Yup. They murdered Floyd over a SUSPECTED misdemeanor charge. Floyd wouldn't have done jail time over it if he was even guilty (Lots of fake $20's out there, and we don't know we got them) .
And funny how that $20 just disappeared into the aether and was never verified, ain't it?
As I write, the Chauvin defense has "expert" who claims that Mr. Floyd died because he had heart condition and took drugs that made his heart condition worse. I don't get it! How would any police officer know that any person they want arrest might not have underlying health conditions? That is a good reason NOT to chock the F**K out of someone, ever! It is not an excuse to murder someone with life threating choke holds.The defense seems to suggest that if Mr. Floyd were a healthier person, he MIGHT have survived.
I read a book once about the history of torture and executions, from which I learned that when a person is crucified, they die in a way not dissimilar to the way George Floyd died, except that crucifixion took a lot longer than 9 minutes.
The weight of the body pulling down on the arms makes breathing extremely difficult, and the heart and lungs stop working as blood is drained through wounds.Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300-400BC and developed, during Roman times, into a punishment for the most serious of criminals. The amount of time it took victims to die depended on how they were crucified. Those accused of robbery were often tied to the crucifix and, because they could better support their weight with their arms, and they might survive for several days. One of the most severe methods of crucifixion put the arms straight above the victim. That can kill in 10 minutes to half an hour - it's impossible to breathe under those conditions. Someone nailed to a crucifix with their arms stretched out on either side could expect to live for no more than 24 hours.The feet were nailed to the upright part of the crucifix, so that the knees were bent at around 45 degrees. To speed death, executioners would often break the legs of their victims to give no chance of using their thigh muscles as support. Once the legs gave out, the weight would be transferred to the arms, gradually dragging the shoulders from their sockets. The elbows and wrists would follow a few minutes later; by now, the arms would be six or seven inches longer. The victim would have no choice but to bear his weight on his chest. He would immediately have trouble breathing as the weight caused the rib cage to lift up and force him into an almost perpetual state of inhalation. Suffocation would usually follow, but the relief of death could also arrive in other ways. The resultant lack of oxygen in the blood would cause damage to tissues and blood vessels, allowing fluid to diffuse out of the blood into tissues, including the lungs and the sac around the heart. This would make the lungs stiffer and make breathing even more difficult, and the pressure around the heart would impair its pumping.So basically, George Floyd was crucified.
I once had an experience while working with special needs residents in a group home. On my first day, a resident’s care staff stepped away from them for a second, talking with the caregiver showing me around. The resident suddenly grabbed me by my hair on the top of my head with both his hands, forced me to the ground, and pinned my head to my chest with his weight. I couldn’t call out for help because I couldn’t take in air, and I couldn’t take my hands off his hands long enough to defend myself, lest I risk losing what little resistance to that weight I had to keep him from snapping my neck. So, we sat in silence until the staff came around the corner and noticed us.
That was very scary. At a point, I recognized there wasn’t anything else I could do, physically my body wanted to fight but couldn’t, and mentally I had to keep focusing on trying to be tactical about how to survive without simply giving up. All I had left was to keep attempting to get enough air to scream for help, but there just wasn’t any. That incident felt like 10 minutes, but in reality was probably only one or two. It makes me ill to think that Floyd went through 10 minutes of this feeling, only briefly sustained by the small gasps of air they let him have to cry for help. I didn’t get even one cry out. He reached that point slowly, agonizing every time he succeeded and nobody responded to help get him air, mentally knowing he was being heard, despite his body telling him he wasn’t. It was a horrible death.
That’s why they are taught not to take risks of this nature when subduing suspects. It’s exactly because they have no way of knowing how fragile someone might be, and at least on paper, their job is to bring them in for processing without killing them. They don’t teach chokeholds. When asked what their written policies for physical restraints are, and what they teach in training, the police forces have not always been forthcoming with the information. They know they aren’t supposed to be promoting these submission moves.
I can't listen to today's testimony. It's a bunch of horseshit about how Chauvin's actions were PERFECTLY FINE. If that's true then I need to get my ass to Canada.
The defense dude said about 20% of the body weight would be transferred to the neck from the defendant's knee. Get a plastic peanut butter jar, put it side ways on a bath scale and lean on it with one knee - see if you get about 45% of your weight just on one knee - of course there was knee on his back too.
I think the police officer is going to be found guilty. The testimony for the prosecution was strong and the expert witnesses for the defense were dissembling.
Spear pokes were usually employed to confirm that that victim had died. If no blood spurted out of the wound, they knew the victim was dead.
Leg breaking was the primary means of speeding the death. Crucifixions were meant to be gruesome, painful, and humiliating. These types of executions served as a warning to the still living: Don't fuck with our authori-tah or you'll end up like this. That's why they often left the bodies hanging to be picked over by carrion birds.
Just to add to the information, Fentanyl is manufactured to be dosed in milligrams/milliliters. The last i saw, and you all correct me, the amount of Fent in George Floyd at autopsy was 8 nanograms. So if my imperfect math is tolerated, 1 nanogram is the equivalent to 1 mg-6, so 1ng equivs to 10,000,000 of a milligram.
Yeah, it's murder.
Yup. They murdered Floyd over a SUSPECTED misdemeanor charge. Floyd wouldn't have done jail time over it if he was even guilty (Lots of fake $20's out there, and we don't know we got them) .
