Jerri Collins is a judge in Seminole County, Florida. She was appointed by Jeb Bush, and she is literally the biggest asshole judge we have ever laid eyes upon, at least since this other asshole judge who threw three kids in juvie for not wanting to have lunch with their dad. So
Gee, I'm sure there isn't another side to your "story". Probably a truer one. And your---i know someone who got fucked by the legal system so everyone else should be--attitude is certainly a winning one.
Think what you fucking want. Seeing as how she got CPS involved on HIS side, this shit became my business too. Like I said he is a dick, but let's not pretend there aren't people out there sick and twisted enough to pull these kind of games.
Regardless, the court rules are the court rules and she broke court rules. Boo hoo. The judge did the right thing.
I don't disagree on a certain level, but for me, personally, unless this judge has previous, I'm going to assume there's more to it to make her take such an extreme step.If that makes me an asshole in this comments section, at least I'm a consistent one when it comes to court etiquette. :)
Keep confirming your inability to look at this rationally. Be bitter--which you really really are--but this woman isn't the right target. There were many ways the judge could have made her point--she just picked an unnecessary one. And as a lawyer, I say that with considerable experience appreciating how the system runs and how it needs to run.
With today's technology, a victim who is in fear of her/his life should not be forced to appear physically in the court room. S/he can very easily make their testimony remotely.
This is very true. In fact when I did jury service a few years ago, the mother was protected by a screen/curtain in court from being in view of the defendant, and the young teenage girl who was present at the time of the incident in question gave evidence via closed circuit tv from somewhere else.
Hmm. I think the fuck her part has been misconstrued, I do not mean that to the lady of the story. She may not be like the crazy bitch I am dealing with. I don't know her or the details of her relationship. What I do know is that she blatantly didn't show up to court.
What I also know is that I have seen way way way too much of the worst of humanity. Rape, murder, molestation, drug sale & use, robbery, theft in multiple degrees, assault, all within my direct vicinity; own family, and neighborhoods I have lived in. Yes, domestic abuse too. I handed my mother the chef knife she used to stab my step father with. I ran away so I did not witness the actual stabbing, but I ended up being the one making the 911 call, and the one who had to clean up the blood the next day.
Yes, there are women and men scared to leave their situation and don't want to prosecute, or go back to their abusers. I am not an idiot, I know they exist and that there is an emotional toll. It took me decades to break ties with my own abuser (Mom). My step dad and mother are still together and still beating the shit out of each other. I also know there are people who use the court system as another play thing. My mother and this new crazy girl my ex drug into my life are that type.
I am cynical. I usually blow it off with sarcasm, cuss words, and thousands of dollars in therapy. But if going through the childhood that I did taught me anything; it was that you don't want to end up in front of a judge. And if by chance, you do; you better be damn sure you make an excellent impression and show the proper respect if you want to walk out of the courtroom on your own free will.
Which is the crux of the matter here. It doesn't matter that she was abused, or homeless, or broke. What matters is that she was supposed to be at court when a judge said be at court.
She didn't show the proper respect that the judge demands of her courtroom. The judge will make her pay for it and the judge will never give a flying fuck if anyone else has a problem with it.
*sigh* There are ALWAYS those - even in liberal Wonketteria - who can't help themselves with an "authority figure humiliates ordinary person" story, but jump right in to say "this may not be what this seems/I feel for the victim, but.../authority figures have tough jobs..."
Everyone wants tough guys to kick ass at ordinary people's expense. And that's why Donald Trump is ahead in the polls, and also why liberals bent over for Dubya after 9/11. Authoritarian, power-worshipping mental programming.
Hit yourself a lot? Bump into something repeatedly? I don't know.I bruise myself on accident all the time, but I don't have it in me to do it on purpose. Regardless, you just need bruises to appear for it to be believable. The Texas law on domestic violence is actually really broad, yelling too closely is considered offensive contact with your spouse and arrest-able, as well as scrapes and bruises. Class A misdemeanor. Conviction means the second time is a felony and jail time for sure. Obviously I am for spouse beaters to be arrested and held accountable. However, it leaves a lot of potential for the worst type of people.
Those victims are extremely brave but there are different dynamics in the U.S. domestic abuse case. In any domestic violence case I think.
Gee, I'm sure there isn't another side to your "story". Probably a truer one. And your---i know someone who got fucked by the legal system so everyone else should be--attitude is certainly a winning one.
