Just as Hillary Clinton was about to make history by becoming the first major party nominee for president of the United States, FBI officials revealed that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) had been breached by what appears to be the same alleged Russian intelligence actors who broke in to the Democratic National Committee and stole thousands of emails, voicemails and Hillary boobie pictures.
2) Dom, you are aware that the NYTimes link you linked to doesn't support the assertion your trying to make about Assange right? (indeed I think the words "unproven speculation" are used in the very article.) There has already been enough baseless accusation in a desperate attempt to construct a narrative around this issue as it is: http://boingboing.net/2016/... (with that "narrative" apparently being a Golan and Globus derivative of Red Dawn)
3) Are whisteblowers and the act thereof implicitly evil on and of itself? I just want to know before Chelsea Manning and Daniel Eisenberg are retconned into being dirty commies by tommorow. ( For context, let's take note about what noted Libertarian, Al Gore had to say about Snowden (https://www.theguardian.com... :
Gore replied: "I would push it more away from the traitor side. And I will tell you why. He clearly violated the law so you can't say OK, what he did is all right. It's not. But what he revealed in the course of violating important laws included violations of the US constitution that were way more serious than the crimes he committed.
This might sound a bit snippy and this issue does irritate me a bit but for some reason there there seems be a harshness toward whisteblowers that I always found rather odd.)
That is so nice - thank you! My posting has been a little sporatic since I went on vacation (no posts for a week or so) and then returned. Plenty of eggzallent commenters though, to fill any void I might leave, if only comments were allowed!
People aren't "harsh" toward whistleblowers. They're harsh toward self-serving narcissists who don't give a fuck about the people they're exposing. The aim of a true whistleblower is to expose governmental and institutional misdeeds. It is not to use that information to further your agendas. I doubt Ellsberg would condone the wholesale hacking and dumping of innocent people's personal information. Do you think he'd approve of Wikileaks' recent doxxing of Turkish women, which endangered their lives? And what exactly was "whistleblown" in the DNC leaks? The kind of petty, gossipy stuff they revealed might be good for TMZ, but it was hardly on the level of exposing governmental breaches. I think there is this pervasive attitude on the left and by libertarians that all leaks are just and good. That it doesn't matter the damage they do, because they are exposing the "truth" and sticking it to the evil establishment! The left's deification of Snowden, Assange and Greenwald has always bothered me, because there are major downsides to people having that much power. You have to use it responsibly and take care to protect people. Snowden gets that. And even Greenwald has been critical of Wikileaks lately. But Assange? As with all narcissists, people are just collateral damage to him. Don't believe me? Just ask Chelsea Manning.
Can we just hate on both Snowden AND Assange/Wikileaks? As an IT person, I can't stand either one of them and consider both of them part of the same assmunch category.
My primary job is in IT. Anyone who works in the field who has to deal with end users would be happy - no, ecstatic! - to not hear the phrase "the cloud" from a user ever, ever again.
Ditto. My old boss, no matter what the problem was, would suggest that "the cloud" or "Salesforce" was the answer. He has no idea what either really are. It drove all of us crazy. At least the VP I report to now is an actual engineer.
It's not that they can't follow it. Once you realize the transactions originated with Russian banks or banks that have Russian branches, what do you do?I've made purchases over the internet from companies and individuals around the world. My bank puts a hold on the transaction, contacts me to verify that it's really me originating the transfer, and then completes it. Why would it be any different if the transaction involves Russia? If the Russian banks and law enforcement won't cooperate, just block all transactions.
I would think that that is what FDIC insurance is for. Your money goes missing, the bank replaces it, FDIC gets a claim.
O: Well, it's so clean, sir!
C: It's certainly uncontaminated by cheese.
4. https://profit/!!!!
Umm, no.
A. Credit cards are not deposit accounts.
B. FDIC does not cover theft, fraud, etc. Your bank gets stuck with that.
1)Er...Snowden didn't "run away to Russia."
2) Dom, you are aware that the NYTimes link you linked to doesn't support the assertion your trying to make about Assange right? (indeed I think the words "unproven speculation" are used in the very article.) There has already been enough baseless accusation in a desperate attempt to construct a narrative around this issue as it is: http://boingboing.net/2016/... (with that "narrative" apparently being a Golan and Globus derivative of Red Dawn)
3) Are whisteblowers and the act thereof implicitly evil on and of itself? I just want to know before Chelsea Manning and Daniel Eisenberg are retconned into being dirty commies by tommorow. ( For context, let's take note about what noted Libertarian, Al Gore had to say about Snowden (https://www.theguardian.com... :
Gore replied: "I would push it more away from the traitor side. And I will tell you why. He clearly violated the law so you can't say OK, what he did is all right. It's not. But what he revealed in the course of violating important laws included violations of the US constitution that were way more serious than the crimes he committed.
This might sound a bit snippy and this issue does irritate me a bit but for some reason there there seems be a harshness toward whisteblowers that I always found rather odd.)
That is so nice - thank you! My posting has been a little sporatic since I went on vacation (no posts for a week or so) and then returned. Plenty of eggzallent commenters though, to fill any void I might leave, if only comments were allowed!
People aren't "harsh" toward whistleblowers. They're harsh toward self-serving narcissists who don't give a fuck about the people they're exposing. The aim of a true whistleblower is to expose governmental and institutional misdeeds. It is not to use that information to further your agendas. I doubt Ellsberg would condone the wholesale hacking and dumping of innocent people's personal information. Do you think he'd approve of Wikileaks' recent doxxing of Turkish women, which endangered their lives? And what exactly was "whistleblown" in the DNC leaks? The kind of petty, gossipy stuff they revealed might be good for TMZ, but it was hardly on the level of exposing governmental breaches. I think there is this pervasive attitude on the left and by libertarians that all leaks are just and good. That it doesn't matter the damage they do, because they are exposing the "truth" and sticking it to the evil establishment! The left's deification of Snowden, Assange and Greenwald has always bothered me, because there are major downsides to people having that much power. You have to use it responsibly and take care to protect people. Snowden gets that. And even Greenwald has been critical of Wikileaks lately. But Assange? As with all narcissists, people are just collateral damage to him. Don't believe me? Just ask Chelsea Manning.
Forgot to mention Assange is a fugitive from rape charges.
Can we just hate on both Snowden AND Assange/Wikileaks? As an IT person, I can't stand either one of them and consider both of them part of the same assmunch category.
My primary job is in IT. Anyone who works in the field who has to deal with end users would be happy - no, ecstatic! - to not hear the phrase "the cloud" from a user ever, ever again.
Ditto. My old boss, no matter what the problem was, would suggest that "the cloud" or "Salesforce" was the answer. He has no idea what either really are. It drove all of us crazy. At least the VP I report to now is an actual engineer.
i consider snowden a hero for exposing the governmental overreach, and domestic spying. assange, not so much.
It's not that they can't follow it. Once you realize the transactions originated with Russian banks or banks that have Russian branches, what do you do?I've made purchases over the internet from companies and individuals around the world. My bank puts a hold on the transaction, contacts me to verify that it's really me originating the transfer, and then completes it. Why would it be any different if the transaction involves Russia? If the Russian banks and law enforcement won't cooperate, just block all transactions.
This is Your card provider going, "Wait, this guy doesn't go anywhere or buy anything abroad".
Stop while you are ahead.
crawl space?good to know
One can be a hero and an assmunch at the same time.