The reality is heavily against the US here mainly in the geography of the Straits.
Tankers are not war ships and could be harassed by small arms fire from the shore, let alone the variety of drones, mines, etc.
Re: mines. There have been lots of development since the days of the old horned sphere that is anchored a few feet below the water's surface. These still exist as they are cheap to make but easy to sweep. The main counter for the mines' 'owner' is to attack the sweepers. The latter have also fallen victim to mines themselves.
Moving on, Sweden has developed a sea mine that rests on the bottom. It has 600 lb of explosive effective against the surface vessel up to 100 feet above. It detects the surface vessel by listening for its propeller. Amazingly, it has 'friend or foe' ability, meaning it can tell enemy prop noise from its own ships. If this seems far fetched, it stems from intense anti- submarine science, during the Cold War with the USSR. (Sound is more important than sight for all creatures beneath the waves)
During most of the Cold War. The US and NATO referred to Soviet subs as 'clankers', easily detected by passive sonar. Then an American traitor sold the tech for multiple axis prop milling and the clankers became much more stealthy. But with today's tech, prop noise from a surface ship is like a finger print.
Moving on from threats on or under the water, to guarantee safe passage through these narrow straits, against a determined numerous opposition that is indifferent to casualties, possession of the shore to a depth of at least 3 miles looks like a minimum basis to begin. So...a mini- D Day.
50K troops?
At least this will give the USN some company as it compares its dirty tasks to those of the Air Force, that flies above all this.
Trump must get little folders with tough-sounding tweets pre-typed for him. When he sees one he likes, for example when one says “BLOWN TO HELL!” He says yes and clicks send. Because Trump doesn’t know the word “interdict”. I think he posts memes and likes articles and AI images of stuff like your grandma shows you when you visit and she’s figuring out her phone and insists the video of a kitten riding on a dolphin is real. Maybe Stephen Miller has a little pullout couch next to Trump’s Royal Bed and they giggle all night and talk about things to post.
Ta, Evan. Shitvomit is a good word. It actually happened to a friend who had a huge (grapefruit sized) tumor in his large intestine. Initially the doctors thought he was too young to have such a cancer. Fortunately, he's fine now, or was last time I checked.
Donny Trump speaks and types like one of those seven year-olds who will grow up to vote Republican. You know--a little underlit, not liked, bad home life, desperate for attention, but delusions of self-importance.
While all this is true and unfortunately really happening in real time, why is no one talking about the stranglehold israel has on trumps leash. We all know if it wasnt for them powerpointing our way into this war we wouldn't be in half as bad a shape. Its time to say no to Israel and tell them to go genocide everyone without us.
So, if I've got this right, Iran will stop anybody they don't like from getting through the Strait, and the US will block anybody that Iran allows through the Strait from getting through the Strait. Or something like that.
Next thing you know they'll be turning the Strait into a Möbius strip and trumpy will meet himself coming back from the other direction. That seems to be how his mind 'works.'
So now Donnie is saying that he's NOT depicted as Jesus in that image. He's a Red Cross doctor. It's the stupid FaKe NeWs outlets that came up with "Jesus."
Regardless, the image did exactly what it was supposed to do – get everyone talking about it.
But not in a good way. I'm sure Carlson, Jones, Kelly and company are not going to have a good take on any of this. More banana shit from banana pants. Their criticism will propel him to even further irrational acts. He's a malignant narcissist with frontotemporal dementia and that is a super bad combination. The attack on the pope is exhibit A. Irrationally lashing out.
"Ooh! Ooh! Idea! They should call Barack Obama, he negotiated a whole thingie-dingie in 2015 where Iran agreed to exactly that and was complying with it."
The Trump administration asking for help from Barack Obama might be the one and only thing that could turn ( some of ) the hardcore MAGA against him.