Think what you fucking want. Seeing as how she got CPS involved on HIS side, this shit became my business too. Like I said he is a dick, but let's not pretend there aren't people out there sick and twisted enough to pull these kind of games.
Regardless, the court rules are the court rules and she broke court rules. Boo hoo. The judge did the right thing.
I don't disagree on a certain level, but for me, personally, unless this judge has previous, I'm going to assume there's more to it to make her take such an extreme step.If that makes me an asshole in this comments section, at least I'm a consistent one when it comes to court etiquette. :)
Keep confirming your inability to look at this rationally. Be bitter--which you really really are--but this woman isn't the right target. There were many ways the judge could have made her point--she just picked an unnecessary one. And as a lawyer, I say that with considerable experience appreciating how the system runs and how it needs to run.
As an "attorney" then you should know a judge can do whatever the hell she wants in her court room and that hello there are rules for a reason. Bye.
With today's technology, a victim who is in fear of her/his life should not be forced to appear physically in the court room. S/he can very easily make their testimony remotely.
Sometimes things aren't as they seem but there's no reason for any of us to conclude that the victim in this story in any way similar to yours.
We are all criminals now.
Except the actual criminals that is.
This is very true. In fact when I did jury service a few years ago, the mother was protected by a screen/curtain in court from being in view of the defendant, and the young teenage girl who was present at the time of the incident in question gave evidence via closed circuit tv from somewhere else.
The whole 'not believing the rape victim' thing is so weird.Is it slut-shaming/blaming or what, I just don't know. :/
Hmm. I think the fuck her part has been misconstrued, I do not mean that to the lady of the story. She may not be like the crazy bitch I am dealing with. I don't know her or the details of her relationship. What I do know is that she blatantly didn't show up to court.
What I also know is that I have seen way way way too much of the worst of humanity. Rape, murder, molestation, drug sale & use, robbery, theft in multiple degrees, assault, all within my direct vicinity; own family, and neighborhoods I have lived in. Yes, domestic abuse too. I handed my mother the chef knife she used to stab my step father with. I ran away so I did not witness the actual stabbing, but I ended up being the one making the 911 call, and the one who had to clean up the blood the next day.
Yes, there are women and men scared to leave their situation and don't want to prosecute, or go back to their abusers. I am not an idiot, I know they exist and that there is an emotional toll. It took me decades to break ties with my own abuser (Mom). My step dad and mother are still together and still beating the shit out of each other. I also know there are people who use the court system as another play thing. My mother and this new crazy girl my ex drug into my life are that type.
I am cynical. I usually blow it off with sarcasm, cuss words, and thousands of dollars in therapy. But if going through the childhood that I did taught me anything; it was that you don't want to end up in front of a judge. And if by chance, you do; you better be damn sure you make an excellent impression and show the proper respect if you want to walk out of the courtroom on your own free will.
Which is the crux of the matter here. It doesn't matter that she was abused, or homeless, or broke. What matters is that she was supposed to be at court when a judge said be at court.
She didn't show the proper respect that the judge demands of her courtroom. The judge will make her pay for it and the judge will never give a flying fuck if anyone else has a problem with it.
"she beat herself up"
...?!? Exactly how do you do that? Carved a backwards [your ex's initial] onto her face?
*sigh* There are ALWAYS those - even in liberal Wonketteria - who can't help themselves with an "authority figure humiliates ordinary person" story, but jump right in to say "this may not be what this seems/I feel for the victim, but.../authority figures have tough jobs..."
Everyone wants tough guys to kick ass at ordinary people's expense. And that's why Donald Trump is ahead in the polls, and also why liberals bent over for Dubya after 9/11. Authoritarian, power-worshipping mental programming.
Hit yourself a lot? Bump into something repeatedly? I don't know.I bruise myself on accident all the time, but I don't have it in me to do it on purpose. Regardless, you just need bruises to appear for it to be believable. The Texas law on domestic violence is actually really broad, yelling too closely is considered offensive contact with your spouse and arrest-able, as well as scrapes and bruises. Class A misdemeanor. Conviction means the second time is a felony and jail time for sure. Obviously I am for spouse beaters to be arrested and held accountable. However, it leaves a lot of potential for the worst type of people.
Any legal recourse at all for this woman? At the very least a complaint to the Bar association? A review of the judge's court room conduct?