Of course they wanna fund it through the election. Then the second they get re-elected for saving our farm! they will cut it like a badly tailored suit.
Seen this movie before.
Also, why does the military /and veterans programs/ run out first? Thought they supported the troops?
The idea was that everybody, including the Democrats, would have to support the appropriation bills on Jan. 19 or else the troops wouldn't get their paychecks, but then that bit of emotional blackmail would be off the table for the February showdown on funding Pete Buttigieg and Green Energy and Woke Education and Welfare Queens and all those other departments the Repubs would be happy to shut down.
Then, the Democrats said they would go along with Johnson's "laddered CR" if they could make some teensy edits, and he said fine. The bill they ended up passing moves Defense and some other stuff (like their precious Border Patrol!) to the February tier, not the January tier as originally planned. Johnson does not seem to have realized that this spoiled the whole gamesmanship that had been planned. A lot of Republicans did not realize it until the thing had gone through, and now they are furious.
On 10/5/23, CDC figures were released showing that primary cause of death among children 1-19 in years 2020 & 2021 was firearms, factoring in homicide, suicide and unintentional events. In a two-minute vote on the House floor this morning, the office that compiled those stats was defunded.
It's easy to bitch and moan from the cheap seats, when you know that the thing is going to happen regardless of your bloviating. It's something else entirely when you personally will be -- and will be *seen* to be -- personally responsible for an utterly avoidable catastrophe.
The next one cannot happen fast enough, although I'm sure the next one will be worse. I'm not sure how, but my expectations for this sad country have become even lower than they were when Saint Ronnie was elected.
This whole thing is just damn ridiculous kicking the can down the road doesn’t solve anything when Democrats get back in charge they need to abolish the debt ceiling or raise it so high that it can’t be used as a political cudgel anymore
Is taking the House back a realistic possibility next year, or are we just gerrymandered the fuck out of existence already? Because the freedom caucus running it is like being on a subway that got hijacked by a monkey with a machine gun and a bag of speed.
Absolutely a possibility. Everywhere there was MAGA bullshit on the ballot in '22, people turned out to stop it -- and there were some real lost opportunities. Especially in NY, where Jay Jacobs wasted all the state party power trying to fuck over progressives instead of getting everybody on message re: repro rights and, I dunno, doing the bare minimum to vet Santos. My SwingLeft group is focusing on NY-1 and NY-3 for next year in addition to our usual work in NJ-7 and PA-7. (Target Majority NYC, if you're looking for somewhere to direct your volunteer energy!)
I'm not especially active with the Coalition to Replace Jay Jacobs, but I have a few friends who are, including one who's running for county committee in our neighborhood. The NY Dem party structure is not especially responsive to local pressure, which is why it spent a ton of time as nothing but a Cuomo power consolidation tool, but the same people who broke the IDC are working on it. -- https://replacejayjacobs.com/
TBH I think redistricting is critical long term, but short term we need good party leadership asap. There's messaging that's very effective at both turning out voters and energizing pro-democracy legislative pushes. We need every state party using it -- and training candidates to use it -- so we don't end up in a full fledged fascist regime before we can redistrict anything. VA Dems have done a spectacular job on that front. Like, they were running this ad in September: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe61HUAwncc
(Anat Shenker-Osorio has been doing amazing messaging work for progressive causes, and I can't tell you how delighted I am to see more Dems listening to her.)
I'm not sure how the polling is going, but between people pissed about Dobbs and the crazies the Republicans are running, I'd say there is a distinct possibility, particularly if TFG gets prosecuted for something between now and then.
The Republicans in swing districts are furious at the Klown Kar Kaukus for creating a shitshow they'll have to defend while campaigning so I'd say yes, they could lose their House majority.
"North Carolina's latest law makes it so that too many people would go to the polls, cast their ballot and later learn — or perhaps never learn — that their vote didn’t count."
Well, you know, those greedy scientists OUGHT to be starved of funds so that they don't keep telling us lies about global warming. They concocted that whole hoax together with a bunch of communists who want to raise our taxes and use their green agenda as a way of exerting social control. First they'll take away our pickup trucks, and then they'll take away our guns.
