There is something in Texas called the Institute for Creation Research, and one of the reality-TV-for-Christ girl Duggars took a field trip to it, with her husband. This is the same Duggar who field tripped to the Holocaust Memorial Museum in DC, where she learned that Charles Darwin did the Holocaust with his just-a-theory of evolution, so abortions are bad. (Homeschooling for the win!)
Maybe instead of all you atheists righteously condemning the believers (sound familiar?), you could attempt to broaden your narrow minds and see the wonder in the world around you. Not everyone needs the man in the sky illusion to see it, but I think its pretty clear to all of us in our "heart of hearts" that we live in an awe inspiring and unimaginably complex universe.
The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. - Carl Sagan.
What they are saying here is an appeal to ignorance fallacy. They are not engaging honestly on any level, and the idea that "I see things that are complex to me, therefore a magic man did it" is in any way, shape or form, a position of respect for the true complexity of the universe is nonsensical degrees of double think silliness. What they are saying here is "I know what you think because a book of 2000 year old shepherders fables told me so" and "I don't need to take the time to justify my beliefs because I realize I can't and that would undermine my deeply held, inculturated belief system that was force fed to me by my control freak father who used my mother as a breeding sow for 30 years, and we can't have that."
Sorry, but no. Just no. The Quiverfull movement is a mysogynistic, tyrannical, male centered Dominionist movement that is founded on the idea of mass producing lots of little mindless robots to go out and conquer. Literally. I encourage you to look into what the Quiverfull movement stands for. As a female, and I'm assuming a feminist, it should be very clear to you rather quickly that they stand for the absolute subjugation of females to male househeads, and a neo conservative 1950s fetishistic world view that is quite disturbing at its core.
The Duggars are horrible people. A vagina is not a clown car.
I'm betting that around the time the bimbette hits 35, she will finally get fed up with the rubbish and ditch dumb ass, and become a sad bitter bitch, as distinct from being a smug airhead.
These poor kids are victims of their parents' noxious ideology and disrespect for education. People like the Duggars are why homeschooling needs to be regulated. And the curricula they purchase from publishers like Bob Jones University should be disallowed as the sole homeschooling source. Not that the girls get to be educated much once they are able to cook, clean, and look after younger siblings. I can't wait until one escapes the cult and writes a tell-all book about these loons. There is a lot that is not shown on the tv show.
You might well be right. But let's assume for a moment that her views are so badly skewed because her reality has been so carefully controlled and altered with crazy propaganda. As she is an adult out from that artificial and toxic control, it is likely that she will be encountering a whole lot of challenges to those beliefs and assumptions in her own direct experience.I don't see that leaving her a happy person, and I don't see her as happy with the dumb ass and his limitations either.Perhaps I'm underestimating the strength and durability of airheadedness. Or is that air-head-dumb?
Yes, the Universe is amazingly complex and wonderful. Which makes me feel that taking, at face value, a book that was written by people that lived here 3000 years ago to try and explain what they couldn't possibly understand as "the truth" is beyond silly and in fact VERY narrow-minded. I feel it's exactly the opposite. I believe that every faith-filled Christian knows in their "heart of hearts" that there is no God because there has been no evidence to support it, ever.
yeah, that's gonna be one hell of tell-all, considering one of the elder boys just came out saying he got caught diddling a few of his younger sisters...
That makes you an atheist. The term has been run through the ringer and misrepresented almost beyond repair. Along with the people who think they can ride the fence regarding a binary position and call themselves agnostic. Somehow, more then likely as a result of religous misinformation, they seem to think that atheism is an extreme. They haven't yet taken the time to learn that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. The fact of the matter is, if you don't currently hold a belief in a god then you are an atheist. That's all the term addresses. People, especially Christians, but also some 'agnostics' need to learn that there are actual meanings behind these words. The term agnostic does not stand on its own. You are a gnostic theist, agnostic theist, gnostic atheist, or agnostic atheist. When it comes to the single proposition of whether or not you believe a god exists, you either hold the belief or you do not hold the belief. If you don't then you are an atheist (that says nthing else about you as a person by the way) if you do then you are a theist (once again that says nothing else about you). Once again, there is no riding the fence concerning a binary position about belief.
