completely different building? I think DJT or some other lamebrain thinks they have figured it out, but is wrong. That manboy should be shunned and shamed either way.

Expand full comment
Tosca's avatar

...or maybe they don't. Some "perps" from the show allege the producers strong armed them into signing releases, by insinuating the cops would go harder on them if they didn't. Some people straight up deny they signed anything, or they were seriously under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or mentally ill. Cops sounds exploitative as fuck. https://www.topic.com/runni...

Expand full comment
UncleTravelingMatt's avatar

I gather you've never been a PD on chomo patrol.

Expand full comment
Tosca's avatar

Yep, what we have here is witness intimidation. If Trump's Traitors can out the whistleblower, his life is going to become hell. Maybe there are others with incriminating testimony who are watching to see what will happen if they talk. If Trump can shit on the whistleblower, they might keep their mouths shut.

Also, they need to smear the individual's reputation and make out his testimony is a politically inspired fiction.

Expand full comment
UncleTravelingMatt's avatar

Where We Mow One, We Mow All.

Expand full comment
Malcolm Campbell's avatar

They just want a name. It doesn't have to be the right name. Because once you get a name and a face you can start attacking that name and face and discredit the investigation. Truth matters little to these assholes, just the appearance of truth.

Expand full comment
SophieTylenol's avatar

The whistleblower might still have friends in the WH who conveyed their concerns to him, I guess? I’m guessing that how the GOP is justifying this. Otherwise the timeline doesn’t add up at all.

Not that this all isn’t complete immoral bullshit, of course.

Expand full comment
SophieTylenol's avatar

Dean Baquet v. Marty Baron is no contest at all. WaPo forever.

Expand full comment
SophieTylenol's avatar

Can I withhold my taxes until we have a new president?

Expand full comment
Come here a minute's avatar

Why are they afraid to call a red herring to testify? Do they think the fish knows too much?

Expand full comment
Hesavebread!'s avatar

This may have been mentioned downthread, but: "has executed a full face-turn". Going from being the good guy (the face) to the bad guy (the heel) is a heel-turn in wrasslin'.

Expand full comment
Crip Dyke, ABOLISH THE POLICE's avatar

It also didn't help that I went to law school in Canada.

Growing up in the US and doing undergrad there while being legally interested and nerdy gave me a lot, and Canadian law schools actually use a lot of international cases as examples of this principle or that (we used a US case in crim on the definition of a "vehicle" very early in my 1L year just to get folks up to speed on how you can't always trust that the plain meaning of a word is the legal meaning - in that case from the 20s or 30s, a boat was not a vehicle but the decision hadn't been made about airplanes yet & we were reading the arguments), but of course that's not the same as studying in a US law school.

So I'm not ignorant...completely. But not anything like a practicing US lawyer either.

ETA: I found the case we read. I was curious, so I looked it up: McBoyle v. United States, 283 U.S. 25, 27 (1931), considering and reversing McBoyle v. United States, 43 F.2d 273, 274 (10th Cir. 1930). Turns out the term requiring further definition was "motor vehicle" not just "vehicle" but otherwise I remembered it pretty well.

Expand full comment
Amelia ZC's avatar

Buster Keaton clip all the yess!

Expand full comment
@anathema_device@bne.social's avatar

you fucking suck

Expand full comment
MinneMary's avatar

I hadn't thought of that. Great point

Expand full comment
redsevers's avatar

Syria is ruled by an opthamaligist, I hear.

Expand full comment