[I wish I were making this up, but this is exactly what lot of MAGA cultists believe.]
You know. Those garbage collection trucks that visit your neighborhood every week? They burn way more gas. The liberals will probably come for those first.
From which we learn, Mike "Tragic" Johnson is smarter than Qevin McCarthy. This isn't good news, by the way.
Johnson is smart enough to want to be Speaker of the House, not just Speaker of the Republicans, which was all Qevin wanted to be. If Johnson can count to 218, and realizes he can get Jeffries to help him get there; Johnson is one to be reckoned with.
I'm not saying Jeffries was wrong to bail out Johnson here. I'm just saying if Johnson is smart enough to get Jeffries to save his bacon for him, he bears keeping an eye on.
Time will tell, won't it? I feel like his humble and smarmy exterior hides something crafty and self serving. He got through this. For now. As you say, he bears watching.
Well, where does he keep his money? Dude's earned $175,000/year for the past 7 years in the House. Before that he was a lawyer. He did work for Christo-fascist policy houses rather than in private practice, so he earned less than he could have, but he had an income.
He's earned more than me for the past couple decades. I have a bank account and traceable money. I have a retirement plan I fund. I've had mortgages. I have equity in my home; cars I've paid off; stuff like that. I've been filing tax returns. It wouldn't be hard to put together a pretty accurate record of my financial history.
Where's his money? His financial declaration forms list none of the stuff I have. Maybe he's not rich, but money has crossed his hands. Where is it?
"I'm not saying Jeffries was wrong to bail out Johnson here. I'm just saying if Johnson is smart enough to get Jeffries to save his bacon for him, he bears keeping an eye on."
That's just good politics. I don't see this as Democrats bailing Johnson out. I don't really see where Democrats conceded anything vital in agreeing to this deal. It would have been a caving if we had allowed them to cut funding for things that Democrats care about. The only thing I don't want house Democrats to cave on is voting for any of the Republican speakers. If by some mistake Republicans put forward a good bill, I would hope that Democrats would vote for it. In other words I don't think this makes us look weak, but we will have for the New York Times to weigh in in a few days I'm sure this will be their spin:
Yeah, I agree on all. I'm just cautioning against the mistake of assuming this Johnson guy is dumb because he's a fanatic. Crazed fanatics who can blend in and look milquetoast can be the most insidious and dangerous.
Oh these nasty people 🍗
Of course they wanna fund it through the election. Then the second they get re-elected for saving our farm! they will cut it like a badly tailored suit.
Seen this movie before.
Also, why does the military /and veterans programs/ run out first? Thought they supported the troops?
The idea was that everybody, including the Democrats, would have to support the appropriation bills on Jan. 19 or else the troops wouldn't get their paychecks, but then that bit of emotional blackmail would be off the table for the February showdown on funding Pete Buttigieg and Green Energy and Woke Education and Welfare Queens and all those other departments the Repubs would be happy to shut down.
Then, the Democrats said they would go along with Johnson's "laddered CR" if they could make some teensy edits, and he said fine. The bill they ended up passing moves Defense and some other stuff (like their precious Border Patrol!) to the February tier, not the January tier as originally planned. Johnson does not seem to have realized that this spoiled the whole gamesmanship that had been planned. A lot of Republicans did not realize it until the thing had gone through, and now they are furious.
Yep, Fuckface Von Clownstick and his clownass legal team are going for the mistrial gambit:
Donald's Desperate Demand: Trump Files for Mistrial in New York Bank Fraud Case
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donalds-desperate-demand-trump-files-for-mistrial-in-new-york-bank-fraud-case
Mike Johnson has no skills whatsoever, but he should get one of those participation awards that are so disdained by repubs.
Re: work-intensive scientific research projects
On 10/5/23, CDC figures were released showing that primary cause of death among children 1-19 in years 2020 & 2021 was firearms, factoring in homicide, suicide and unintentional events. In a two-minute vote on the House floor this morning, the office that compiled those stats was defunded.
