And they will do that if only the left "lay off" on Trump?
Do you know what the Trumpians were saying overall about Iran's more or less measured response to Trump killing their 2nd guy from the top?
"Hahahahah! Look! Iran so scared! Trump got them! He won! Hahahahaha!"
These guys respond to acts like mercy, measured and diplomatic responses, with scorn and vitrol. To them, mercy, kindness and understanding are a WEAKNESS to be exploited, and exploited it they have. Obama's attempts at bipartisanship showed that all too well.
So if you think that they will simply play nice now because the left "lays off" Trump, you've got another thing coming. I can tell you that Trump would only be emboldened by what he would see as the enemy's "retreat" and his base would be energized by it too.
No, I don't lie for my own sake, nor do I need to. I simply point out his lies and dispute them with evidence, which Wonkette, that you called "a school lunchroom fight" below, has done for the last 4 years, and way better than I ever have.
In fact what you're doing here is EXACTLY what the Trumpians did last year when they were screaming about how the left were so goddamned "uncivil" to them.
Well you don't get to have people be civil to you when you're not being civil to them in the first place. The concern trolls were all OVER this shit, and guess what? It was all an attempt to stifle legitimate, if not polite, criticisms of them and their God Emperor.
That's why I've said since then, "fuck civility for these cretins, it's simply something they will exploit for their own ends".
Telling it as it is, revealing their lies and scorning them, just like we do to their God Emperor on a daily basis, is the correct way to do thigs.
Racism doesn't go away if you become polite and decide not to talk about it "for civilities sake", what happens is that it will simply thrive and grow while people turn a blind eye. Trump and his cultists are the same, they would so LOVE for people to shut up about revealing their lies and all their shit and they are happy to call those who do "rude" and "uncivil" in order to achieve that. They won't reciprocate such gestures, this has been proven over and over and over again by both Trump himself and his cultists.
If you want to go that route that Obama took AGAIN, that's fine, do so and tell me how it works out for you.
Really? Racism has gotten way worse simply because of that? What, we're back in the Jim Crow era now?
You mean the spike in racism during and after the Obama era could NOT have been the case due to other reasons.....like having a black man as President when the country was not ready for it then (and still not ready now too apparently)?
If calling out racism (NOT randomly calling people racist btw, I see your strawman there) brings racism to the fore, then that's mission accomplished. That's exactly what it's meant to do. Bring it out to light ad not let it hide in the dark.
If people refuse to accept that they are racist, that's not something we can solve, nor in fact is it something that's meant to be solved in this way.
I like Chris Murphy, he's tirelessly fighting the good fight; but this is way past "ridiculous." I'd go with sinister, malign, terrible, the end of our democracy, shit like that.
And here it is, "I'm an expert, but I won't tell you how it works, look it up yourself!"
It's the troll's way of saying "I've got nothing pretty much."
For your information the notion that calling people racists would make them racist (which is precisely what you're trying to get at here I can tell) is the same line that the Trumpian racist apologists pushed when they tried to use civility as a weapon against the left. The objective was to silence any and all voices that call out racism.
If you can get more racists by calling others racist due to resentment, then this logic can also be applied to any other negative appellation (yes, English, you should look it up, it's a complex language) towards anyone.
In other words, by calling all illegal immigrants "dirty, disease reason criminals" Trump MADE them dirty, disease reason criminals. By calling reporters "criminal liars" he MADE them criminal liars and so on.
Which is what his cultists believe in, so if you're sponsoring this sort of view as well, I guess it's as good an admission that you're one of them.
Running away with a parting ad hominem shot? Aww you shouldn't have, you've already long proven you're a troll, no reason to try and reinforce that fact yet again.
Grammar Nazi says what?
Reputedly you're okay unless you get some of the orange onya.
And they will do that if only the left "lay off" on Trump?
Do you know what the Trumpians were saying overall about Iran's more or less measured response to Trump killing their 2nd guy from the top?
"Hahahahah! Look! Iran so scared! Trump got them! He won! Hahahahaha!"