Actually your forgetting it was edited by commitee removing and adding parts based on the politics of the time as well during the reign of a Roman Emperor. We also don't even actually have a complete text either its kinda pieced together.
Not believing in god is in no way mutually exclusive with "seeing the wonder around you" or feeling that we "live in an awe inspiring and unimaginably complex universe." I'm sorry that you were confused about that, but I'm glad I could help you.
Given that she's had fifty-eleven children and probably has no clue what a Kegel exercise is, and that these freaks probably feel that sex is a disgusting necessary evil for the purpose of conception only, if you dream of two-minute missionary and hotdogs skimming down hallways, yeah, she's your girl.
The young one has only had one so far. Mama's the one that's probably like a hippo's yawn. I hear if you put your ear next to Mama's crotch you can hear the ocean! Two minutes is also better than no minutes!
What IS a supreme being? What is it made of? Why would it exist? How would we tell 1 from a million of them? A good one from a bad one? A 3-in-1 version from a 2-in-1 version? A male from a hermaphrodite? Does it have a brain made of cells? If not, how is it a "being"? Does it think? How? Why would a "supreme being" ever be disappointed? Why would it want to be believed in? Why would it make imperfect people like The Duggers when it could make perfectly perfect people like Jesus? Why would it blame it's creations for being the way it knew they'd be before they made them? Nothing about religion-- especially Christianity-- makes sense.
I don't even understand the concept of "supreme being" and I don't think anyone else does either. Would anyone even try to make sense of the concept if they weren't afraid something super duper bad (like eternal damnation) might happen if they didn't have faith? Don't they realize that if there was the slightest evidence for souls real scientists would be testing that evidence to find out more like they do with everything else that is real (magnetism, electricity, DNA, space travel, atoms, mental illness,etc.)
Guilt goes in, prayers go out ... no one can explain it.
who are these dipshits again?
Maybe instead of all you atheists righteously condemning the believers (sound familiar?), you could attempt to broaden your narrow minds and see the wonder in the world around you. Not everyone needs the man in the sky illusion to see it, but I think its pretty clear to all of us in our "heart of hearts" that we live in an awe inspiring and unimaginably complex universe.
Perhaps that's what they are trying to say here?
The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. - Carl Sagan.
What they are saying here is an appeal to ignorance fallacy. They are not engaging honestly on any level, and the idea that "I see things that are complex to me, therefore a magic man did it" is in any way, shape or form, a position of respect for the true complexity of the universe is nonsensical degrees of double think silliness. What they are saying here is "I know what you think because a book of 2000 year old shepherders fables told me so" and "I don't need to take the time to justify my beliefs because I realize I can't and that would undermine my deeply held, inculturated belief system that was force fed to me by my control freak father who used my mother as a breeding sow for 30 years, and we can't have that."
Sorry, but no. Just no. The Quiverfull movement is a mysogynistic, tyrannical, male centered Dominionist movement that is founded on the idea of mass producing lots of little mindless robots to go out and conquer. Literally. I encourage you to look into what the Quiverfull movement stands for. As a female, and I'm assuming a feminist, it should be very clear to you rather quickly that they stand for the absolute subjugation of females to male househeads, and a neo conservative 1950s fetishistic world view that is quite disturbing at its core.
The Duggars are horrible people. A vagina is not a clown car.
I'm betting that around the time the bimbette hits 35, she will finally get fed up with the rubbish and ditch dumb ass, and become a sad bitter bitch, as distinct from being a smug airhead.
That Creationist guy is a real piece of work. "God does't exist? YOU don't exist!"
I used to argue that way, but then I turned seven.
