Shouty old man lost more open primaries and caucuses than Clinton did. He lost to her. Even if your unsourced claim of 10-12% magical GOP support is true, he fucking lost and didn't get the delegates. He got beat.
Show your work or don't bother replying shitbird. Show the 12% support from the GOPers in those primaries. Then show how that support still failed to get him the win.
Good points. Iowa is important to the establishment because it's the first primary of the nation where the establishment can control the process in a caucus - unlike the vote count. Some remember the 2016 primary where the results were clearly fixed by the DNC and DWS - by their own admission and actions. It was a rare political scandal where the court case was actually downplayed by the media!
A long while back I read that there was this other candidate who is setting records for fund-raising, campaign event attendance with the popularity of his policy positions. He is exciting the Latino vote, they youth vote and wins the non-white vote and has built a political machine AND the Progressive Caucus.
Maybe we could go with who gets the most support, not the person the media likes and promotes asking the question, "Who do you think will be the Democratic nominee?" It would be an actual poll if they asked, " who do you support as the Democratic nominee?"
Those who can't see the difference in the questions are the ones being deceived.
I measure a person by their policy issues - not labels. Try it. How many New Deal Democratic issues does it take to be a Democrat?
A living wage?Actual healthcare?Expanding public education?
I don't think most Democrats support neverending wars, trickle-down economics, socialization of losses and privatization of profits, etc....
Of course there are the Reagan 'Democrats' seeking a third-way into Republican policy.... which actually seems DINOish. "Don't worry, nothing will change" isn't inspirational to Democrats at all.
Evidence please? Attacking the left only helps the right.
Hillary provided little enthusiasm and when she vowed, "Single-payer will never, ever come to pass!" she didn't get any applause from Democrats.
I was wrong when I claimed that only right-wingers can't take responsibility for their actions. Seem some in the right-wing of the Democratic party suffer the same fate.
Please don't attack good policy because you want a conservative Democratic party. It's been over 40 years now and things are getting worse under Reagan Democrats/neoliberals.
They've topped 50%. How long before 3 men own MORE than 60% of the nation?
Maybe they just don't understand America? Universal healthcare is cheaper than our current system, but Americans are so freaking worried that they'd have to pay a nickel for someone else to have something nice. That's why I think it's a fools errand to run on M4A. It's so easy for Republicans to beat us if we run on that platform.
Republicans are smart enough to run on platforms that sound good. They never bother to deliver anything but tax cuts, but their followers are too dumb to notice. If they didn't have a clown that attracts the worst people in America, I seriously doubt they could have won in 2016.
Really? I know lots of people who are hoping "Don't worry. Nothing will fundamentally change!" It's about as popular as vowing "Single-payer will never, ever come to pass"
What a barn-burner of a campaign. How can a party lose to a TV game show host, TWICE?
Fuck off Ron.
Shouty old man lost more open primaries and caucuses than Clinton did. He lost to her. Even if your unsourced claim of 10-12% magical GOP support is true, he fucking lost and didn't get the delegates. He got beat.
Show your work or don't bother replying shitbird. Show the 12% support from the GOPers in those primaries. Then show how that support still failed to get him the win.
Good points. Iowa is important to the establishment because it's the first primary of the nation where the establishment can control the process in a caucus - unlike the vote count. Some remember the 2016 primary where the results were clearly fixed by the DNC and DWS - by their own admission and actions. It was a rare political scandal where the court case was actually downplayed by the media!
Few can find or even remember what was exposed.
A long while back I read that there was this other candidate who is setting records for fund-raising, campaign event attendance with the popularity of his policy positions. He is exciting the Latino vote, they youth vote and wins the non-white vote and has built a political machine AND the Progressive Caucus.
Maybe we could go with who gets the most support, not the person the media likes and promotes asking the question, "Who do you think will be the Democratic nominee?" It would be an actual poll if they asked, " who do you support as the Democratic nominee?"
Those who can't see the difference in the questions are the ones being deceived.
I measure a person by their policy issues - not labels. Try it. How many New Deal Democratic issues does it take to be a Democrat?
A living wage?Actual healthcare?Expanding public education?
I don't think most Democrats support neverending wars, trickle-down economics, socialization of losses and privatization of profits, etc....
Of course there are the Reagan 'Democrats' seeking a third-way into Republican policy.... which actually seems DINOish. "Don't worry, nothing will change" isn't inspirational to Democrats at all.
It loses the scare factor when Socialist Security is the most popular government program in history.
Evidence please? Attacking the left only helps the right.
Hillary provided little enthusiasm and when she vowed, "Single-payer will never, ever come to pass!" she didn't get any applause from Democrats.
I was wrong when I claimed that only right-wingers can't take responsibility for their actions. Seem some in the right-wing of the Democratic party suffer the same fate.
The policies will remain popular regardless.
Please don't attack good policy because you want a conservative Democratic party. It's been over 40 years now and things are getting worse under Reagan Democrats/neoliberals.
They've topped 50%. How long before 3 men own MORE than 60% of the nation?
Maybe they just don't understand America? Universal healthcare is cheaper than our current system, but Americans are so freaking worried that they'd have to pay a nickel for someone else to have something nice. That's why I think it's a fools errand to run on M4A. It's so easy for Republicans to beat us if we run on that platform.
Republicans are smart enough to run on platforms that sound good. They never bother to deliver anything but tax cuts, but their followers are too dumb to notice. If they didn't have a clown that attracts the worst people in America, I seriously doubt they could have won in 2016.
It's why they cheated in the 2016 primary. Riiiiiight.
Go away Ron. You're too fucking stupid to deal with today.
Really? I know lots of people who are hoping "Don't worry. Nothing will fundamentally change!" It's about as popular as vowing "Single-payer will never, ever come to pass"
What a barn-burner of a campaign. How can a party lose to a TV game show host, TWICE?
I'd rather we motivate Democrats with good policy and WIN the Senate and House.
We certainly won't win the Senate with leadership saying "Don't worry. Nothing with fundamentally change".
It's not a thing with Republicans. One side compromising without the other is just calling for more Republican policy.
How many Republican votes did Obama get adopting the REPUBLICAN alternative to single-payer?
Unfortunately, campaign event attendance does not win primaries. Getting people to show up at the polls does.
If he's the candidate, I'll vote for him but I won't put a "Biden - Not Anybody's Favorite" bumper sticker on my car.