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Daddy paid them off to pass him.

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Don't I know it! It's constant chaos insanity. I'll be glad the day he is no longer on the earth. Though there are worse behind him. He didn't rise without the help of the entire R party from local to federal to corporate america. We are a plutocracy.

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Good thing we now believe everyone must have “skin in the game” to avoid being mooches these days. There’s no way anything of that value would just be given from the government to a not-already-rich person in 2023, without a million lawsuits and news segments on people scamming the system.

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There are a lot of people out there who won't be helped by spending any money kicking them down, or trying to raise them up. We can't just lock up all our mentally ill or antisocial citizens, can we? That's what we're doing now. That's what we've always done. I don't know what the solution is, I really don't. In sci fi books about future utopias, they often describe how they successfully "re-educate" their antisocial citizens, but no amount of re-education is going to help people like my cousin. He needs a complete brain reprogramming.

There's one sci fi story about a future utopia in which the main plot point revolves around a man who absolutely refuses to conform, and so they alter his body chemistry so that he produces a really horrible body odor, but they are kind and also alter his chemistry so that he is unable to smell himself. The result is that nobody will go within 50 feet of him and he is left living alone and can't interact with anyone in a negative way. This drives him nuts because he is inherently angry and wants to make other people angry and upset, and he can't do that. That's not a good solution, but it was thought provoking.

There's another sci fi story about a future utopia in which a very large reservation is maintained where society sends all their misfits, and they call that reservation Coventry. Being "sent to Coventry" often straightens people up because it is a kind of chaotic Wild West where there is no order or law enforcement and it scares the shit out of some people, who then repent and want to go home and conform. That's just another kind of prison, if you ask me, and it doesn't work very well.

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That's what we've always done. I don't know what the solution is, I really don't.

I do.

The founders put The Post in our constitution.It was supposed to bind the nation together.As Bush closed post offices it was pointed out, that The Post Office has been a meeting and gathering place for citizens since before we were a United States.

We have lessened all those features of The Constitution that have to do with common good, general welfare, and domestic tranquility.

The Post is one.The Militia is one, at the state level.EC, and the Lower House are all social institutions written into our constitution.

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The result is that nobody will go within 50 feet of him and he is left living alone and can't interact with anyone in a negative way.

That's why I believe everyone should be cared for on the most basic levels.Safe Drinking water must be available to everyone, so that no one will feel excluded.The Post, is a government agency, that should be able to provide a job to anyone who wants one.

Then the person will have a sense of belonging.Seh will afford food, clothing, shelter, health-care, education, and police and fire protection.Refer to Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs.

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There's another sci fi story about a future utopia in which a very large reservation is maintained where society sends all their misfits,

Who is a misfit?

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Right, corrupt highly profitable corporate America is perfectly willing to ignore the homeless and poor.

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Anyone who doesn't accept the status quo of the utopian society and conform to its expectations. It's a slippery slope.

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Corporate america created the system to give us the homeless and the poor. Rich kids don't go to war, go without anything. The peasants die for each and every one of their causes.

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You are right, but there will always be people like my cousin who reject belonging. I've known him all his life ... there was something wrong with him even as a child which we would now call severe ADHD and Oppositional Defiant Disorder. He was never diagnosed or treated and so he was always an outsider and his negative behaviors increased as he aged. He is a crook and a liar and an abuser who is always trying to manipulate the system and other people, and his worst traits are exacerbated by drugs and alcohol and his own frustration. People like him require proper intervention in early childhood, and that didn't happen in his case. His parents simply enabled him.

Of course, in my personal opinion my aunt and uncle weren't fit to have children, but that's a different subject.

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Slippery slope.culture, belief.Egyptians believed in Ra; they piled stone in the desert for 4000 years.

Adam Smith said, "All money is a matter of belief"Human primates have governed themselves since Gobekli Tepe by tribe, religion, or monarchy. Ours is first to base governance on the consent of the governed.

not a slippery slope.progress and hope for humanity.A tough climb ahead.

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Sounds like untreated mental illness.Suppose he had, and his family had gotten some real help?I mean ...

Our understanding of mental illness is in it's infancy.our understanding of MEDICINE is brand new to us.Utopian future? That was a future in which malaria and cholera would go away.

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Our visions of what makes a utopia can change radically over time. Cars were welcomed by many as a godsend because they eliminated the problem of mountains of horse shit all over our streets. On the other hand, a lot of people supported themselves by collecting the horse shit and selling it as fertilizer to gardeners, and they all lost their livelihood, not to mention the fact that cars simply created a new kind of pollution. Penicillin was greeted as a miracle drug, and it was definitely that for a long time, but now antibiotic resistance is a real health issue.

Yes, I think my cousin had a mental illness, but he was born in 1958, which was an age of great darkness in the area of mental health treatment, and he might even have been considered for a lobotomy if his parents had sought help from the wrong people. He started drinking alcohol and drugs at an early age, including LSD. Then one time while driving drunk he drove off the road and hit a tree and suffered brain damage and multiple broken bones. He got much worse after that, but again his parents did not get him proper medical care. My uncle (by marriage) was a moron, and my aunt was very passive and let him make all the decisions. Uncle Gene was a rural redneck and he didn't like or trust doctors or anyone with a college degree.

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I have a consolidated student loan (FFELP) serviced by Navient as well. Lately, I've been getting invitations to borrow money from Navient for personal loans. Um...nope! I'd rather be tied to an ant hill than have any other relationship with Navient.

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