Would you provide your source? I'd like to read up on this.
The hell???
Actual footage found of the House Republicans bloviating about not approving the CR right before the approve the CR: https://youtu.be/J2aNuWSb4eY
It's easy to bitch and moan from the cheap seats, when you know that the thing is going to happen regardless of your bloviating. It's something else entirely when you personally will be -- and will be *seen* to be -- personally responsible for an utterly avoidable catastrophe.
Isn't that a corollary of "Just wait until you have kids of your own"?
This. Exactly.
So can one congresscritter initiate speaker defenestration like it was for kev?
so far…
I have not seen or read anything to indicate that the one vote rule was ever revoked.
I think yes.
I think yes.
Oh and I forgot: Always remember that "johnson" is slang for "dick"!
You're welcome!
I'll get my Social Security for another couple of months! Huzzah! Thanks, Democrats!
Congrats on the Clean Johnson bill.
I hear a clean Johnson is next to godliness.
Clean Johnson's are the wave of the future...
I just want to know who had the odious task of bathing it...
Fuck! McCarthy told me it was $20, same as downtown. Is there an ATM around here?
The next one cannot happen fast enough, although I'm sure the next one will be worse. I'm not sure how, but my expectations for this sad country have become even lower than they were when Saint Ronnie was elected.
This whole thing is just damn ridiculous kicking the can down the road doesn’t solve anything when Democrats get back in charge they need to abolish the debt ceiling or raise it so high that it can’t be used as a political cudgel anymore
Is taking the House back a realistic possibility next year, or are we just gerrymandered the fuck out of existence already? Because the freedom caucus running it is like being on a subway that got hijacked by a monkey with a machine gun and a bag of speed.
Absolutely a possibility. Everywhere there was MAGA bullshit on the ballot in '22, people turned out to stop it -- and there were some real lost opportunities. Especially in NY, where Jay Jacobs wasted all the state party power trying to fuck over progressives instead of getting everybody on message re: repro rights and, I dunno, doing the bare minimum to vet Santos. My SwingLeft group is focusing on NY-1 and NY-3 for next year in addition to our usual work in NJ-7 and PA-7. (Target Majority NYC, if you're looking for somewhere to direct your volunteer energy!)
Everyone should have your rock star energy
They don't hear you though
Say it louder
https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1724887567848386751
I'm not especially active with the Coalition to Replace Jay Jacobs, but I have a few friends who are, including one who's running for county committee in our neighborhood. The NY Dem party structure is not especially responsive to local pressure, which is why it spent a ton of time as nothing but a Cuomo power consolidation tool, but the same people who broke the IDC are working on it. -- https://replacejayjacobs.com/
TBH I think redistricting is critical long term, but short term we need good party leadership asap. There's messaging that's very effective at both turning out voters and energizing pro-democracy legislative pushes. We need every state party using it -- and training candidates to use it -- so we don't end up in a full fledged fascist regime before we can redistrict anything. VA Dems have done a spectacular job on that front. Like, they were running this ad in September: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe61HUAwncc
(Anat Shenker-Osorio has been doing amazing messaging work for progressive causes, and I can't tell you how delighted I am to see more Dems listening to her.)
I'm not sure how the polling is going, but between people pissed about Dobbs and the crazies the Republicans are running, I'd say there is a distinct possibility, particularly if TFG gets prosecuted for something between now and then.
The Republicans in swing districts are furious at the Klown Kar Kaukus for creating a shitshow they'll have to defend while campaigning so I'd say yes, they could lose their House majority.
"The Republicans in swing districts are furious at the Klown Kar Kaukus for creating a shitshow they'll have to defend while campaigning"
Ask me how much I care about what MOOD the Confederates are in
https://www.wonkette.com/p/democrats-yet-again-save-america/comment/43723412
That's one of the best descriptions of the modern Rethug Party I've ever read. Nice work Mo!
