I’ve non-commented before that Mrs Mild has taken the MCA several times since her initial diagnosis of Vascular Dementia. It’s meant to track cognitive decline, so if the doctors at Walter Reed gave it to tRump once, they should be doing it at least every 6 months or so to track the obvious decline in tRump’s cognition. The video of the PM of Japan (President of Japan?) leading a befuddled tRump around is a prime example of someone who is in cogntive decline.
The whole business of being asked to repeat 5 words (Man, Woman, Person, Camera, TV) is bullshit. The tester gives the patient a list of 5 words and asks that they repeat them in order. After 5 minutes the patient is asked to repeat the 5 words. if any are missed, the tester gives some prompting. This happens again after 10 minutes and 15 minutes.
I remember reading about how the press during the Wilson and FDR administrations would be told not to report accurately on the health of the president. The nation needs a press who will give an accurate assessment of tRump’s decline, mentally and physically. We deserve this.
The only tricky thing about drawing a clock is that most people can't really see and place 1/12 of a circle accurately. But placing 12. 3. 6. and 9 first gets the spacing right. I had to take one a couple of years ago after a fall put me in the hospital and then rehab. The full test is not an IQ test - it's more of a memory test - and if they gave him one which involved identifying animals, they gave him a lot easier one than the one I took.
Even if you do the four points of the compass, essentially, right, dividing a quarter circle into thirds is more difficult than it looks without a degree of practice.
I’m only in my 60s, but in the last few years I’ve found myself sometimes unable to recall the names of well known celebrities, so I’m really hoping these cognitive tests stick to identifying camels and elephants, and not, say, Tom Cruise and Matt Damon.
I'm 78 and am scheduled for my semi-annual wellness check, It might become bi-annual or maybe even best-of-luck-to-ya after the new insurance costs kick in. In any case, I rather doubt I'll be getting an MRI with that visit. I have had one. Didn't involve a scheduled visit. Got one after suffering a transient ischemic attack (aka TIA or "mini-stroke"). Happy that there are no lasting effects. No saggy face, no slurred speech, no mental lapses, no aimless wandering around, no nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind. Those are more often associated with a cerebrovascular accident aka "stroke".
I've had two on that part of my body. One because of pain down my left arm that mimicked pain from a known ruptured disk that connects to the nerve on the right side (but was not explained by a ruptured disk per the MRI). Once after a bicycle accident that involved traumatic brain injury (staring at film showing blood in the wrong places in your brain is not recommended, but being able to see it, given the accident: priceless). They are not things you do routinely, and they are a bitch to live through. It feels like you're inside something out of Modern Times. With the world's worst percussion section playing at full volume.
What I am wondering is when they will stop asking the clock drawing question - we have at least a couple of generations who may never be exposed to analog clocks - when does that part of the test become biased?
Much like the Final Jeopardy question recently that asked about what the three simplest to dial area codes were. None of the contestants seemed to understand how much harder it was to dial 0 than 1.
Good question. But I think we have a way to go yet. There are a few public places where I still see analog clocks being used. The clock in my car is analog and it is a 2006 model - and yes, that's old enough to vote, but it's sill from the current century at least.
Aside from all the clock jokes, it is a real and tragic disease that affects so many. We older folks are more aware of the toll dementia takes on its victims and loved ones. If you are fiscally able, drop a donation to Alheimers (alz.org).
My paternal grandfather was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s when he was 80, and a year later, had to go into a nursing home. He spent the next 4 years there until he died at 85.
My dad just turned 80, and he’s been showing signs for about a year now, but he’s not as bad as his dad was at this point. He has a living will and DNR, and has made it clear he would rather die than have to go into a nursing home.
A few years ago I did an intake interview for a psychiatrist. (I don't actually need one right now, but he also treats my wife and takes our insurance, so I thought it might be a good ideal if I had a relationship with one.) Anyway, he gave me a cognitive exam over Zoom as part of the intake process. Part of it was the thing where he gives you three phrases to remember and asks you about them several minutes later. The phrases were:
1. red bananas
2. 740 West 12th Street, Washington DC*
3. freedom
*it was a street address in Washington, but I don't remember exactly what it was anymore
After several minutes of discussing my background and medical history, he asked me to repeat the phrases which I did with no difficulty, but a beat after the last one I appended "person, man, woman, camera, TV" which cracked my guy right up. He explained that the test worked like this: first question was a random adjective-noun pair, second was a detailed piece of information with numbers, and the third was an abstract concept. He said that there was no way that they'd give him a list of single words, particularly related words.
Why has proven rapist and censor-in-chief Trump been so fixated with destroying the White House and adding on the largest gaming floor this side of Atlantic City?
Maybe it was not to add a discounted seafood buffet. Maybe even is syphilis ravaged mind realizes he is not long for this world, and he is just setting up a giant mausoleum like those for Lenin and Mao where his preserved body can be worshiped by his cult?
I’ve non-commented before that Mrs Mild has taken the MCA several times since her initial diagnosis of Vascular Dementia. It’s meant to track cognitive decline, so if the doctors at Walter Reed gave it to tRump once, they should be doing it at least every 6 months or so to track the obvious decline in tRump’s cognition. The video of the PM of Japan (President of Japan?) leading a befuddled tRump around is a prime example of someone who is in cogntive decline.
The whole business of being asked to repeat 5 words (Man, Woman, Person, Camera, TV) is bullshit. The tester gives the patient a list of 5 words and asks that they repeat them in order. After 5 minutes the patient is asked to repeat the 5 words. if any are missed, the tester gives some prompting. This happens again after 10 minutes and 15 minutes.