These poor kids are victims of their parents' noxious ideology and disrespect for education. People like the Duggars are why homeschooling needs to be regulated. And the curricula they purchase from publishers like Bob Jones University should be disallowed as the sole homeschooling source. Not that the girls get to be educated much once they are able to cook, clean, and look after younger siblings. I can't wait until one escapes the cult and writes a tell-all book about these loons. There is a lot that is not shown on the tv show.
You might well be right. But let's assume for a moment that her views are so badly skewed because her reality has been so carefully controlled and altered with crazy propaganda. As she is an adult out from that artificial and toxic control, it is likely that she will be encountering a whole lot of challenges to those beliefs and assumptions in her own direct experience.I don't see that leaving her a happy person, and I don't see her as happy with the dumb ass and his limitations either.Perhaps I'm underestimating the strength and durability of airheadedness. Or is that air-head-dumb?
Yes, the Universe is amazingly complex and wonderful. Which makes me feel that taking, at face value, a book that was written by people that lived here 3000 years ago to try and explain what they couldn't possibly understand as "the truth" is beyond silly and in fact VERY narrow-minded. I feel it's exactly the opposite. I believe that every faith-filled Christian knows in their "heart of hearts" that there is no God because there has been no evidence to support it, ever.
yeah, that's gonna be one hell of tell-all, considering one of the elder boys just came out saying he got caught diddling a few of his younger sisters...
That makes you an atheist. The term has been run through the ringer and misrepresented almost beyond repair. Along with the people who think they can ride the fence regarding a binary position and call themselves agnostic. Somehow, more then likely as a result of religous misinformation, they seem to think that atheism is an extreme. They haven't yet taken the time to learn that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. The fact of the matter is, if you don't currently hold a belief in a god then you are an atheist. That's all the term addresses. People, especially Christians, but also some 'agnostics' need to learn that there are actual meanings behind these words. The term agnostic does not stand on its own. You are a gnostic theist, agnostic theist, gnostic atheist, or agnostic atheist. When it comes to the single proposition of whether or not you believe a god exists, you either hold the belief or you do not hold the belief. If you don't then you are an atheist (that says nthing else about you as a person by the way) if you do then you are a theist (once again that says nothing else about you). Once again, there is no riding the fence concerning a binary position about belief.
Actually your forgetting it was edited by commitee removing and adding parts based on the politics of the time as well during the reign of a Roman Emperor. We also don't even actually have a complete text either its kinda pieced together.
Not believing in god is in no way mutually exclusive with "seeing the wonder around you" or feeling that we "live in an awe inspiring and unimaginably complex universe." I'm sorry that you were confused about that, but I'm glad I could help you.
You're welcome.
Given that she's had fifty-eleven children and probably has no clue what a Kegel exercise is, and that these freaks probably feel that sex is a disgusting necessary evil for the purpose of conception only, if you dream of two-minute missionary and hotdogs skimming down hallways, yeah, she's your girl.
The young one has only had one so far. Mama's the one that's probably like a hippo's yawn. I hear if you put your ear next to Mama's crotch you can hear the ocean! Two minutes is also better than no minutes!
What IS a supreme being? What is it made of? Why would it exist? How would we tell 1 from a million of them? A good one from a bad one? A 3-in-1 version from a 2-in-1 version? A male from a hermaphrodite? Does it have a brain made of cells? If not, how is it a "being"? Does it think? How? Why would a "supreme being" ever be disappointed? Why would it want to be believed in? Why would it make imperfect people like The Duggers when it could make perfectly perfect people like Jesus? Why would it blame it's creations for being the way it knew they'd be before they made them? Nothing about religion-- especially Christianity-- makes sense.
I don't even understand the concept of "supreme being" and I don't think anyone else does either. Would anyone even try to make sense of the concept if they weren't afraid something super duper bad (like eternal damnation) might happen if they didn't have faith? Don't they realize that if there was the slightest evidence for souls real scientists would be testing that evidence to find out more like they do with everything else that is real (magnetism, electricity, DNA, space travel, atoms, mental illness,etc.)