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Why's Phillips running as a boring Republican? I heard his speech and he just addressed the ordinary list of GOP worries. While being super- charmless.

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As a MNCD3 DFL (Democrat- Farm Labor) member and up to this insanity a proud member of the Dean Team I am one who is shaking my head and because he could (will) lose badly to Biden has to now decide if he is toast or should we support him for re-election to his CD3 House seat. He has plenty of time before the June Filing deadline to lose and re-run.

The question in CD3 is should we back him or look to other excellent possibilities. After all MNCD3 is very purple but the GOP isn't exactly plumb witn candidates in Minnesota CD3 to oppose him in the general election but the primary and endorsement is another. Talk about letting Ageism and useless polls being your reason to run against a President you voted 100% with?

The question is, Do we let this stunt pass or look for a new leader for MNCD3.

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It looks like St. Louis Park, Al Franken's childhood home, is part of MNCD3. Any chance of getting him to run? He'd be a terrific foil for Mike Johnson.

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AL Franken is not Returning to Washington.

As this Soup Opera plays out there are more than one great possibilities to Primary Dean Phillips.

Heck depending on the early primary performances Dean might just end up as the best candidate for his House Seat once the current "mission " is complete. (Stay tuned)

As for other awesome MNCD3 possibilities in the DFL II won't speak for anyone at this time but our State Constitutional Officers and State Senate are elected until 2026 so they have a safe opportunity if they are interested. Their terms are 2022-2026 so they could run and not jeopardize their current positions.

Also MNGOP might find a stronger candidate then the previous few in the Purple MNCD3.

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St. Louis Park is in MNCD5. That's Ilhan Omar's district.

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The map of MNCD3 on Wikipedia made it look like St. Louis Park might be part of it. In any case, it looks like Al Franken is living in NY these days.

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Stephen Robinson made me feel better for a few minutes in this terrible period of time.

The sweet spot between Ralph Nader and Jill Stein. Gawd-dam that is brilliant.

Thanks for that.

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I was wondering why they were talking about this knob as if he had potential on This Week:

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Is THAT what this is about? This guy is going to run around slagging Biden for at least a few weeks because he was reprimanded for acting like an ass on Air Force One?

Jesus Christ. Some people never left the junior high cafeteria.

Pretty soon Fox News and Newsmax will be the only ones booking this guy for appearances. And he's probably a big enough jackass to go on them.

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"He immodestly and incorrectly takes partial credit for helping elect Biden in 2020 through his Lincoln Project scam"

Scam?

The actual Lincoln Project are ridin' with Biden and have officially disassociated themselves from Schmidt

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Article contends that significant numbers of Democrats have "deep concerns" about electability of Kamala Harris. Links/sources?

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Have already ranted repeatedly, what the polls actually show is that the numbers for Drumpf are finally in line with his actual performance, while those for Biden are simply too low to be believable. Substitute Hillary Clinton's actual numbers, and these same polls show Drumpf with no better than a tie in the popular vote.

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Seth Triggs:You’re new to politics, aren’t you? I’ll bet you thought it was a good slogan to chant :”Defund the police.” And, that the situation at the border is under control and won’t be a campaigns issue that hurts the Democrats. Biden has had his moment; he needs to put his country and his party ahead of his ego.

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Oct 30, 2023·edited Oct 31, 2023

I actually didn't think Defund the Police was a great slogan, thank you very much.

I've been around long enough to see bad-faith actors just keep peddling either Republican bullshit or bullshit from former challengers (if that) with an ax to grind.

The truth of the matter is, you don't stop bedwetters with actual facts. We could just go on and on about how border crossings are down, and there's an orderly process and several additions to the border security going on, or how there keep being summits and basically all our economic numbers are better.

But you just want vibes. "Well, he did all these great things but he's old, ya know, and Kamala Harris is Kamala Harris and we don't think they should continue in their jobs even though they're busting their ass. Because we have viiiiiiibes! Because certainly someone new in the race won't have made up bullshit drummed up about them just like Biden and Harris do."

