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Wookiee Monster's avatar

Epstein was the Forest Gump of sex traffickers. Heโ€™s met everybody.

Is Gary Sinise in the files?

Runfastandwin's avatar

which again begs the question, wtaf was Biden doing for FOUR GD YEARS?!? every day that goes by I think less of him.

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

At least other stories from the past are getting dug up.

๐˜’๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜”๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ: ๐˜๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ฆ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜บ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ

๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜Œ๐˜ฑ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜จ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ 25 ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฃ๐˜บ ๐˜ข โ€˜๐˜๐˜ฐ๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜ฆโ€™ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜บ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ต๐˜บ, ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜บ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด. ๐˜’๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฆ ๐˜™๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ฌ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ด ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ช๐˜ค ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜บ

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๐˜‰๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ ๐˜ข 2022 ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ท๐˜ช๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ, ๐˜ˆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ค๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง๐˜ง ๐˜”๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณโ€™๐˜ด ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฌ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฌ ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ธ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ท๐˜ฆ. โ€œ๐˜š๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฅ ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ด, ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ฆ,โ€ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฅ, ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ โ€œ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฃ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จโ€ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฑ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/karen-mulder-model-industry-whistleblower-jeffrey-epstein-b2918369.html

ManchuCandidate's avatar

Obviously, some folks never met a narcissist up close and personal. Cokehead Narcissist put on a facade of being a charming, caring, loving person and I was lonely enough to reach for it. By the time I realized what an unholy fucking mess I was in, it wasn't easy to bail out.

Eureka's avatar
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Our wants and needs make us reach for the stars! They also make us vulnerable. We should probably teach this to our young people more clearly.

Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Gary. Let me remind everyone that Miami Herald did stellar reporting on Epstein-Trump, back when it SHOULD have counted for something, like keeping That Thing in the Offal Office from becoming POTUS. What broke up the Epstein-Trump friendship was the deflowering of a 13 year old virgin. Epstein was keeping her for himself, and Trump fucked her. Friendship over. Recently at a dinner with someone who used to work in news, he said Trump told Epstein, "I did it because you're a Jew." I don't know whether that's true, but the rest of it is totally true.

M-X's avatar
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Raped her.

I read the coverage Julie Brown did in Miami back then. But they both raped her according to her legal filings. But she said Trump was enraged Epstein raped her first, when the "deal" they had was that Trump would get to rape her as a virgin. Trump also threatened her life, her family's lives and punched her in the face. A child.

Thesaurus Wrecks's avatar

Buffalo Bill is woke? Very cool!

Itโ€™s F*cking Wrongโ€™: Hollywood Star Apologizes to Transgender People for Playing โ€˜F*cked Upโ€™ Crossdressing Serial Killer in โ€˜Silence of the Lambsโ€™

https://www.mediaite.com/media/entertainment/its-fcking-wrong-hollywood-star-apologizes-to-transgender-people-for-playing-fcked-up-crossdressing-serial-killer-in-silence-of-the-lambs/

Shallow state's avatar

I have been simply livid since Saturday when someone non-commented in the Happy Hour thread a media report that introduced its subject as "... disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein ... " I vented a bit on one thing that is so deeply bad-faith about that framing in the thread - it's equivalent to introducing Jeffrey Dahmer as a "disgraced choclatier" - but it has continued churning in me since then. Among other things, it subtly confers a kind of legitimacy on Epstein and his coterie, that would never be granted, for instance, to a poor, immigrant, unconnected, pedophile-rapist (if there were such a monster) and those who protected and covered for him.

But there is another essential side of this euphemistic, gaslighting wordsmithing: "disgraced financier". It is a sort of implicit "surprised face" that someone in the "respectable" financier space has been disgraced: essentially,

"we are shocked, shocked I tell you, that someone in this trusted profession [whose almost entire motivation is to amass obscene personal wealth and influence primarily by trading on the obscene wealth and influence of others, unambiguously making the world a worse place for, and exploiting the vast majority of humanity] turned out to be acting in a way that some find distasteful."

As though,

"but for the bad apple Epstein, owning islands and yachts and jets, and trading in influence, and evading taxes, and fraud, and bribery, and corruption, and exploiting two tier justice, and privatizing profits and socializing losses, and destroying the planet, and amassing obscene personal wealth establishes financiers as moral exemplars".

Jeffrey Epstein was how "smart" people exercised what they considered their rights. Being a financier was not coincidental; it was absolutely integral to how Epstein's empire of harm and abuse was assembled and operated.

