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Furiouser and Furiouser's avatar

I read the statement from Matthew Van Houten, the DA. He seemed a little defensive, but did at least avoid the snide tone Cornell used.

Van Houten’s statement leaned heavily on Jane Doe’s account that she did ketamine willingly and wasn’t forced to do so. Because if you willingly ingest incapacitating drugs, you might as well list your vagina in the “free stuff” section of FB marketplace I guess?

Also, the DA huffed, every time Doe asked one or more of the SEVEN MEN RAPING HER to stop, they very considerately stopped! (So what if they resumed raping her a few minutes later, taking a quick break to alert the group chat?)

Also a football player at LSU, also the man on the United flight, also good Christ.

beb's avatar

This seems to be another case of "Boys will be boys" and "I'd hate to ruin their future success with another ugly word like 'rape.'"

Mira on the Wall's avatar

First observation: These men have a non-zero chance of being President Donald J. Trump's esteemed guests at the next State of the Union.

Second observation: Cornell's response implies Jane Doe is a) lying, and b) actively suppressing other victims' reports. This does not engender confidence in their administrative culture.

Third: The screenshot of the group chat is devastating in itself. Thinking about dozens of men shrugging it off is sickening.

This is how the Epstein class and culture maintains its existence: It relies on many, many people to turn away from reality in favor of a smoother, tidier path. From campus cops and campus administration to social circles and employers, it relies on so many people to do the bare minimum, and then rationalize it to each other.

rawrtigerlily's avatar

Seems like maybe we need laws and official college policies that rape is a crime that gets *automatically* reported to the real police. No leaving it up to the discretion of people who have barely any formal police training to decide whether it's a serious crime or not.

jaspersdad🇨🇦🇪🇺's avatar

Name and shame them and take away their degrees. It’s appalling that they were allowed to graduate.

Matthew Ingalls, Jonathan Newell, Winston Lee, Gillio Lopes, Diego Sarabia, Scott Norris, Scott Kretzschmar

devourerofpancakes's avatar

So, none of them were actually expelled? That seems wrong. I know this isn't the point, but supplying illegal drugs itself should be reason to expel a student.

oscarphile's avatar

Wait a minute! How can you be so cruel, spreading their names around? Suppose some Manhattan finance corporation or law firm sees your post? It might affect their job application, starting salary $225K!

jaspersdad🇨🇦🇪🇺's avatar

AOC calls out Cornell University and shares her message to sexual assault survivors: “The fact that Jane Doe, that survivor, lost her education… and those men were protected by an institution and granted an Ivy League Education — never again.”

ResistanceFictionistaBlondeIQ's avatar

Won't someone please think of the donors?

Brianna Amore's avatar

Oh look turns out a little public shaming actually does work. This case has been burning up the social media feeds for the past few days now and the outrage is FIERCE. Those 7 boys (I hesitate to call them men) are being suitably raked through the coals for their actions and I hope they never find a moment's peace for the rest of their miserable lives.

marydn's avatar

So DA Van Houton thinks that when a person "admits to taking drugs and alcohol voluntarily and with knowledge" that means they are capable of giving consent? Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't it already been established that someone who is drunk/high is not capable of giving consent? Did we go back in time while I wasn't paying attention? What a fucking moron.

UncleTravelingMatt's avatar

People who voluntarily consume drugs and alcohol to the extent she reported are not fantastic witnesses. I suspect DA Van Houton was trying to avoid saying that.

Pauly2coffees's avatar

Everyone involved is now in CYA mode.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

Except Jane Doe, who is quite courageous.

Pauly2coffees's avatar

There are some brave souls who will force us to face our shame.

Fifth Dentist's avatar

OT

GOP candidate repeatedly demands lynching of Obama — then rushes to delete posts

-- https://www.rawstory.com/bo-french-texas-2677951961/

Well, thank Dog he didn't take a photo of "86 44"written in seashells on the beach. You can get in a lot of trouble for that, right?

Edit: I bet Fox News is all over this 24/7 demanding that every Republican candidate is complicit and must repeatedly denounce those statements.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

"The penalty for treason used to be death. Even for a former president. #HangEmHigh," French wrote.

I will never in a million years understand Texas.

oscarphile's avatar

"If Obama doesn't want to be hung for treason, he shouldn't have had a Black father"

Land Shark 🇺🇦 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

OT: Orangini is going on the road the bestow the Orangini Electoral Kiss of Death® all over the red state republicans. Have at it, Donnie!

jaspersdad🇨🇦🇪🇺's avatar

Sleepy old man accuses Canada of being one of the worst countries on Earth.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mwlyu3iy7c2b

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

"They want to have a deal with us," Trump said of Canada. "They call us all the time."

"Do you have Prince Albert in the can?" they always begin.

Dorothea is a Democrat's avatar

He hates the monster that he himself created, Mark Carney.

Fifth Dentist's avatar

Like I said, all PAB had to do was fuck off and golf for four years and do nothing else while basking in Biden's improving economy that would have continued improving barring someone doing something stupid.

That's all the fucking idiot had to do. He could have earned accolades for shit he had nothing to do with.

But noo-ooooooo. He had to put his economic brain farts into action. And cement his place as the worst president ever.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

It's almost like someone, let's say the Heritage Foundation, had a plan, let's call it Project 2025, to make the most of the next Useful Idiot who came along.

Fifth Dentist's avatar

To be fair to the Heritage Foundation, what are the odds of someone that goddamn stupid appearing within another 250 years? If the country is around that long. Which I wouldn't give good odds for.

They saw PAB's potential and pushed the gas to the pedal.

coco lurks from home's avatar

Look, campus police are busy. Those schools are absolutely crawling with brown and black kids in hoodies.

Pauly2coffees's avatar

Getting drunk students back to the dorms.

Fifth Dentist's avatar

Those parking tickets don't write themselves.

CzechJournalists's avatar

hey, UTPD will even arrest a Heisman trophy winner (i worked with his mom).

Hobbes's avatar

Probably even some anti-genocide protestors, also, too.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

Daring to camp on the quad in protest earns an automatic beating and arrest, they've been told.

Land Shark 🇺🇦 🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

And let's not get started on those peaceniks!

zuludaddy (seamonkey!)'s avatar

I am so very fucking glad to have the center square serve up something less horrific than this

which is to say yrrrr

smoking lamp is lit, good god!

Baconzgood's avatar

Don's "big announcement" was actually business as usual in the steel industry.

Next week he will have a big announcement that you can untangle your bed head with some Dawn shampoo and gentle combing in a hot shower.

Sk8erChoi's avatar

I'm willing to bet he never washes his hair. Just hair dye and gel. It's like putting down successive layers of linoleum over dirty floors, rather than actually cleaning and maintaining them.

Baconzgood's avatar

That's why his bathroom is carpeted. So no one can tell.