8 people threw out McCarthy, of course it's within reach.
... and the elevator pitch ends with, "and the working title is Meth Macaque.""
"Any Which Way But Staten Island"? Wait, Clyde was an orangutan.
Eyes up
NY
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https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1724887567848386751
NC
"North Carolina's latest law makes it so that too many people would go to the polls, cast their ballot and later learn — or perhaps never learn — that their vote didn’t count."
https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1724910608124924120
There's work to do everywhere there is a "where"
Well, you know, those greedy scientists OUGHT to be starved of funds so that they don't keep telling us lies about global warming. They concocted that whole hoax together with a bunch of communists who want to raise our taxes and use their green agenda as a way of exerting social control. First they'll take away our pickup trucks, and then they'll take away our guns.
[I wish I were making this up, but this is exactly what lot of MAGA cultists believe.]
You know. Those garbage collection trucks that visit your neighborhood every week? They burn way more gas. The liberals will probably come for those first.
I have to drive my own trash to the transfer station out here in rural V'mawnt. But I do so in a Prius Smugmobile.
From which we learn, Mike "Tragic" Johnson is smarter than Qevin McCarthy. This isn't good news, by the way.
Johnson is smart enough to want to be Speaker of the House, not just Speaker of the Republicans, which was all Qevin wanted to be. If Johnson can count to 218, and realizes he can get Jeffries to help him get there; Johnson is one to be reckoned with.
I'm not saying Jeffries was wrong to bail out Johnson here. I'm just saying if Johnson is smart enough to get Jeffries to save his bacon for him, he bears keeping an eye on.
Time will tell, won't it? I feel like his humble and smarmy exterior hides something crafty and self serving. He got through this. For now. As you say, he bears watching.
Well, where does he keep his money? Dude's earned $175,000/year for the past 7 years in the House. Before that he was a lawyer. He did work for Christo-fascist policy houses rather than in private practice, so he earned less than he could have, but he had an income.
He's earned more than me for the past couple decades. I have a bank account and traceable money. I have a retirement plan I fund. I've had mortgages. I have equity in my home; cars I've paid off; stuff like that. I've been filing tax returns. It wouldn't be hard to put together a pretty accurate record of my financial history.
Where's his money? His financial declaration forms list none of the stuff I have. Maybe he's not rich, but money has crossed his hands. Where is it?
Yeah, we need to keep an eye on this guy.
You are far more analytical than I am. I just think he's a sneaky piece of shit.
Hah-hah-hah! You're just less verbose than I am.
I need to quantify these things to get them straight in my brain. I need to be sure exactly what kind of sneaky piece of shit he might be.
Commenters like you are exactly why I read Wonkette!
If only we were allowed to comment. But the recipes are worth almost as much as the dick jokes.
"I'm not saying Jeffries was wrong to bail out Johnson here. I'm just saying if Johnson is smart enough to get Jeffries to save his bacon for him, he bears keeping an eye on."
That's just good politics. I don't see this as Democrats bailing Johnson out. I don't really see where Democrats conceded anything vital in agreeing to this deal. It would have been a caving if we had allowed them to cut funding for things that Democrats care about. The only thing I don't want house Democrats to cave on is voting for any of the Republican speakers. If by some mistake Republicans put forward a good bill, I would hope that Democrats would vote for it. In other words I don't think this makes us look weak, but we will have for the New York Times to weigh in in a few days I'm sure this will be their spin:
DEMOCRATS CAVE TO REPUBLICAN DEMANDS!!!!!
Yeah, I agree on all. I'm just cautioning against the mistake of assuming this Johnson guy is dumb because he's a fanatic. Crazed fanatics who can blend in and look milquetoast can be the most insidious and dangerous.
Oh he's NOT dumb and that IS scary...
Yeah, that's one for him, for sure.
We gotta watch this guy.
the BIGGEST concern is the HUGE pass the fascist-loving MSM is going to give this guy for 'decorum'
I'm sure Heinrich Himmler was very presentable, too.
Not to "go there," but I guess I just did.