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Exactly. When you shoot, you shoot to kill. Otherwise there's another side to this "I was standing my ground" story, and that's never good.

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Im not sure I get your point and know that you didnt get mine. 'Gun Culture' is something that children are fully indoctrinated in well before the time they are 17. Why was the 17 year old even there? Why didnt the store owners let the fight over $25 dollars go and let the police deal with it?

gun humpers are always looking out for their chance to kill someone so they can be a 'hero' and this 17 year old kid was no different. His life was taken because he was hoping to get his own bit of shooting in there, other wise his presence was needed at all and his time would have been better spent on the phone with the police.

There are no 'good guys' in this situation and there is no one wh deserves sympathy either. If this was handles better, no one had to die. This wasnt a thief gunning down a shop owner to rob them, this is a situation being repeatedly escalated until to became a shoot out.

The more crazy, dangerous, armed people like that who kill each other, the safer the rest of us are.

Have a great day!

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I'm not a nutball, but I know a thing or three about guns. A $25 service charge is not out of order for a gunsmith. Basically, they'll take the gun and break it down (take it apart) to see if it's fixable. It's kind of like taking your car into the shop where they may charge a Diagnotics Fee. Generally they'll waive the fee if you pay to fix the problem. But if the gun is filthy or the owner has tried to 'fix' it before bringing it in, they'll probably charge the fee. And it's generally made clear on the form you fill out about your gun that you will be charged the fee.

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"A child was killed before he even had a chance to learn about the world, the real world, and make up his own mind, and have children of his own."

Like unarmed Trayvon Martin. Oh, right, he was a thug.

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Safety first. A wise idea, really.

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"A $25 service charge is not out of order for a gunsmith."It's not out of order for pretty much any kind of service gig. I'm an ex service manager for, mostly, laptops & printers, & depending on the device, our minimum service charge was $30-50, which was as low as we could make it without going broke.People don't get that it takes time, & an experienced tech to pull a gizmo apart to see what's the matter with it, much less actually fixing it. These kinds of disputes are pretty much par for the course, because if you don't charge a service fee to cover your labour, you go out of business very quickly.

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Which I guess for some of you means he deserved to die right? I'm not a nitwit, but I must wonder about the wits of those who are fine with young men being killed over civil conflicts. That so many of you don't find it appalling that a 17 year old boy died because the adults in the room couldn't handle a conflict without lethall violence is the part I find sick and disturbing. Sorry if that's too compassionate and human for y'all

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"That so many of you don't find it appalling that a 17 year old boy died because the adults in the room couldn't handle a conflict without lethall violence is the part I find sick and disturbing."I DO find it appalling. It wouldn't have happened if the USA didn't allow every random nutjob to own a gun.

PS: Have you ever used the phrase "black on black crime"?

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Somehow, history is not mentioned here, I remember an old story, London, a young woman stole some cloth, in order to sell it, to buy milk for her baby, the judges imposed the death penalty on the young woman in question, even over the objections of the merchant, he thought she might get imprisoned at worst.

People in general have a poor track record, forgot about the Crusades or the Spanish inquisition? or do those not count since guns were not used?

Violent crimes are not common to all people, hysterical reations to violent crime solves nothing, neither does knee jerk solutions to non existent problems, guns are an easy thing to ban, tangible, something you can see, the real problem is not something you can see, a CAT scan or X-Ray can't reveal it either, mental illness is hard to detect, define, treat, So, if you can't treat the root cause, what then ? Ban guns ! we know it will not help, however, let's do something now !!!

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Wow, what is all this misplaced anger ?

I have a sneaking suspicious idea that nobody here gives a Rat's rear about the victims, it is just a platform for people with sex issues and massive frustrations from other unresolved issues, once all guns are banned, and society is not all hunky dory Utopia fruit paradise,

I wonder what is the next step ???

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Is that Juicy Fruit or Hubba Bubba you're chewin' over there? In your Utopia fruit paradise...

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Jesse Owens had a good track record!

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Hey, stop stealing MY COMMENT that I posted 7 hours after yours!

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"No charges have been brought against anyone at this time."

It's not clear that a crime was committed, because white people.

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That would confuse the fondlers, like: if guns aren't allowed, how can I buy a gun?

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Still no charges brought? Are they waiting for a second opinion? "Yup, he looks dead to me, too."

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