Anything else Donny could possibly do, they'd find some twisted "logic" to explain why that was actually a good thing, no matter how thoroughly it personally fucked them over, but treating ol' Barry like someone to be trusted would make their heads explode.
Or…”he’s totally playing with Obama, and Obama fell for it. Now Obama is working for Trump. Trust the plan. Trump is always thinking several steps ahead.”
"... clearly something happened between that verbal shitvomit and the actual announcement from CENTCOM, something that forced the regime to TACO things back from “any and all” to only ships going back and forth between Iranian ports."
Who knows? Maybe the military lawyers were able to get in words edgewise in the debate over how to enact Trump's dipshit plan.
Basically, a. Naval blockade is an act of war. In other words, it's the equivalent of an assault. A nation a right to defend itself from blockades, which itself is just another word for siege at sea. Sieges are brutal tactics, and which an aggressor figures. The best way to defeat you is not face-to-face on the field of battle, but by cutting you off and then from behind his battlements watching your children starve to death. So, act of war and all that.
But you see, a naval blockade of the mouth of the Persian Gulf, is not a blockade of Iranian waters.
Indeed, this dispute is so catastrophic entirely because the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz and Gulf of Oman are international waters, and as such are free to travel by peaceful vessels of any Nation.
So a total naval blockade is an act of war against all the countries that line those gulfs. And, considering that it's also among the world's busiest shipping routes, interdicting ships from other countries wanting to get in there or come out of there is an act of war against each of those Nations. Basically this is how you start world war III. In other words, because it lacks a basis in both strategic logic and in basic human morality and in I guess international law, what what? Trump shitted out of his mouth and fingertips and out into the world is essentially a policy of state piracy.
So some completely cowed and beaten military lawyer, who've had to eat shit sandwiches over torture, in who've been tasked to create tortured arguments to support murder on the high seas in the Caribbean and Pacific, toned down the hissy fit -directives to sound at least in the western media like sober, meaningful and potentially effective actions, which what Trump appears to have proposed, what the news media and commentators have agreed it means, and what appears to be happening in theater, are none of those things.
not to quibble, but at the narrowest point, the SOH is no international. If you take the territorial zones of Iran and Oman, they together exceed the width of the strait.
No worries, my friend. That's not a quibble. That's rather just a little uninformed pedantry, so I don't mind!
Please be informed: Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Strait of Hormuz is classified as an international strait, open to all peaceful navigation as if it were the high seas.
As signatories to the Convention, neither Iran (signed Dec 10, 1982, but has not ratified) nor Oman (signed Jul 1, 1983 and ratified Aug 17, 1989) has the authority under international law to suspend the Right of Passage through the strait. (The US is a "nonparty" to the convention, interestingly, but has said before Trump that it believes the convention -- except for what it says about seabed mining -- is already conceived in the historic body of international law.
This issue was the subject of the 'Tanker War' theater of the Iran-Iraq War, in which both nations declared 40-mile "exclusion zones" that sought to restrict the historically freely navigated Oman-Hormuz-Persian passage. A unanimous UN resolution, and intervention of the US Navy (at the cost of damage to the USS Stark), ended the struggle with the international nature of the entire waterbody reinforced in law and fact.
So, at its narrowest point, the SOH IS most assuredly international, until that is the Asshole in White House attacked and failed to heed advice that, as it had done in the 1980s Iran in a conflict would counter with closure of the waterway to gain leverage.
This goes right along with his 'logic' about attacking Iran first because they were going to attack us first.
The reality is heavily against the US here mainly in the geography of the Straits.
Tankers are not war ships and could be harassed by small arms fire from the shore, let alone the variety of drones, mines, etc.
Re: mines. There have been lots of development since the days of the old horned sphere that is anchored a few feet below the water's surface. These still exist as they are cheap to make but easy to sweep. The main counter for the mines' 'owner' is to attack the sweepers. The latter have also fallen victim to mines themselves.
