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You don't blow up a multi-billion-dollar industry without taking a lot of flak. Putting down the coal mining industry has been difficult enough - the war on insurers will be a hundred times tougher.

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A separate tax, which we already have in place for Medicare, will help considerably. GOP ratfuckers won't be able to disguise what they're doing if they have to explicitly propose cutting the "health care tax" -- they'll have to explain which benefits are going to be cut.

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Thank you.It was almost 19 years ago. I still have terrible foot pain since my right foot got crushed while I was desperately trying to brake.It's so hard recovering from physical and emotional trauma. You can't handle worrying about hospital Bill's in 6 figures. But yeah, we just love our insurance plans. Give me a break. I was lucky to have great insurance then. If that accident happened a few years later after they had changed coverage, I would have had to pay about $20,000 which I didn't have, not to mention 10% of the 3 more surgeries I had more than a year later. I might have had to cancel or delay at least one of those surgeries, meaning I would have been in severe pain longer.

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Tulsi will mysteriously continue to receive lots of money from who-knows-where. (Can't imagine how that might be happening.) But the polling % cutoff is going to rise to the point where the money no longer matters.

The money cut-off always bugged me: why give big money an edge? If you're going to use money raised as a measure, it should exclude large donations.

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Anyone who's never had to use it.

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Pete talks a lot about his faith. Church-going people should be one of his better constituencies. (Unless this is the "black folks are homophobic" trope again.) If he starts getting serious about black outreach now it might pay off well for him in 2028.

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It is weird that those same people are perfectly fine with medicare when they retire.Which is government heavy handed financing of the entire system.Course, it would not be government heavy handed financing of the entire system, it would be tax payer financing. And whatta ya mean even never trumpers? No GOPer wants anything for the public, because they are getting a shit ton of lobby money. Forget the never trumpers.

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This so fucking much.There is a reason why when GOPers take over a state, their first target for slashing funds is education

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I don't know, they somehow get support for dirtying our air by talking about deregulation, they are good at fucking things up.

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Ahem.

Hi.

Have we met?

Try not painting me with your big ol' bigot brush there, yeah? Not all of us who have some religion are homophobic. There's plenty of folks for whom the word is, all are welcome. ALL. No exceptions, no one left out, no one lesser than or not equal.

If you truly think otherwise that's fine and all, I'm not going to waste my time right now changing your mind (maybe later? [!]). But I will invite you to go cheerfully fuck yourself with a cactus.

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Pubic, M4A, vas the deferens?

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why are Americans so against a health system that means that poor people will need less support - health care means healthy people, working and contributing, living in stable housing (cos they aren't prioritising medicine over rent) and therefore in stable education, which means that after a few decades the poor people are in fact less poor than they are now. Before you start yelling 'too simplistic' yes, that is the point - this is a simple thing. There will always be people who are poor, but the degree of poverty will shift over time.

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Public option advocates have been saying something like that for a very long time, but the Bernie movement taught progressives that anything short of SINGLE PAYER NOW!!! is a gross betrayal of all that is good and decent. Indeed, just a few weeks ago, those Democrats who weren't supporting M4A and instead wanted to expand the ACA / offer a public option were being treated as centrists and traitors.

Here's Barney Frank a good decade ago, articulating exactly what Warren is only now starting to realize:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

My point: if we're going to praise Warren for her genius here, we ought to be even more lavish in our praise for those accursed centrists who didn't need ten years to figure it out.

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"Tell the greedy fucking doctors, hospital administrators, etc. to quit gouging us."

To the best of my knowledge, it's hospitals and pharmaceutical companies that are driving the cost of healthcare up more than anyone. But doctors' rates are increasing much more slowly than the average for the medical industry overall, which tells me doctors are caught in the squeeze rather than being a driver of costs.

But overall, yes, I agree we need to look at the medical providers. There is greed there, but there are also inefficiencies that may be difficult or impossible to move past without government intervention.

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And the exchanges were easy compared to dropping M4A fully-formed upon the world and putting people on it.

(The mistake with healthcare.gov was that they went for the whole enchilada all at once -- lookups and signups -- and they didn't have a simple backup plan ready, where there would be a lookup-only mode.)

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Because racism and classism are de facto laws of the land and if certain people don't have someone less fortunate to spit on, they recognize what difficult empty holes their own lives are. Then add in the logical progression towards the prosperity gospel, which isn't a cause as much as an effect. Even people who don't literally believe in it have the cultural idea that what you work for, you deserve. And if you don't have it, you must not be working hard enough and you shouldn't be given it. It's meritocracy and late stage capitalism taken to some of their most toxic places.

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