<The Washington Post also pointed out: “Talarico, a state lawmaker and seminarian, has been surging in polls against Ken Paxton, the state’s scandal-plagued attorney general. But some strategists say they have not seen similar enthusiasm with Black voters, many of whom supported Crockett in the primary.” This would have been a good place to quote Talarico’s poll numbers with Black voters, but that would have interrupted the WaPo narrative.
So instead they continued, “Her March primary with Talarico was beset by questions of race and gender, as Crockett accused Talarico of supporting ads against her that she called “straight-up racist.’” They didn’t elaborate on that either. A mention is enough.
And, “Some strategists say?” That’s a little vague to build a story around; especially when they didn’t mention the Fox poll which, again, showed Talarico at 87% support among Black voters.>
The GOP can't use racist tactics if she isn't actively campaigning with him. This may be a backroom agreement (I have no inside knowledge) and a shrewd move. Sad that race still plays a big part but look what happened to Harris, and yes, misogyny played a large part in that also.
Jasmine - Jasmine Crockett! Queen of the wild frontier....
Hmph. Well, that's disappointing. Maybe they had an argument at some point, or maybe he was being a dick about something. There are no other viable Dem candidates to support though, right? I don't know what she's thinking. Now is the time for all good Dems to come to the aid of their party.
Not sure why folks think this "Hawks game" stuff will hurt Schmitt's chances to be VP. The current VP lied about immigrants eating pets and that didn't disqualify him. MAGA doesn't care.
Meanwhile on rightwing social media, they're all giving Schmitt high-fives because nobody's talking about what really went down. They're congratulating him as if he had his GOTCHA moment regardless of the fact that it fell apart.
NYT: "Senator Eric Schmitt’s accusation that Smith attended an N.B.A. game in Atlanta to secretly meet with prosecutors pursuing Trump there — which appeared to immediately fall apart — is overshadowing every other exchange at the hearing on social media. It has the potential to undermine Republican efforts to demolish Smith’s credibility by demonstrating a carelessness with basic facts."
Yeah, they're talking about it on the Benny Johnson show with Schmitt himself. They're just not telling anybody about the part where Smith was at a different game in a different state. They're pretending the GOTCHA was a real GOTCHA.
How long did it take to get RU-486 approved? Oh, that’s right, muppet impersonator in. a naval uniform Everett Koop was Surgeon General in the Reagan Years. (And Republicans had a problem with Jocelyn Elders?) Hey, remember back in the 1970s, when James Kilpatrick was arguing in National Review fot the right of cancer patients to take apricot pits, aka Laetrile, as a freedom of choice issue. Where are those Libertarians with their “over his own body, the individual is supreme, including cigarette smoking” bushwa when you need them? How about we trade mifepristone (safe and effective for 50 years, especially in treatment of miscarriages, aka spontaneous abortions, aka God’s Will) for tobacco (neither food product or drug product, can’t be regulated by FDA, only taxed by ATF, known carcinogen and mutagen,even by second handsmoke). If they get to ban Mifeprestone, we get to ban tobacco. Also alcohol. Alcohol: causes more fatalities than Mifeprestone causes abortions. Prohibition: it’s Pro-life. Come on, Candy Lightner! People can’t drive drunk if they can’t buy or drink alcohol. Come on, Archbishop Cordileone. Sacrifice that Eucharistic Wine for Grape Juice.
Ok, out of left field, thank you for the apricot pit explanation because I remember a discussion about it in Doonsbury from my youth and I never really understood what the reference was about. Like Uncle Duke was opening an apricot farm. Might have even been referenced in Where the Buffalo Roam.
And teen pregnancy, which I was raised hearing in florid and convincing detail was A Bad Thing. It’s a weird to see right wing people trying to get more extremely young girls impregnated. Lolwhut?
Their real plan is to make us all as poor as an undeveloped nation. That will cure the population crisis. Low income countries have 4.30 children per women. High income countries average 1.48. 2.1 is the number needed to maintain population. The US is currently at 1.63 and holding steady...
The problem with 'nanny state' arguments against (sincere) anti-choice people is that they see the fetus as a separate person, and therefore abortion as murder. Accusations of 'nanny state' hypocrisy don't work, because these people aren't arguing that prosecution of murder is some sort of 'nanny state' imposition on personal rights.
The only possibly productive line of argument, it seems to me, is to get down to the medical nitty-gritty of the developing fetus. Make it clear that there are no pain receptors before 24 weeks. show the research that demonstrates there is no prefrontal cortex to speak of before 26 weeks. What is being aborted is a potential human, perhaps, but not a present one.