Moving on, Sweden has developed a sea mine that rests on the bottom. It has 600 lb of explosive effective against the surface vessel up to 100 feet above. It detects the surface vessel by listening for its propeller. Amazingly, it has 'friend or foe' ability, meaning it can tell enemy prop noise from its own ships. If this seems far fetched, it stems from intense anti- submarine science, during the Cold War with the USSR. (Sound is more important than sight for all creatures beneath the waves)
During most of the Cold War. The US and NATO referred to Soviet subs as 'clankers', easily detected by passive sonar. Then an American traitor sold the tech for multiple axis prop milling and the clankers became much more stealthy. But with today's tech, prop noise from a surface ship is like a finger print.
Moving on from threats on or under the water, to guarantee safe passage through these narrow straits, against a determined numerous opposition that is indifferent to casualties, possession of the shore to a depth of at least 3 miles looks like a minimum basis to begin. So...a mini- D Day.
50K troops?
At least this will give the USN some company as it compares its dirty tasks to those of the Air Force, that flies above all this.
Trump must get little folders with tough-sounding tweets pre-typed for him. When he sees one he likes, for example when one says “BLOWN TO HELL!” He says yes and clicks send. Because Trump doesn’t know the word “interdict”. I think he posts memes and likes articles and AI images of stuff like your grandma shows you when you visit and she’s figuring out her phone and insists the video of a kitten riding on a dolphin is real. Maybe Stephen Miller has a little pullout couch next to Trump’s Royal Bed and they giggle all night and talk about things to post.
If trumpy does blow something to hell I hope he is soon given the opportunity to personally inspect it.
Let me see if we can make watching him any more bearable....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65jqrHQi_c
Ta, Evan. Shitvomit is a good word. It actually happened to a friend who had a huge (grapefruit sized) tumor in his large intestine. Initially the doctors thought he was too young to have such a cancer. Fortunately, he's fine now, or was last time I checked.
So, apparently, Trump views himself as the second coming. Yeats would agree:
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
I think that 'Ozymandias' fits trumpy better.
"massive amounts of drugs."
Donny Trump speaks and types like one of those seven year-olds who will grow up to vote Republican. You know--a little underlit, not liked, bad home life, desperate for attention, but delusions of self-importance.
While all this is true and unfortunately really happening in real time, why is no one talking about the stranglehold israel has on trumps leash. We all know if it wasnt for them powerpointing our way into this war we wouldn't be in half as bad a shape. Its time to say no to Israel and tell them to go genocide everyone without us.
Putin holds the leash. Netanyahu provides the dog treats.
"And here’s Trump behaving like the literal antichrist as described in 2 Thessalonians and posting a meme of himself as Jesus..."
"Hey! What are we, chopped liver?" --2 Corinthians
So, if I've got this right, Iran will stop anybody they don't like from getting through the Strait, and the US will block anybody that Iran allows through the Strait from getting through the Strait. Or something like that.
Next thing you know they'll be turning the Strait into a Möbius strip and trumpy will meet himself coming back from the other direction. That seems to be how his mind 'works.'
So now Donnie is saying that he's NOT depicted as Jesus in that image. He's a Red Cross doctor. It's the stupid FaKe NeWs outlets that came up with "Jesus."
Regardless, the image did exactly what it was supposed to do – get everyone talking about it.
Bu, but he's healing his best friend Jeffrey Edward Epstein. Praise Him.
But not in a good way. I'm sure Carlson, Jones, Kelly and company are not going to have a good take on any of this. More banana shit from banana pants. Their criticism will propel him to even further irrational acts. He's a malignant narcissist with frontotemporal dementia and that is a super bad combination. The attack on the pope is exhibit A. Irrationally lashing out.
Don't your doctors have sunlight coming out of their hands?
He missed the chance to put his Arc de Trumph in the background of his demented Jesus cosplay poster.
"Ooh! Ooh! Idea! They should call Barack Obama, he negotiated a whole thingie-dingie in 2015 where Iran agreed to exactly that and was complying with it."