EVERYTHING is always a campaign issue that hurts the Democrats because of the way media are owned by Republicans who want tax cuts. Look, absolutely just *look* at the state of the Republican party and look how hands-off and...accepting people are. You don't have wall-to-wall anchors and such saying President Klan Robe is disqualified. This two-bit crook has MULTIPLE CONCURRENT TRIALS. Can you imagine if this man were a Democrat in this day and age? Hillary Clinton beat this asshole by millions of votes and would've made it in if not for nefarious influence in 2016. And all the while it was the bad-faith of "her e-mails" and "her speeches."

Note we don't talk about e-mails and speeches anymore!

Bedwetting "Dems" do everything they can to tear down their own candidates, and the minute some bad-faith bullshit happens to the nominee they jump and wet their damn pants.

Biden's ooooooold is the same bullshit as Hillary's e-mails, Dean's scream, Kerry's swiftboat, Gore's 'lockbox' and "I created the Internet." Same shit different day.

I'm ready to go full speed ahead and donate and I will circle those damn bubbles on my ballot for this legendary administration. And why should Kamala Harris have to go away for your fucking vibes of "Oh he's old?" She's younger and healthy and she has capable executive experience, and she knows diplomacy.

The rest of the real Democrats know this and that's why they're backing him. Everyone, even Sanders. That's why the ratfuckers had to pull a third-string practice squad member in the form of Dean Phillips. (edited for spelling and mistaking the truth for the lie statement attributed to Al Gore)

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And Kamala? Rock star on college campuses. She is under the radar but a powerful force. Methinks Fawkifiknow may be new to politics.

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Meanwhile, Uncle Joe and Auntie Kamala are working at the job of GETTING STUFF DONE which should look good on the resume to get RE-ELECTED for 2024.

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Bumper crop of chaos agents this election season.

Democrats, stay the course, ignore this guy and remember to elect Democrats up and down the ballot. Republicans must be defeated.

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This isn't about me. Something, something, I something and I something, something else, something, I cannot in good conscience something me and I furthermore something my duty to something, in my humble something defend the something I love.

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Harlan Crow and Steve Schmidt. With friends like that...

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I'm really fond of Schmidt and his substack in which he illuminates-- with something current-- principles from our laws and specific to this country. Now this week everyone is so mad at him and have turned on him like he's Typhoid Mary. What can he possibly see in this guy? I've no idea. I don't care either because this guy (Phillips) is so unappealing I can't see that he matters.

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"Either Phillips is deliberately working to tank Biden or he’s too stupid to live." --SER

Both. It's both.

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For perhaps the first time in my lengthy readership of Wonkette, I'm going to disagree sharply with it. I will vote for Phillips or any other real Democrat who mounts a primary challenge to Biden-Harris. What is so hard for them (the Biden-Harris team, and this writer) to get? Voters don't want them to run again because they agree with the idea that THEY VERY WELL COULD LOSE TO A CRIMINAL DESTROYER OF DEMOCRACY AND THE RULE OF LAW' Neither Biden or Harris inspire. Period. The polls may not have it 100% correct, but they aren't off by 30%. Bottom line, I want a credible candidate, like Wilmer or Shapiro or Newsom to step up and run - before it's too late and we really are saddled with a nursing home ad and his even more disliked side kick.

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No, VOTERS aren't the ones who are who don't want them to run again. YOU don't want them to run again. THE MEDIA don't want them to run again. Neither you nor the media speak for the rest of us. And the rest of us are fucking inspired, my dude. I can't wait to vote for this team again, after all the incredible things they've done **in less than four years.**

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Oct 30, 2023·edited Oct 30, 2023

I'm fucking inspired. I watched this team pull us back from the brink and deliver some real lasting change. Nobody should ever take folks with this opinion seriously. This is all bad faith because you KNOW some bad-faith bullshit will be brought up about them. Remember the whole "dining-during COVID" dustup with Newsom? Oh, it'll pop right back up again. On top of that, San Francisco will be used as a yoke. Whitmer? Shutdowns during COVID. And it doesn't even have to be true for the bad-faith bullshit to come out.