This will not move the soul-enters-at-conception crowd, of course. Nor will it move the sex-negative sexist assholes who hide their misogynistic agenda behind save-the-babies talk. But it might - just might - move some people who just hate 'murder' and haven't really thought this issue through.
You’re right, because to a misogynistic asshole, a clump of cells that may become male will always hold more value than the human female person it is growing inside.
Your approach is well reasoned, evidence based and cogent. It will certainly be able to sway people who are reasonable, able to evaluate evidence and value critical thinking.
Let me consult my annotated and cross referenced table of statistics to find the percentage of people in the United States who will be able to appreciate your presentation.
They aren't interested in fetal development. If they were, there wouldn't be "heartbeat in 18 days", a time before the tubes that will become the heart develop.
A lot don't, I'm sure. Maybe most. But I did know some very sweet anti-abortion kids in college. They weren't misogynists. They just had breathless, weepy concern for the poor unborn babies. I think some of those people are reachable.
Possibly. People can be complex. The church I was going to pre-COVID had become rather loudly, "kick all the (Hispanic) asylum seekers out. They aren't doing it the right way." At the same time, they were sheltering one.
If you do reach one, congrats. I suspect that most, even in just that category, will be interested in any sort of counter argument.
OT: Trump is reportedly "unveiling a new AI tool to make it easier to access federal government information." The first thing I am thinking is, how badly designed, inaccurate, privacy-invading, and hackable is this tool? Because for MAGA types, competence is optional, in fact it is suspicious if you have it.
Way for the Tech Bros to harvest info and break the government.
Eventually, applications for government aid will all be done via this portal (they said so today) and you can bet your ass it will be based on harsh algorithms with no human helping to decide.
Another way for the Tech Bros to break democracy and not be subject to "predatory and extortionate" taxes.
"Overton, an abortion opponent who serves as a White House domestic policy adviser on health care, said."
...
We need a :headdesk:-emoji
I thought "Over Ton " was the Secret Services code name for Trump.
Learn something new every day on Wonkette.
Could it be "Brauner Ton"? Because that would explain so much.
The Musk Rat was seated right next to Dump at their fancy Tech Bro luncheon today.
It's a "Who's Who" of Nerd Reich up in that joint.
Was it really necessary to put that Musk Rat Love song in Baconz head?
XD XD XD XD
Captain and Tenille.
The Captain was legit. Real name was Daryl Dragon, the most metal fucking name ever, LOL!
Of course. Circle jerking each other raw.
Jack Smith: “Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in serious crimes against our nation,”
https://youtu.be/lq-e8gWm5Js
THIS all the live long day.
Now PROSECUTE his seditious, criminal, convicted felon motherfucker ass into Leavenworth.
And then MELT DOWN the one and only key.
And Lake Erie is full of water.
Yes, but is it wet?
Needz more 47-57 brunettes #s that are funny and find me attractive.
Just sayin'
In this timeline, Schmitt would still have Jack Smith arrested for going to a Hawks game . . .
Isn't it ridiculous to think that Smith would cook something up with Willis in public at a basketball game instead of just making a phone call?
OT
"It’s Decorative Gourd Season, Motherfuckers"
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/its-decorative-gourd-season-motherfuckers
"Trump to sign Executive Order commanding that henceforth 2 plus 2 shall equal 5. Thank you for your attention on this matter." . . .
That's for loan purposes. Tomorrow, 2 plus 2 will equal 3, for tax purposes.
OT: WTF?
𝗝𝗮𝘀𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗖𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗲𝘁𝘁’𝘀 𝗣𝗔𝗖 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿𝘀𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀. 𝗧𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁. (Washington Post)
I don't think she's OK. There are a couple quotes from her down at the end of this story that are, well, hmm.
https://theaustinindependent.org/crockett-is-helping-talarico-by-not-campaigning-with-him/
Maybe she's not endorsing Talarico because he's asked her to not endorse him, please.
Crockett appears to have flamed out quite spectacularly
That's the Post's take on it. Here's another From the end of August but still relevant.
https://theaustinindependent.org/crockett-is-helping-talarico-by-not-campaigning-with-him/
<The Washington Post also pointed out: “Talarico, a state lawmaker and seminarian, has been surging in polls against Ken Paxton, the state’s scandal-plagued attorney general. But some strategists say they have not seen similar enthusiasm with Black voters, many of whom supported Crockett in the primary.” This would have been a good place to quote Talarico’s poll numbers with Black voters, but that would have interrupted the WaPo narrative.
