Interesting, because I am on Cayuga land, but then I am 65. If you are younger, maybe they don't teach these things like they did when I was in school, and I might not know as I don't have any children. Of course there's plenty of Cayuga land, and maybe your local schools didn't teach what I beleived was statewide
This does not surprise me when the only lasting change from the Parkland shooting was a plaque in Florida schools saying "In god we trust". Which should be illegal in a public school.
I'm not that much younger. Tho to be fair, I 1) have absolutely the long-term memory of a goldfish, but also 2) went to an experimental school grades K-5 so a lot of things other kids were learning then I didn't (but also vice-versa).
They had murder trials in Ancient Greece! And probably many other ancient places that had no idea about any Ten Commandments and practiced non-Abrahamic religions.
An old classic, the Lex talionis, is believed to originate from Babylonian laws. The Code of Hammurabi should be mentioned as a reference.As an aside, following the rule of laws and frowning on citizens murdering other citizens seem pretty much embedded in all societies, historically. Including Quran-based societies, and the whole Asian continent long before any Xian missionary came by.
To go back to Babylonians, this "eye for an eye" is often misunderstood. It's not necessarily the culprit who was slapped back. It's someone who is to the culprit, what the victim was to the plaintiff.In a documentary I watched, this was illustrated by the case of someone who lost his son to a collapsing building accident. The sentence was for the son of the guilty architect to be killed.Heck of a deterrent if you love your children, but I would hesitate to call that justice.I suspect a loophole - looks like a sure way to get rid of your mother-in-law. Just kill someone's else MIL.Although I also suspect the judges back then were no more suffering bullshit from plaintiffs and defendants than they are now.
The only theological discussions I want to hear in a public school are the kind I heard yesterday, when two second-graders were debating "if God poops."
(I posed the existence of New Jersey as proof and they did not seem to understand my reasoning. But, of course, they're not New Yorkers.)
Thank you Ivan, I had not before in my life identified this particular word: their. THEIR creator. That's how deeply I have been indoctrinated into this christian nationalist crap by osmosis. I'm old; you've been a great help in my understanding!
The revisionist historian David Barton and his Christian nationalist bullshit strikes again!
Well, people *do* seem to obsess over their royals. (I thought the whole 1776 thing was to get rid of them forever, but that's just me.)
Interesting, because I am on Cayuga land, but then I am 65. If you are younger, maybe they don't teach these things like they did when I was in school, and I might not know as I don't have any children. Of course there's plenty of Cayuga land, and maybe your local schools didn't teach what I beleived was statewide
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I think Bart ripped off Jimmy Stewart’s prayer in “Shenandoah”
Paraphrase:
Thank you lord for this food. We tilled the field, planted the seed and harvested the crops. We did all the work, but we thank you just the same”
This does not surprise me when the only lasting change from the Parkland shooting was a plaque in Florida schools saying "In god we trust". Which should be illegal in a public school.
I'm not that much younger. Tho to be fair, I 1) have absolutely the long-term memory of a goldfish, but also 2) went to an experimental school grades K-5 so a lot of things other kids were learning then I didn't (but also vice-versa).
You said Michelle Bachmann should move back to Iowa
They had murder trials in Ancient Greece! And probably many other ancient places that had no idea about any Ten Commandments and practiced non-Abrahamic religions.
An old classic, the Lex talionis, is believed to originate from Babylonian laws. The Code of Hammurabi should be mentioned as a reference.As an aside, following the rule of laws and frowning on citizens murdering other citizens seem pretty much embedded in all societies, historically. Including Quran-based societies, and the whole Asian continent long before any Xian missionary came by.
To go back to Babylonians, this "eye for an eye" is often misunderstood. It's not necessarily the culprit who was slapped back. It's someone who is to the culprit, what the victim was to the plaintiff.In a documentary I watched, this was illustrated by the case of someone who lost his son to a collapsing building accident. The sentence was for the son of the guilty architect to be killed.Heck of a deterrent if you love your children, but I would hesitate to call that justice.I suspect a loophole - looks like a sure way to get rid of your mother-in-law. Just kill someone's else MIL.Although I also suspect the judges back then were no more suffering bullshit from plaintiffs and defendants than they are now.
VERY mysterious!
The only theological discussions I want to hear in a public school are the kind I heard yesterday, when two second-graders were debating "if God poops."
(I posed the existence of New Jersey as proof and they did not seem to understand my reasoning. But, of course, they're not New Yorkers.)
Remote/zoom based kindergarten is going to produce and entire generation of students confused in this precise way. Definitely.
Thank you Ivan, I had not before in my life identified this particular word: their. THEIR creator. That's how deeply I have been indoctrinated into this christian nationalist crap by osmosis. I'm old; you've been a great help in my understanding!
The Catholic work ethic is of course best demonstrated by those layabout Irish and Italian drunkards.
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Hey! Us Irish are hard worki- oh fuck all, my beer spilled