How Chinese people can be more insistent on using and protecting their rights
The mainland Chinese government has been floating their own version of that they consider bona fide human rights for some years, way before the US GOP came with the idea. Unsurprisingly, it is more about removing things than adding more rights.So the inhabitants of Hong Kong have been under siege for some time, now.
Eeeh, we French are always a bit wary of following the German chancellor. We ended in an abusive relationship doing that, once, and the bad memories still linger.So it was nice to also have this kind, smiling, classy US president around, just to reassure us that 1) the US were not in one of their barbarous bully mood, and 2) there was some hope for cooperation between the leaders of Western countries.
Ushered in or floated on top of. Or both. Trump may be more of a symptom than a enabler, and maybe we were due to a return of populism and fascism anyway. There were some warning signs that a trend was going on. If it was not him, perhaps it would have been Ben Carson. Or Sarah Palin.Although a middle-ground hypothesis would be that Trump is the perfect piece of dirt which you introduce in a chemical solution as the nucleus needed to start a cristallisation.
About a decade ago, Ms. Zippy and I went on a UC alumni tour of China, which included three days in Lhasa. We were aghast at the surveillance state we experienced, and some plainclothes Han soldier was watching us every minute. These bastards just won't quit.
I absolutely expect a Tienanmen-style massacre in HK any day now.
I must note that while Hong Kong people are ethnically Chinese, they are not really Chinese in the jurisdictional sense or cultural senses.Before 1997, they had been under British rule for 99 years, and that makes a huge difference.
This kind of protest could not happen on the mainland, and it you don't understand that, you don't really remember Tianamen Square.
Well, they have been literally on the border of an antagonistic country since 1949, and they know damned well that when/if China completely takes over and the assurances that China gave the UK completely dissolve, they will under the thumb or a brutal non-democratic regime.
Compare that to our situation where Trump is trying to claim we are under threat from México and Central America. They should be so lucky in Hong Kong...
I've GOT friends in Hong Kong, but due to an old computer crash, I don't know how to keep track of them. One of them is married to a Spanish citizen, and I would hope that they may be able to get out if they need to, but they would be leaving her HK family behind.
Geography is against us with regards to protests. Every time we're compared to another locality that's protesting, the people of that locality are able to basically walk to the protest location, or be home in a couple hours.
I'm not saying that lets us off the hook completely, but scattered local protests get nobody's attention.
Most Americans would have to drive for days to get to our capital, and then the logistics of feeding and sheltering that many people are impossible.
Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't do something, but direct comparisons with France, Hong Kong, Arab Spring protests are disingenuous.
While the British were never going to get a 99-year agreement for HK (mirroring their previous "ownership"), I think that maybe they were hopeful that by 50 years China would've somehow turned democratid, at least partially.
But they never expected that the UK would be turning a bit fascistic, and the the US would go all in, such that the people of Hong Kong would be seen as the true democractic ones.
You must have not been listening then - it's Hong Kongese with NO 'L',
My mom bought some of those a while ago and shared them! They taste so good, but look so weird...
If the US were anything but what it is we would STAND UP FOR OURSELVES!
Just to put more perspective to it:
How Chinese people can be more insistent on using and protecting their rights
The mainland Chinese government has been floating their own version of that they consider bona fide human rights for some years, way before the US GOP came with the idea. Unsurprisingly, it is more about removing things than adding more rights.So the inhabitants of Hong Kong have been under siege for some time, now.
Eeeh, we French are always a bit wary of following the German chancellor. We ended in an abusive relationship doing that, once, and the bad memories still linger.So it was nice to also have this kind, smiling, classy US president around, just to reassure us that 1) the US were not in one of their barbarous bully mood, and 2) there was some hope for cooperation between the leaders of Western countries.
Ushered in or floated on top of. Or both. Trump may be more of a symptom than a enabler, and maybe we were due to a return of populism and fascism anyway. There were some warning signs that a trend was going on. If it was not him, perhaps it would have been Ben Carson. Or Sarah Palin.Although a middle-ground hypothesis would be that Trump is the perfect piece of dirt which you introduce in a chemical solution as the nucleus needed to start a cristallisation.
About a decade ago, Ms. Zippy and I went on a UC alumni tour of China, which included three days in Lhasa. We were aghast at the surveillance state we experienced, and some plainclothes Han soldier was watching us every minute. These bastards just won't quit.
I absolutely expect a Tienanmen-style massacre in HK any day now.
I must note that while Hong Kong people are ethnically Chinese, they are not really Chinese in the jurisdictional sense or cultural senses.Before 1997, they had been under British rule for 99 years, and that makes a huge difference.
This kind of protest could not happen on the mainland, and it you don't understand that, you don't really remember Tianamen Square.
Well, they have been literally on the border of an antagonistic country since 1949, and they know damned well that when/if China completely takes over and the assurances that China gave the UK completely dissolve, they will under the thumb or a brutal non-democratic regime.
Compare that to our situation where Trump is trying to claim we are under threat from México and Central America. They should be so lucky in Hong Kong...
I've GOT friends in Hong Kong, but due to an old computer crash, I don't know how to keep track of them. One of them is married to a Spanish citizen, and I would hope that they may be able to get out if they need to, but they would be leaving her HK family behind.
You are correct.Hong Kongese is the adjective. Hong Konger is the noun.
Geography is against us with regards to protests. Every time we're compared to another locality that's protesting, the people of that locality are able to basically walk to the protest location, or be home in a couple hours.
I'm not saying that lets us off the hook completely, but scattered local protests get nobody's attention.
Most Americans would have to drive for days to get to our capital, and then the logistics of feeding and sheltering that many people are impossible.
Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't do something, but direct comparisons with France, Hong Kong, Arab Spring protests are disingenuous.
While the British were never going to get a 99-year agreement for HK (mirroring their previous "ownership"), I think that maybe they were hopeful that by 50 years China would've somehow turned democratid, at least partially.
But they never expected that the UK would be turning a bit fascistic, and the the US would go all in, such that the people of Hong Kong would be seen as the true democractic ones.
Hong Kong IS Han Chinese (vast majority), and always has been.The provinces you're thinking of are in the far south and far west.
He'll make sure the rocks are not halal too!
He probably thought it's a food. "Is Hong Kong anything like chop suey???"