Why are rightwingers trying to mainstream Nazi imaginary? It I were a fascist, I wouldn’t advertise it by using symbols long associated with the evil. Then again, these are people who think wearing red shoes advertises the fact that you’re part of a satanic child abuse cabal. So maybe they’re just not that bright.
Point of order: that particular sonnenrad is not a very old symbol, like white supremacists and volkish Heathens like to claim. It's been dated only as far back as Nazi Germany, and is more commonly referred to as the Black Sun.
"That they feel they can operate openly, and with the feeling of impunity, is because they have received tacit (and at times overt) support from officials at the highest levels of government, and encouragement from one of the two major political parties— the GOP.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks white nationalist groups and hate crimes in the US, provides a detailed summary of the the emergence of white nationalist groups (such as Nazis, like the Aryan Brotherhood, or the Klan) and their supporters, as prominent members of mainstream conservative politics (while consistently characterized by the media as ‘fringe’), culminating in the election of Trump as the GOP standard-bearer...
Trump ran an overtly fascist campaign, has three outright Nazi’s (Bannon, Miller and Gorka) among his closest advisers, not to mention the Klan member AG, and numerous other white nationalists installed in various government offices, and according to his former wife, he reads Hitler’s speeches for inspiration. His affinity for fascism and fascists was not lost on the white nationalists who had previously operated in camouflage, largely outside the awareness of the wider public...
But this did not begin with Trump.
He is not the cause or creator of anything, he is the end-product of a decades long effort by the most conservative elements of the GOP, as detailed by Michael Joseph Roberto in his article, The Origins of American Fascism, in Monthly Review:
//In the U.S. capitalist epicenter, the driving force of fascism came from the capitalist class itself, intent on extending and protecting the wealth and power it had gained during the boom years of the 1920s. In Germany, by contrast, fascism found its natural base in a disaffected lower middle class moved by rising nationalist anger over the punitive accords of Versailles. In Germany, terrorist ultra-nationalism brought Hitler and his party to power. In the United States, capitalists with the assistance of the State smashed labor during the Red Scare and shared common ground with reactionary terrorist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan in promoting the doctrine of “100 percent Americanism.” However, from 1922 until 1929 they propagated a more palatable nationalism in the form of the American Plan, a strategy of the “open shop” and company unions, used against organized labor.//
//Already in the 1930s, the most astute American observers traced fascism’s origins to big business and financial capital. Three studies from this period stand out, all written by Marxists or influenced by Marxism: Do We Want Fascism? (1934) by Carmen Haider, The Crisis of the Middle Class (1935) by Lewis Corey, and The Peril of Fascism (1938) by A. B. Magil and Henry Stevens. All three works, long buried by liberal historiography and political commentary, resonate in the current moment. Each argued that the United States would “go fascist” if the capitalist class continued to amass wealth and power over the rest of society. In this respect their position accorded with that of the Communist International, as articulated in 1935 by general secretary Georgi Dimitroff in his report to the Seventh Congress, defining fascism as the rule of finance capital itself.4 As I will argue, this definition now offers insights into the deeper motives of Trump’s ongoing Gleichschaltung.//
//… a coming American fascism did not require a third, fascist party. Instead, it could emerge from political realignments within the two-party system, transformed by a social and political crisis. Haider contended that with the Democrats in power, Republicans, who already included “several of our foremost financiers and industrial leaders,” knew what they had to do. “It would be an insult to their ability to think that they could not take care of a movement of discontent and direct it into party channels,” she wrote, “even though, possibly, this would imply a recasting of the party.” In that sense the Republicans would also pull in reactionary Democratic elites and reshape their party to oppose Roosevelt and the New Deal coalition. By such a realignment, fascism could take root without disturbing the two-party system.//
"GOP voters not all the same? My reply: That matters? Don't make excuses for those choosing fascism." (Jan. 23, 2021)
"Here’s why the observation that ‘they are all different’ is simply a vapid description, akin to saying ‘they all have feet of varying size’. Undoubtedly true, but demonstrating nothing about the person’s political priorities or worldview. I’d suggest that political priorities and worldview matter more than any other characteristics when someone has facilitated a gang of criminal thugs whose purpose was to destroy the Capital, dismantle our democratic institutions, and murder Democratic members of Congress.
Individual differences don’t always reflect meaningful distinctions in understanding who belongs to what cohort...