I remember reading about how the press during the Wilson and FDR administrations would be told not to report accurately on the health of the president. The nation needs a press who will give an accurate assessment of tRump’s decline, mentally and physically. We deserve this.
The only tricky thing about drawing a clock is that most people can't really see and place 1/12 of a circle accurately. But placing 12. 3. 6. and 9 first gets the spacing right. I had to take one a couple of years ago after a fall put me in the hospital and then rehab. The full test is not an IQ test - it's more of a memory test - and if they gave him one which involved identifying animals, they gave him a lot easier one than the one I took.
Even if you do the four points of the compass, essentially, right, dividing a quarter circle into thirds is more difficult than it looks without a degree of practice.
Ta, Robyn. Article 25 his diapered ass!!
It's a small step from IQ-tests to phrenology.
-- Murray and Herrnstein, probably
I’m only in my 60s, but in the last few years I’ve found myself sometimes unable to recall the names of well known celebrities, so I’m really hoping these cognitive tests stick to identifying camels and elephants, and not, say, Tom Cruise and Matt Damon.
same. but!! i recently memorized 110 pages of text this year* and am feeling ok about my cognitive abilities for the next little while.
(*this was not weird, i'm an actor. though still, 110 pages was A LOT).
I'm 78 and am scheduled for my semi-annual wellness check, It might become bi-annual or maybe even best-of-luck-to-ya after the new insurance costs kick in. In any case, I rather doubt I'll be getting an MRI with that visit. I have had one. Didn't involve a scheduled visit. Got one after suffering a transient ischemic attack (aka TIA or "mini-stroke"). Happy that there are no lasting effects. No saggy face, no slurred speech, no mental lapses, no aimless wandering around, no nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind. Those are more often associated with a cerebrovascular accident aka "stroke".
I've had two on that part of my body. One because of pain down my left arm that mimicked pain from a known ruptured disk that connects to the nerve on the right side (but was not explained by a ruptured disk per the MRI). Once after a bicycle accident that involved traumatic brain injury (staring at film showing blood in the wrong places in your brain is not recommended, but being able to see it, given the accident: priceless). They are not things you do routinely, and they are a bitch to live through. It feels like you're inside something out of Modern Times. With the world's worst percussion section playing at full volume.
it's impossible for him to prove he's a genius....when in fact, he's a total fucking moron.
What an incredible dipshit.
What I am wondering is when they will stop asking the clock drawing question - we have at least a couple of generations who may never be exposed to analog clocks - when does that part of the test become biased?
Much like the Final Jeopardy question recently that asked about what the three simplest to dial area codes were. None of the contestants seemed to understand how much harder it was to dial 0 than 1.
Good question. But I think we have a way to go yet. There are a few public places where I still see analog clocks being used. The clock in my car is analog and it is a 2006 model - and yes, that's old enough to vote, but it's sill from the current century at least.
My wristwatch has the old-fashioned clock face. Is that cheating?
So does mine, but i’m in my late 60s
Oh, a youngster!
For Sir opening his fly in time is a Dementia Test... ... ... ... oops!
Aside from all the clock jokes, it is a real and tragic disease that affects so many. We older folks are more aware of the toll dementia takes on its victims and loved ones. If you are fiscally able, drop a donation to Alheimers (alz.org).
My paternal grandfather was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s when he was 80, and a year later, had to go into a nursing home. He spent the next 4 years there until he died at 85.
My dad just turned 80, and he’s been showing signs for about a year now, but he’s not as bad as his dad was at this point. He has a living will and DNR, and has made it clear he would rather die than have to go into a nursing home.
A few years ago I did an intake interview for a psychiatrist. (I don't actually need one right now, but he also treats my wife and takes our insurance, so I thought it might be a good ideal if I had a relationship with one.) Anyway, he gave me a cognitive exam over Zoom as part of the intake process. Part of it was the thing where he gives you three phrases to remember and asks you about them several minutes later. The phrases were:
1. red bananas
2. 740 West 12th Street, Washington DC*
3. freedom
*it was a street address in Washington, but I don't remember exactly what it was anymore
After several minutes of discussing my background and medical history, he asked me to repeat the phrases which I did with no difficulty, but a beat after the last one I appended "person, man, woman, camera, TV" which cracked my guy right up. He explained that the test worked like this: first question was a random adjective-noun pair, second was a detailed piece of information with numbers, and the third was an abstract concept. He said that there was no way that they'd give him a list of single words, particularly related words.
I think they've changed the exam
My mother took one with just single words, and / but that was at least a half decade ago
Why has proven rapist and censor-in-chief Trump been so fixated with destroying the White House and adding on the largest gaming floor this side of Atlantic City?
Maybe it was not to add a discounted seafood buffet. Maybe even is syphilis ravaged mind realizes he is not long for this world, and he is just setting up a giant mausoleum like those for Lenin and Mao where his preserved body can be worshiped by his cult?
Suddenly it all makes sense.
Donald Chump's grave will have to have to most serious security possible or be completely hidden to prevent the levels of vandalism it would invite.
He should be buried at sea next to Osama bin Laden.
It just seems to make sense to make sure there is a giant toilet on top of it so it is easier for people to pee on him.
Donnie Demento's late-night bleatings are all the evidence I need that he's nucking futs.
I drew a clock.
It is "we're totally fucked:30" all the time on my clock.
low forehead and high ideals …