And funny how that $20 just disappeared into the aether and was never verified, ain't it?
As I write, the Chauvin defense has "expert" who claims that Mr. Floyd died because he had heart condition and took drugs that made his heart condition worse. I don't get it! How would any police officer know that any person they want arrest might not have underlying health conditions? That is a good reason NOT to chock the F**K out of someone, ever! It is not an excuse to murder someone with life threating choke holds.The defense seems to suggest that if Mr. Floyd were a healthier person, he MIGHT have survived.
I read a book once about the history of torture and executions, from which I learned that when a person is crucified, they die in a way not dissimilar to the way George Floyd died, except that crucifixion took a lot longer than 9 minutes.
How did crucifixion kill?https://www.theguardian.com...
The weight of the body pulling down on the arms makes breathing extremely difficult, and the heart and lungs stop working as blood is drained through wounds.Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300-400BC and developed, during Roman times, into a punishment for the most serious of criminals. The amount of time it took victims to die depended on how they were crucified. Those accused of robbery were often tied to the crucifix and, because they could better support their weight with their arms, and they might survive for several days. One of the most severe methods of crucifixion put the arms straight above the victim. That can kill in 10 minutes to half an hour - it's impossible to breathe under those conditions. Someone nailed to a crucifix with their arms stretched out on either side could expect to live for no more than 24 hours.The feet were nailed to the upright part of the crucifix, so that the knees were bent at around 45 degrees. To speed death, executioners would often break the legs of their victims to give no chance of using their thigh muscles as support. Once the legs gave out, the weight would be transferred to the arms, gradually dragging the shoulders from their sockets. The elbows and wrists would follow a few minutes later; by now, the arms would be six or seven inches longer. The victim would have no choice but to bear his weight on his chest. He would immediately have trouble breathing as the weight caused the rib cage to lift up and force him into an almost perpetual state of inhalation. Suffocation would usually follow, but the relief of death could also arrive in other ways. The resultant lack of oxygen in the blood would cause damage to tissues and blood vessels, allowing fluid to diffuse out of the blood into tissues, including the lungs and the sac around the heart. This would make the lungs stiffer and make breathing even more difficult, and the pressure around the heart would impair its pumping.So basically, George Floyd was crucified.
To be fair, they're not portraying it as anything desirable.
I once had an experience while working with special needs residents in a group home. On my first day, a resident’s care staff stepped away from them for a second, talking with the caregiver showing me around. The resident suddenly grabbed me by my hair on the top of my head with both his hands, forced me to the ground, and pinned my head to my chest with his weight. I couldn’t call out for help because I couldn’t take in air, and I couldn’t take my hands off his hands long enough to defend myself, lest I risk losing what little resistance to that weight I had to keep him from snapping my neck. So, we sat in silence until the staff came around the corner and noticed us.
That was very scary. At a point, I recognized there wasn’t anything else I could do, physically my body wanted to fight but couldn’t, and mentally I had to keep focusing on trying to be tactical about how to survive without simply giving up. All I had left was to keep attempting to get enough air to scream for help, but there just wasn’t any. That incident felt like 10 minutes, but in reality was probably only one or two. It makes me ill to think that Floyd went through 10 minutes of this feeling, only briefly sustained by the small gasps of air they let him have to cry for help. I didn’t get even one cry out. He reached that point slowly, agonizing every time he succeeded and nobody responded to help get him air, mentally knowing he was being heard, despite his body telling him he wasn’t. It was a horrible death.
That’s why they are taught not to take risks of this nature when subduing suspects. It’s exactly because they have no way of knowing how fragile someone might be, and at least on paper, their job is to bring them in for processing without killing them. They don’t teach chokeholds. When asked what their written policies for physical restraints are, and what they teach in training, the police forces have not always been forthcoming with the information. They know they aren’t supposed to be promoting these submission moves.
I can't listen to today's testimony. It's a bunch of horseshit about how Chauvin's actions were PERFECTLY FINE. If that's true then I need to get my ass to Canada.
The defense dude said about 20% of the body weight would be transferred to the neck from the defendant's knee. Get a plastic peanut butter jar, put it side ways on a bath scale and lean on it with one knee - see if you get about 45% of your weight just on one knee - of course there was knee on his back too.
Everyone has a right to a defense but it doesn't mean I have to like the tactics they're doing either.
I think the police officer is going to be found guilty. The testimony for the prosecution was strong and the expert witnesses for the defense were dissembling.
Spear pokes were usually employed to confirm that that victim had died. If no blood spurted out of the wound, they knew the victim was dead.
Leg breaking was the primary means of speeding the death. Crucifixions were meant to be gruesome, painful, and humiliating. These types of executions served as a warning to the still living: Don't fuck with our authori-tah or you'll end up like this. That's why they often left the bodies hanging to be picked over by carrion birds.
In case you were wondering whether there was anything other than "owning the libs" at this point...
https://twitter.com/VeraciN...
Veraci Nullatenus sure has quite the timelime.
Just to add to the information, Fentanyl is manufactured to be dosed in milligrams/milliliters. The last i saw, and you all correct me, the amount of Fent in George Floyd at autopsy was 8 nanograms. So if my imperfect math is tolerated, 1 nanogram is the equivalent to 1 mg-6, so 1ng equivs to 10,000,000 of a milligram.
nano is one to the negative ninth, so a millionth of a milligram. a very very low amount in any case.