Two different species of tree can be present in the same forest, and are part of what comprises that forest...
If instead we approach the task of looking clearly at the opponents we’re focused on in this discussion... opponents who have contributed by their choices, and alignment with the party of mass death and crimes against humanity, have facilitated acts of violence with the purpose of overthrowing our democracy, we might need to be more cautious about how much we make of claimed ‘differences’, and what those ‘differences’ actually signify."
This is so sad. Might be another "rough patch" he's going thru. Perhaps another call from unlikeable and unemployed, Tucker Carlson, will be forthcoming.
“One of the most powerful men in conservative politics took the time to sit down and call some random 23 year old kid he had never met”
Is the subtext here that you, too, random disaffected 23 year old kid reading this article, could get a phone call from a CELEBRITY! - if only your politics are sufficiently far right enough?
(PS - the 'quote' function will not actually work to post your quote as a comment on the article you wish to comment on. Instead, it will create a Note - still haven't fully figured out the point of those - that links to the article. Do not recommend).
We only have to go back 80 years to find a time when most far-white AmeriKKKans knew that nazism was bad. No wonder they won't shuttup about World War II.
Did they really know, though? A lot of far right Americans were writing love letters to Hitler right up until Pearl Harbor made it politically untenable for them.
People noticed the Sonnenrad, though.
see, also: Wewelsburg https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wewelsburg
over a soundtrack of a fake Kate Bush song sung by somebody who does a really sad Kate Bush impression
the best and simultaneously saddest part of the whole epic tale
"No never." Well... hardly ever!
Why are rightwingers trying to mainstream Nazi imaginary? It I were a fascist, I wouldn’t advertise it by using symbols long associated with the evil. Then again, these are people who think wearing red shoes advertises the fact that you’re part of a satanic child abuse cabal. So maybe they’re just not that bright.
Point of order: that particular sonnenrad is not a very old symbol, like white supremacists and volkish Heathens like to claim. It's been dated only as far back as Nazi Germany, and is more commonly referred to as the Black Sun.
"Nazis in full daylight. No one should be surprised where conservatism and the GOP have brought us."(Aug. 13, 2017)
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/27/1745280/-Nazis-in-full-daylight-No-surprises-where-conservatism-and-GOP-have-brought-us-anti-Semitism-up
"That they feel they can operate openly, and with the feeling of impunity, is because they have received tacit (and at times overt) support from officials at the highest levels of government, and encouragement from one of the two major political parties— the GOP.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks white nationalist groups and hate crimes in the US, provides a detailed summary of the the emergence of white nationalist groups (such as Nazis, like the Aryan Brotherhood, or the Klan) and their supporters, as prominent members of mainstream conservative politics (while consistently characterized by the media as ‘fringe’), culminating in the election of Trump as the GOP standard-bearer...
Trump ran an overtly fascist campaign, has three outright Nazi’s (Bannon, Miller and Gorka) among his closest advisers, not to mention the Klan member AG, and numerous other white nationalists installed in various government offices, and according to his former wife, he reads Hitler’s speeches for inspiration. His affinity for fascism and fascists was not lost on the white nationalists who had previously operated in camouflage, largely outside the awareness of the wider public...
But this did not begin with Trump.
