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Some kind of Fred's avatar

The "damaged" part at least would be typical. Where I live, 85% of LWOP prisoners came out of the foster care system. One capital attorney described his clients as having "layers of abuse, like an onion".

Fortunately we can protect ourselves from these people without killing.

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Some kind of Fred's avatar

Even people who find it moral per se should take a look at how carelessly it's administered.

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3. is the reason WA no longer has a death penalty.

It was being saved for "aggravated murder", with the jury deciding about the aggravating factors.

Then someone studied the cases and found no relation between a finding of aggravated murder and the facts of the crime.

The state Supreme Court heard both sides and unanimously (IIRC) threw out the death penalty law.

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Some kind of Fred's avatar

Who was it who pointed out that if people keep bursting into tears around you then you should reflect on why you're causing it?

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I will not even ask and certainly not opine, but send you my hopes for as much healing as is possible.

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Alta'sFolly's avatar

I think they’re “proprietary “ and I do not kid on that. Like we’re buying a secret blend of herbal tea instead of putting a person to death. I’m fairly certain that Missouri doesn’t release their cocktail.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Robyn. It's the guns.

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Momo's avatar

Thank you. You really are a kind Fred!

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Bageled Mind Virus's avatar

chances are that they'd get into even more trouble if they'd disclose it, plus there is the whole sunken cost "we're already in way too deep"-dynamic.

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sarah_kay_gee ⚜️🏰⭐'s avatar

murder victims' families in Minnesota, where the death penalty is illegal, demonstrated “higher levels of physical, psychological and behavioral health,” than those in Texas, where it is not

This doesn't surprise me at all. Capital punishment is something that only happens at the end of a grueling, often decades-long appeals process. The loved ones of murder victims have to keep dealing with the murder for the rest of their lives. There's never a point at which they can put it in the past and move forward.

Of course, you can't use this in argument with bloodthirsty conservatives, because their answer would be to not have appeals and just shoot the convicted person in the courtroom the second the verdict is handed in.

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Dr. Rrrrrobotnik's avatar

Were I in a state where the death penalty exists, it wouldn't deter me from committing the crime, for the simple reason that basically no criminal commits a crime if they think they'll be caught.

It would just deter me from being taken alive.

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AttyInBriefs's avatar

Is your lawn in Fort Lauderdale?

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Lawyers, Guns n' Money's avatar

Not a single ellipsisisisis.............. in the entire post. It's definitely a parody.

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zuludaddy (see, man? qi!)'s avatar

apparently the two of them were busy driving around town together and had a spat that ended with a stabbing

going to go ahead and guess cocaine had some role here

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gallbladder's avatar

I must ask, for I always wonder about it. Many who advocate for the death penalty argue for it from a point of closure. I fail to see how anyone who continues to lament the death of a loved one might achieve it by way of capital punishment in re-living their sadness with or without it.

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Mr Canoehead/M Tête-Canoë's avatar

That's got to be fake. Not even Trump would be that stupid.

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