So instead they continued, “Her March primary with Talarico was beset by questions of race and gender, as Crockett accused Talarico of supporting ads against her that she called “straight-up racist.’” They didn’t elaborate on that either. A mention is enough.
And, “Some strategists say?” That’s a little vague to build a story around; especially when they didn’t mention the Fox poll which, again, showed Talarico at 87% support among Black voters.>
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The GOP can't use racist tactics if she isn't actively campaigning with him. This may be a backroom agreement (I have no inside knowledge) and a shrewd move. Sad that race still plays a big part but look what happened to Harris, and yes, misogyny played a large part in that also.
Jasmine - Jasmine Crockett! Queen of the wild frontier....
Hmph. Well, that's disappointing. Maybe they had an argument at some point, or maybe he was being a dick about something. There are no other viable Dem candidates to support though, right? I don't know what she's thinking. Now is the time for all good Dems to come to the aid of their party.
I just saw this on Pinterest:
"A Narcissist wants the authority of a King and the accountability of a toddler".
Hasan Piker: "You got more of a penalty at Cornell University if you participated in a pro-Palestine student encampment."
Not sure why folks think this "Hawks game" stuff will hurt Schmitt's chances to be VP. The current VP lied about immigrants eating pets and that didn't disqualify him. MAGA doesn't care.
Meanwhile on rightwing social media, they're all giving Schmitt high-fives because nobody's talking about what really went down. They're congratulating him as if he had his GOTCHA moment regardless of the fact that it fell apart.
I'd be congratulating Senator Klobuchar for handing Schmitt his balls.
Lying shamelessly is a requirement in a Republican politician, not a hindrance.
Potato/Potatto -
NYT: "Senator Eric Schmitt’s accusation that Smith attended an N.B.A. game in Atlanta to secretly meet with prosecutors pursuing Trump there — which appeared to immediately fall apart — is overshadowing every other exchange at the hearing on social media. It has the potential to undermine Republican efforts to demolish Smith’s credibility by demonstrating a carelessness with basic facts."
Once again, the fucking 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘕𝘦𝘸 𝘠𝘰𝘳𝘬 𝘛𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 is rooting for the Republican liars.
I don't read it that way. Just the opposite. "It has the potential to undermine Republican efforts"
Didn't just "fall apart" though-it got Klobbered.
Motherfucker called him a dirtbag.
It was a disgusting spectacle.
Your tax dollars at work.
M-f'er wouldn't take it back, either, after being confronted with the truth. So much for courtesy, respect and dignity.
Kick his ass!
The screeching monkeys have to perform for Piggy.
Your tax dollars being wasted. FIFY
Thank you!
Yeah, they're talking about it on the Benny Johnson show with Schmitt himself. They're just not telling anybody about the part where Smith was at a different game in a different state. They're pretending the GOTCHA was a real GOTCHA.
Bless his heart: he thinks he’s ready for primetime.
MAGA hates reality.
And I hate MAGA. The circle is complete.
How long did it take to get RU-486 approved? Oh, that’s right, muppet impersonator in. a naval uniform Everett Koop was Surgeon General in the Reagan Years. (And Republicans had a problem with Jocelyn Elders?) Hey, remember back in the 1970s, when James Kilpatrick was arguing in National Review fot the right of cancer patients to take apricot pits, aka Laetrile, as a freedom of choice issue. Where are those Libertarians with their “over his own body, the individual is supreme, including cigarette smoking” bushwa when you need them? How about we trade mifepristone (safe and effective for 50 years, especially in treatment of miscarriages, aka spontaneous abortions, aka God’s Will) for tobacco (neither food product or drug product, can’t be regulated by FDA, only taxed by ATF, known carcinogen and mutagen,even by second handsmoke). If they get to ban Mifeprestone, we get to ban tobacco. Also alcohol. Alcohol: causes more fatalities than Mifeprestone causes abortions. Prohibition: it’s Pro-life. Come on, Candy Lightner! People can’t drive drunk if they can’t buy or drink alcohol. Come on, Archbishop Cordileone. Sacrifice that Eucharistic Wine for Grape Juice.
Ok, out of left field, thank you for the apricot pit explanation because I remember a discussion about it in Doonsbury from my youth and I never really understood what the reference was about. Like Uncle Duke was opening an apricot farm. Might have even been referenced in Where the Buffalo Roam.
You caught the “his” part. There it is.
Without alcohol, the number of abortions would probably go down naturally...
Not much reduces abortions more than sex-ed and access to birth control.
