I assume that they are biding their time at the Justice Dept for a reason, but last time I checked, forging a government document for the purpose of defrauding the govt...it's a crime, isn't it? If I pretend to be a cop, that's a crime. If I pretend to be a health inspector, that's a crime, right? How is this different?
I get frustrated with Garland as well. But I've come to realize that he never moves unless close to 100% sure of the outcome. If I were these folks, I would be worried.
So one point here is that Pence would seem to have been plugging ratholes and tightening scuppers during the normal ceremonial planning process, arguing that he was at no time much interested in couping with tfg, stories of how Dan Quale saved him and us from the wishy-washy notwithstanding.
So Mike Pence just went from "passively refused to treason" to "pro-actively worked to *prevent* treason"? He's actually going to end up with a *positive* legacy??? Mike Pence is a goddamn HERO OF DEMOCRACY????
The world is a strange and fearsome place these days.
So Pence gets a cookie for doing the only legal thing he could do. Good for him.
That still leaves hundreds of republicans complicit in the effort to steal the election from the American people.
And IANAL, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t forgery still a crime in America? These documents weren’t just printed out for funzees. They were purported to be official election documents, signed and notarized, and then sent to the National Archives.
I’ve been willing to give Garland the benefit of the doubt that this shit takes time based on the principle of, if you shoot at the orange king, you’d better not miss.
Consequences. If we learned nothing else from Cameron Crowe’s Vanilla Sky, we leaned about “consequences.” This “alternate” elector shit-scam isn’t a far cry from fake ballots, which is clearly election fraud, for which the penalty for black women is years in prison. So for white men, who know precisely what they are doing by filing fake certificates to claim they are the rightful “electors” with the power to ignore millions of votes? It’s time for the fuckers who fucked around to find out.
Creating fake ballots = federal crime. One fake ballot can result in jail. A fake certificate of electors has far greater potential to throw a monkey wrench in the democracy machine. These clowns were emboldened by orange foolius, just as the foot soldiers on 1/6 were. They failed. Time to pay the fiddler.
“the goober in the middle with the lavish locks is Michael McDonald”. Mullet Man is the new GOP superhero?
"And then you will apologize"
I assume that they are biding their time at the Justice Dept for a reason, but last time I checked, forging a government document for the purpose of defrauding the govt...it's a crime, isn't it? If I pretend to be a cop, that's a crime. If I pretend to be a health inspector, that's a crime, right? How is this different?
I get frustrated with Garland as well. But I've come to realize that he never moves unless close to 100% sure of the outcome. If I were these folks, I would be worried.
So one point here is that Pence would seem to have been plugging ratholes and tightening scuppers during the normal ceremonial planning process, arguing that he was at no time much interested in couping with tfg, stories of how Dan Quale saved him and us from the wishy-washy notwithstanding.
So Mike Pence just went from "passively refused to treason" to "pro-actively worked to *prevent* treason"? He's actually going to end up with a *positive* legacy??? Mike Pence is a goddamn HERO OF DEMOCRACY????
The world is a strange and fearsome place these days.
Yes, but there is a bit of a melanin and religion difference between the two which makes one crowd justified in their actions.
So Pence gets a cookie for doing the only legal thing he could do. Good for him.
That still leaves hundreds of republicans complicit in the effort to steal the election from the American people.
And IANAL, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t forgery still a crime in America? These documents weren’t just printed out for funzees. They were purported to be official election documents, signed and notarized, and then sent to the National Archives.
I’ve been willing to give Garland the benefit of the doubt that this shit takes time based on the principle of, if you shoot at the orange king, you’d better not miss.
But seriously, get off your ass!
Ta, Liz. I look terrific in a tiara.
I nominate this guy to play Mike Lindell when they make the Mr. Pillow movie.
tell you what.
jesus.
One Michael McDonald sang "What a Fool Believes". The one in this article is living it.
Consequences. If we learned nothing else from Cameron Crowe’s Vanilla Sky, we leaned about “consequences.” This “alternate” elector shit-scam isn’t a far cry from fake ballots, which is clearly election fraud, for which the penalty for black women is years in prison. So for white men, who know precisely what they are doing by filing fake certificates to claim they are the rightful “electors” with the power to ignore millions of votes? It’s time for the fuckers who fucked around to find out.
Creating fake ballots = federal crime. One fake ballot can result in jail. A fake certificate of electors has far greater potential to throw a monkey wrench in the democracy machine. These clowns were emboldened by orange foolius, just as the foot soldiers on 1/6 were. They failed. Time to pay the fiddler.
Looking at that picture above, one cannot spell fascist without "cis" and "fat"
So they could never be involved in anything involving voting.