Writing this hasn't helped much. I am still livid.

BlueStateLibel's avatar

She certainly didn't have experience with men pursuing her, because she would have known that men showering a woman with gifts is a red flag. They're not just doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. You would think Miss Fancy Pants who thought she was so superior would have known that.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

I suspect she was under no illusions, but always believed she could outsmart the men. She would have to have been at least as smart, at least in part, to rise to and stay in many of the jobs she had.

BlueStateLibel's avatar

She sounds extremely naive from her behavior with the Pedo man. But he took in lots of men, too, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

โ€œUncle Jeffreyโ€ is not a nickname that ages well.

Itโ€™s wild how many brilliant, hyper-credentialed adults suddenly lost the ability to Google. Flowers, Hermรจs bags, private jetsโ€ฆ and somehow no one thought, โ€œHuh. This feels like villain energy.โ€

The real tragedy isnโ€™t just the crimes. Itโ€™s the chorus of powerful people who decided proximity to money was worth proximity to rot.

Smart people arenโ€™t immune to corruption. Theyโ€™re just better at rationalizing it.

If your friend needs to upgrade your flight and check first-class availability for you, maybe also check their moral class.

Blessed are the ones who can spot a predator before accepting the Apple Watch.

Pauly2coffees's avatar

Some of those people are complicit in his crimes. They just havenโ€™t been charged.

SethTriggs's avatar

My assumption is all these people are going to lay low for a few months and then end up in another C-suite.

Goodness it's like every goddamn industry is six degrees of Jeffrey Epstein (and of course the dead scumbag's scumbag-in-arms, our illustrious pricktator).

The G-7 Experience's avatar

She is wealthy enough to fuck off into the Sun with millions -

Rocket Cat's avatar

Whatever you do, if an Epstein Class personage offers you something to eat, say no.

Always Be Ithacating's avatar

Or drink. Especially drink.

Pauly2coffees's avatar

Live your life so that you arenโ€™t showered with gifts by infamous pedophiles.

Linoleum von Curmudgeon, Esq.'s avatar

The older countries in Europe have cities built on many centuries of ruins. Paris, London, Barcelona, Rome, Prague etc etc etc. have elaborate tunnels, crypts, labyrinths and whole arched arcades underneath them. They even have guided tours so curious Americans can gape at the wonders.

I do not know how our ruling class ever thought "no one will find out" what is in the Trump-Epstein files.

EVERYTHING hidden eventually comes to light. We couldn't even keep the secrets of atomic bombs safe. How the fuck did they think that all this stuff would not get revealed?

Eureka's avatar

Do lavish gifts make you think of Jugurtha and question their intentions, or think โ€œI deserve this!โ€, or think โ€œThis stinks, but Iโ€™ll go ahead and pocket it one last timeโ€ ?

Eureka's avatar

With digital footprints, cameras, DNA?

SkeptiKC's avatar

Unprecedented arrogance, that's how.

lotsacatsndogs's avatar

Yep. Just didn't know it was so widespread, and still wonder if it was innate or "learned" with some of these chuds.

Georgiaburning's avatar

Such an epidemic of loneliness, disaffection and social isolation of our multimillionaires, sigh. So they turned to Epstein who offered them rape island??? Excuse me?

R. Riddle's avatar

Won't anyone feel pity for the lonely multimillionaires?

RRJKR's avatar

Powerful, wealthy men who have the emotional maturity of adolescent boys 14 year olds with no parental supervision.

RRJKR's avatar

As a man, I have NO sympathy for any of the men who participated in any of this. I don't give a damn who they are, what Party they belong to or what political ideology they hold. A middle aged man wanting to have sex with a 16 year old girl is just a disgusting human being I have a moral problem with prostitution in general If you have to pay someone to have sex with you, maybe you should just remain celibate. Likewise, powerful men using their position to obtain self gratifying sexual favors is reprehensible Case in point, Clinton's affair with Lewinsky really shattered my opinion of him

VaselineHabits's avatar

Also disheartening that a few people from the Clinton Admin have showed up in the files.

The rot has been there for decades and they all need to be held accountable

RRJKR's avatar

If you are so not in control of your impulses, you have no business having the public trust.

Maryann Evans's avatar

Fact check: the prominent lawyer works for Paul Weiss, not Paul Davis, and while did he resign as the head of the firm, he did not resign as a partner and continued to practice at Paul Weiss and rake in millions each year.