And teen pregnancy, which I was raised hearing in florid and convincing detail was A Bad Thing. It’s a weird to see right wing people trying to get more extremely young girls impregnated. Lolwhut?
“Pekingese-faced little handmaiden,” a more accurate description never existed.
An insult to Pekingese.....
Their real plan is to make us all as poor as an undeveloped nation. That will cure the population crisis. Low income countries have 4.30 children per women. High income countries average 1.48. 2.1 is the number needed to maintain population. The US is currently at 1.63 and holding steady...
Yeah, but they only want white babbies, not Black or brown ones....
Then we're in real trouble...
The problem with 'nanny state' arguments against (sincere) anti-choice people is that they see the fetus as a separate person, and therefore abortion as murder. Accusations of 'nanny state' hypocrisy don't work, because these people aren't arguing that prosecution of murder is some sort of 'nanny state' imposition on personal rights.
The only possibly productive line of argument, it seems to me, is to get down to the medical nitty-gritty of the developing fetus. Make it clear that there are no pain receptors before 24 weeks. show the research that demonstrates there is no prefrontal cortex to speak of before 26 weeks. What is being aborted is a potential human, perhaps, but not a present one.
This will not move the soul-enters-at-conception crowd, of course. Nor will it move the sex-negative sexist assholes who hide their misogynistic agenda behind save-the-babies talk. But it might - just might - move some people who just hate 'murder' and haven't really thought this issue through.
You’re right, because to a misogynistic asshole, a clump of cells that may become male will always hold more value than the human female person it is growing inside.
I saw a billboard for an anti-abortion group that has a baby on it. The baby is smiling.
The speech bubble says, "I have a heartbeat three weeks after conception!"
Says what now? There isn't even any differentiation of cells for the first three months!
Lies like thees make Birb want to CHOOSE VIOLENCE.
Your approach is well reasoned, evidence based and cogent. It will certainly be able to sway people who are reasonable, able to evaluate evidence and value critical thinking.
Let me consult my annotated and cross referenced table of statistics to find the percentage of people in the United States who will be able to appreciate your presentation.
Here we go. Seven percent.
Now to find a way to reach the other 93 %!
I can loan you one of my walking sticks.
It's been my experience that after a swift swat they shaddup and watch the little birds orbiting their noggin.
"Look stars! Ready when you are, Raoul!"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/quotes/?item=qt0406017&ref_=ext_shr_lnk
...that's a wrap!
Need moar woke virus in the chemtrails.
Perhaps ask Meghan Markle to challenge Taylor Swift to a best three of five arm rasslin debate?
This isn't about babies or fetuses. They don't give a shit about them; otherwise, they'd be funding pre-natal care and Head Start.
This is all about controlling women. Nothing more, nothing less.
"the soul-enters-at-conception crowd"
This is why laws shouldn't be based on religion.
Someone telling me a zygote has a "soul?" By what means exactly does that happen?
Well, early in development, it's actually a 'zoul.'
Facts have a liberal bias, remember?
I like the, "Is an acorn an oak tree?" approach.
They aren't interested in fetal development. If they were, there wouldn't be "heartbeat in 18 days", a time before the tubes that will become the heart develop.
I don't believe they have any sincere concern for any theoretical babby.
A lot don't, I'm sure. Maybe most. But I did know some very sweet anti-abortion kids in college. They weren't misogynists. They just had breathless, weepy concern for the poor unborn babies. I think some of those people are reachable.
Possibly. People can be complex. The church I was going to pre-COVID had become rather loudly, "kick all the (Hispanic) asylum seekers out. They aren't doing it the right way." At the same time, they were sheltering one.
If you do reach one, congrats. I suspect that most, even in just that category, will be interested in any sort of counter argument.
If you let people vote just on this issue, abortion would be legal. Vote.
That, also too.
OT: Trump is reportedly "unveiling a new AI tool to make it easier to access federal government information." The first thing I am thinking is, how badly designed, inaccurate, privacy-invading, and hackable is this tool? Because for MAGA types, competence is optional, in fact it is suspicious if you have it.
Probably will have a sekrit code for Big Ballz to access your checking account.
Way for the Tech Bros to harvest info and break the government.
Eventually, applications for government aid will all be done via this portal (they said so today) and you can bet your ass it will be based on harsh algorithms with no human helping to decide.
Another way for the Tech Bros to break democracy and not be subject to "predatory and extortionate" taxes.
also the information will be fabricated via procedural text generation
It's going to be crap, but someone conned him otherwise.