FOH with that "Neither Biden or Harris inspire." I'm so sick of people especially erasing all Kamala Harris does because it's convenient.

Again nobody should take this horsecrap seriously. Because it actually means governance doesn't matter, it's all about people's stupid 'vibes' and "oh they look young and vibrant." If you want to do bullshit like this, just support some pretty-faced actor and leave us alone to support REAL work being done.

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I thought I addressed this. There is a reason Whitmer, Shapiro, Newsom and others aren’t running. It’s too late to produce a new magical perfect candidate.

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LBJ dropped out in March, 1968. It took a chaotic brawl of a convention to nominate HHH; the Democratic Party was in incredible disarray and deep division. Humphrey damn near won the election. It's not too late - yet. If Biden won't read the tea leaves of the polling data, maybe he'll get it when some nobody gets a lot of support in the primaries. I just don't want to lose this election - it really is, this time, the most important election of our lifetime.

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Oct 30, 2023Liked by Stephen Robinson

Presidential elections have a much longer time frame than they did in 1968--RFK jumped in as late as March 1968 and won most of the primaries back then (and back then, not all states had primaries, and the ones that did weren't all binding--so it really was expected to be decided at the convention). Now you need an apparatus and fundraising going back at least two years, and we have about a year now.

Plus, the only reason HHH came as close as he did was that George Wallace split off a chunk of the right wing vote that Nixon likely would have won, and a lot of key constitencies (like the union vote) were bigger back then, and came home to the Dems. We don't really have that now.

We recognize that things right now aren't looking great for Biden's re-election. But there's simply no plausible alternative. There's just not.

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Oct 30, 2023·edited Oct 30, 2023Liked by Stephen Robinson

So your preferred paradigm is that we should tear each other apart and then produce a loser. You seem to be missing that whole "History as a teacher" thing...

The reality, meanwhile, is that polling on Biden as a person is not polling on who people will vote for when the binary choice is in front of them.

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So your solution is to not only sacrifice the incumbency advantage, along with the campaign infrastructure that's already in place, but also have a random person step in at the last minute? Who Republican-owned media will rip to shreads anyway?

Also, as you mention above, Humphrey lost.

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Oct 30, 2023Liked by Stephen Robinson

Exactly. This kind of thing never ends well.

All these bedwetting 'Dems' knew Biden was old balls in 2020. You had all the fresh-faced youngsters running in the primary. They couldn't prevail, so back your damn incumbent and run on the INCREDIBLE record. Because if you're not running on the record, what's the damn point of voting for Democrats? What is the challenger's point? "I'm just younger. Unity!"

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Exactly! As SR summed up in the post, he doesn't have a point other than "youth" and "unpopular." Plus, I remember back in 2012 when everyone and their dog was convinced that Obama was going to be a one term president and Biden was going to biff the VP debate. We always freak out about the incumbent at this point. To paraphrase Seth Meyers, when Trump commits a gaffe, like confusing Sioux City with Sioux Falls, Republicans just say "welp, I guess we all live in North Dakota now."

Also, I don't know why so many people seem to be surprised that Biden is going to be four years older when he runs for reelection. While I know that you can't say anything "goes without saying," I figured that folks had a grasp of linear time.

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Also telling that this is THE issue. Biden/Harris are hitting it out of the park on policy and actually doing shit. Biden and Harris have, like Obama, kept the scandal to a minimum, which is why the Republicans are going after Biden's family and trying to Atwater-like strip the bark off them.

I haven't forgotten that Biden's admin got ZERO credit from the putative anti-war left for removing us from the Afghanistan quagmire. ZERO. They joined in with the bad-faith Republican braying goats. All they ensure is that nobody will ever pursue progressive policy again because they'll just be shat upon by supposed supporters.

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Say, you know who else saw it was time for a change? Hint: he killed the tsar and his ministers.

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Anastasia screamed in vain. One of my favorite Stones songs.

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