He is not the cause or creator of anything, he is the end-product of a decades long effort by the most conservative elements of the GOP, as detailed by Michael Joseph Roberto in his article, The Origins of American Fascism, in Monthly Review:
//In the U.S. capitalist epicenter, the driving force of fascism came from the capitalist class itself, intent on extending and protecting the wealth and power it had gained during the boom years of the 1920s. In Germany, by contrast, fascism found its natural base in a disaffected lower middle class moved by rising nationalist anger over the punitive accords of Versailles. In Germany, terrorist ultra-nationalism brought Hitler and his party to power. In the United States, capitalists with the assistance of the State smashed labor during the Red Scare and shared common ground with reactionary terrorist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan in promoting the doctrine of “100 percent Americanism.” However, from 1922 until 1929 they propagated a more palatable nationalism in the form of the American Plan, a strategy of the “open shop” and company unions, used against organized labor.//
//Already in the 1930s, the most astute American observers traced fascism’s origins to big business and financial capital. Three studies from this period stand out, all written by Marxists or influenced by Marxism: Do We Want Fascism? (1934) by Carmen Haider, The Crisis of the Middle Class (1935) by Lewis Corey, and The Peril of Fascism (1938) by A. B. Magil and Henry Stevens. All three works, long buried by liberal historiography and political commentary, resonate in the current moment. Each argued that the United States would “go fascist” if the capitalist class continued to amass wealth and power over the rest of society. In this respect their position accorded with that of the Communist International, as articulated in 1935 by general secretary Georgi Dimitroff in his report to the Seventh Congress, defining fascism as the rule of finance capital itself.4 As I will argue, this definition now offers insights into the deeper motives of Trump’s ongoing Gleichschaltung.//
//… a coming American fascism did not require a third, fascist party. Instead, it could emerge from political realignments within the two-party system, transformed by a social and political crisis. Haider contended that with the Democrats in power, Republicans, who already included “several of our foremost financiers and industrial leaders,” knew what they had to do. “It would be an insult to their ability to think that they could not take care of a movement of discontent and direct it into party channels,” she wrote, “even though, possibly, this would imply a recasting of the party.” In that sense the Republicans would also pull in reactionary Democratic elites and reshape their party to oppose Roosevelt and the New Deal coalition. By such a realignment, fascism could take root without disturbing the two-party system.//
"GOP voters not all the same? My reply: That matters? Don't make excuses for those choosing fascism." (Jan. 23, 2021)
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/23/2011340/-GOP-voters-not-all-the-same-My-reply-That-matters-Don-t-make-excuses-for-those-choosing-fascism
"Here’s why the observation that ‘they are all different’ is simply a vapid description, akin to saying ‘they all have feet of varying size’. Undoubtedly true, but demonstrating nothing about the person’s political priorities or worldview. I’d suggest that political priorities and worldview matter more than any other characteristics when someone has facilitated a gang of criminal thugs whose purpose was to destroy the Capital, dismantle our democratic institutions, and murder Democratic members of Congress.
Individual differences don’t always reflect meaningful distinctions in understanding who belongs to what cohort...
Two different species of tree can be present in the same forest, and are part of what comprises that forest...
If instead we approach the task of looking clearly at the opponents we’re focused on in this discussion... opponents who have contributed by their choices, and alignment with the party of mass death and crimes against humanity, have facilitated acts of violence with the purpose of overthrowing our democracy, we might need to be more cautious about how much we make of claimed ‘differences’, and what those ‘differences’ actually signify."
This is so sad. Might be another "rough patch" he's going thru. Perhaps another call from unlikeable and unemployed, Tucker Carlson, will be forthcoming.
That dude probably would have been retained if he wasn't caught.
"It had been tweeted through the pro-DeSantis @desantiscams Twitter page"
Well, someone else has to have seen it too. You can't write desantiscams without writing scams.
“One of the most powerful men in conservative politics took the time to sit down and call some random 23 year old kid he had never met”
Is the subtext here that you, too, random disaffected 23 year old kid reading this article, could get a phone call from a CELEBRITY! - if only your politics are sufficiently far right enough?
(PS - the 'quote' function will not actually work to post your quote as a comment on the article you wish to comment on. Instead, it will create a Note - still haven't fully figured out the point of those - that links to the article. Do not recommend).
Whether it's religion or politics, there always seems to be a fetish for "needing a real daddy" with these folks, no?
Indeed. And more in the fetish sense of Daddy than male parental unit - tho I'm sure that plays into it too.
We only have to go back 80 years to find a time when most far-white AmeriKKKans knew that nazism was bad. No wonder they won't shuttup about World War II.
Did they really know, though? A lot of far right Americans were writing love letters to Hitler right up until Pearl Harbor made it politically untenable for them.
Ask Lindbergh
This fascist loving weirdo had an editorial published in... the New York Times
fair and balanced!
It blows my mind that this image is an actual frame from the campaign video, composed intentionally by the campaign, and not a snarky composite.
That ad jumps around so quickly, you'd have to be on meth to appreciate it.
I thought it was a bold move for DeSantis to hire a bunch of 4chan meme shitposters.
he got the idea from Elmo.
Talking fucking Nazi shit.
"Robert F Kennedy Jr is again spreading lies to the American public.
The Minsk 2 Accord wasn’t signed in 2019, it was signed in 2015.
Zelensky didn’t run on signing Minsk 2"
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1684197632745394179
I guess Bobby 2 thinks all those Chinam....err Ukrainemen all look alike.