The Trump administration asking for help from Barack Obama might be the one and only thing that could turn ( some of ) the hardcore MAGA against him.
Anything else Donny could possibly do, they'd find some twisted "logic" to explain why that was actually a good thing, no matter how thoroughly it personally fucked them over, but treating ol' Barry like someone to be trusted would make their heads explode.
Or…”he’s totally playing with Obama, and Obama fell for it. Now Obama is working for Trump. Trust the plan. Trump is always thinking several steps ahead.”
Again, trumpy's thinking seems to follow the pattern of a Möbius strip, so he's always ahead. And always behind. And has no idea where he is.
"... clearly something happened between that verbal shitvomit and the actual announcement from CENTCOM, something that forced the regime to TACO things back from “any and all” to only ships going back and forth between Iranian ports."
Who knows? Maybe the military lawyers were able to get in words edgewise in the debate over how to enact Trump's dipshit plan.
Basically, a. Naval blockade is an act of war. In other words, it's the equivalent of an assault. A nation a right to defend itself from blockades, which itself is just another word for siege at sea. Sieges are brutal tactics, and which an aggressor figures. The best way to defeat you is not face-to-face on the field of battle, but by cutting you off and then from behind his battlements watching your children starve to death. So, act of war and all that.
But you see, a naval blockade of the mouth of the Persian Gulf, is not a blockade of Iranian waters.
Indeed, this dispute is so catastrophic entirely because the Persian Gulf, Strait of Hormuz and Gulf of Oman are international waters, and as such are free to travel by peaceful vessels of any Nation.
So a total naval blockade is an act of war against all the countries that line those gulfs. And, considering that it's also among the world's busiest shipping routes, interdicting ships from other countries wanting to get in there or come out of there is an act of war against each of those Nations. Basically this is how you start world war III. In other words, because it lacks a basis in both strategic logic and in basic human morality and in I guess international law, what what? Trump shitted out of his mouth and fingertips and out into the world is essentially a policy of state piracy.
So some completely cowed and beaten military lawyer, who've had to eat shit sandwiches over torture, in who've been tasked to create tortured arguments to support murder on the high seas in the Caribbean and Pacific, toned down the hissy fit -directives to sound at least in the western media like sober, meaningful and potentially effective actions, which what Trump appears to have proposed, what the news media and commentators have agreed it means, and what appears to be happening in theater, are none of those things.
not to quibble, but at the narrowest point, the SOH is no international. If you take the territorial zones of Iran and Oman, they together exceed the width of the strait.
No worries, my friend. That's not a quibble. That's rather just a little uninformed pedantry, so I don't mind!
Please be informed: Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Strait of Hormuz is classified as an international strait, open to all peaceful navigation as if it were the high seas.
As signatories to the Convention, neither Iran (signed Dec 10, 1982, but has not ratified) nor Oman (signed Jul 1, 1983 and ratified Aug 17, 1989) has the authority under international law to suspend the Right of Passage through the strait. (The US is a "nonparty" to the convention, interestingly, but has said before Trump that it believes the convention -- except for what it says about seabed mining -- is already conceived in the historic body of international law.
This issue was the subject of the 'Tanker War' theater of the Iran-Iraq War, in which both nations declared 40-mile "exclusion zones" that sought to restrict the historically freely navigated Oman-Hormuz-Persian passage. A unanimous UN resolution, and intervention of the US Navy (at the cost of damage to the USS Stark), ended the struggle with the international nature of the entire waterbody reinforced in law and fact.
So, at its narrowest point, the SOH IS most assuredly international, until that is the Asshole in White House attacked and failed to heed advice that, as it had done in the 1980s Iran in a conflict would counter with closure of the waterway to gain leverage.
Let's not let how malicious the last year has been overshadow how incredibly fucking stupid it's also been.
Is that Epstein's corpse?