These guys respond to acts like mercy, measured and diplomatic responses, with scorn and vitrol. To them, mercy, kindness and understanding are a WEAKNESS to be exploited, and exploited it they have. Obama's attempts at bipartisanship showed that all too well.
So if you think that they will simply play nice now because the left "lays off" Trump, you've got another thing coming. I can tell you that Trump would only be emboldened by what he would see as the enemy's "retreat" and his base would be energized by it too.
No, I don't lie for my own sake, nor do I need to. I simply point out his lies and dispute them with evidence, which Wonkette, that you called "a school lunchroom fight" below, has done for the last 4 years, and way better than I ever have.
In fact what you're doing here is EXACTLY what the Trumpians did last year when they were screaming about how the left were so goddamned "uncivil" to them.
Well you don't get to have people be civil to you when you're not being civil to them in the first place. The concern trolls were all OVER this shit, and guess what? It was all an attempt to stifle legitimate, if not polite, criticisms of them and their God Emperor.
That's why I've said since then, "fuck civility for these cretins, it's simply something they will exploit for their own ends".
Telling it as it is, revealing their lies and scorning them, just like we do to their God Emperor on a daily basis, is the correct way to do thigs.
Racism doesn't go away if you become polite and decide not to talk about it "for civilities sake", what happens is that it will simply thrive and grow while people turn a blind eye. Trump and his cultists are the same, they would so LOVE for people to shut up about revealing their lies and all their shit and they are happy to call those who do "rude" and "uncivil" in order to achieve that. They won't reciprocate such gestures, this has been proven over and over and over again by both Trump himself and his cultists.
If you want to go that route that Obama took AGAIN, that's fine, do so and tell me how it works out for you.
The cause? The only cause you have here is to be a troll - so fuck off and reported and blocked
Really? Racism has gotten way worse simply because of that? What, we're back in the Jim Crow era now?
You mean the spike in racism during and after the Obama era could NOT have been the case due to other reasons.....like having a black man as President when the country was not ready for it then (and still not ready now too apparently)?
If calling out racism (NOT randomly calling people racist btw, I see your strawman there) brings racism to the fore, then that's mission accomplished. That's exactly what it's meant to do. Bring it out to light ad not let it hide in the dark.
If people refuse to accept that they are racist, that's not something we can solve, nor in fact is it something that's meant to be solved in this way.
You obviously did not look, nor did you care.
Not that I expected otherwise.
And of course you didn't ell me how racism works.
Pray tell then oh enlightened scholar, how does it work? Sweeping it under the rug solves it?
Ah, finally you're sounding like the Trumpian troll you are.
Took you long enough.
EDIT: Bless your heart.
I like Chris Murphy, he's tirelessly fighting the good fight; but this is way past "ridiculous." I'd go with sinister, malign, terrible, the end of our democracy, shit like that.
And here it is, "I'm an expert, but I won't tell you how it works, look it up yourself!"
It's the troll's way of saying "I've got nothing pretty much."
For your information the notion that calling people racists would make them racist (which is precisely what you're trying to get at here I can tell) is the same line that the Trumpian racist apologists pushed when they tried to use civility as a weapon against the left. The objective was to silence any and all voices that call out racism.
If you can get more racists by calling others racist due to resentment, then this logic can also be applied to any other negative appellation (yes, English, you should look it up, it's a complex language) towards anyone.
In other words, by calling all illegal immigrants "dirty, disease reason criminals" Trump MADE them dirty, disease reason criminals. By calling reporters "criminal liars" he MADE them criminal liars and so on.
Which is what his cultists believe in, so if you're sponsoring this sort of view as well, I guess it's as good an admission that you're one of them.
Your posts speak for themselves. You can try refuting that if you wish.
Pretty sure it was intentional, where Pretty=100%. Cuz "fail," Trump, doing a thing...
Is his name "Edison?" Inventive little guy.
Running away with a parting ad hominem shot? Aww you shouldn't have, you've already long proven you're a troll, no reason to try and reinforce that fact yet again.
I am not often fervent, but in this, my wish is fervent.