So let me get this straight. Someone’s DAUGHTER was gang raped for HOURS and Cornell University thought it would TEACH THESE BOYS A LESSON if they wrote an ESSAY.
Listen! The Brock Turners of the world and THESE MEN have bright futures ahead of them people! Who knows? They may even end up being the President of the United States!
Cornell alums in particular, is anyone in the Cornell community pressuring the college NOT to allow these young men to graduate? Truly, this darkens the reputation of Cornell. They should all be expelled at a minimum. From so many perspectives this makes sense. Safety of existing students, protection from lawsuits. Would not their case be stronger right now if they Expelled all these students? They allow them to graduate and in so doing, will end up guilty of protecting them, and endangering the community.
Campus rape awareness, discussions, and "task forces" follow about a 10 year cycle. It will be in the news, talked about, and task-forced for maybe 9 months +/-, then everything goes quiet for a decade. This is the 4th cycle I've lived in.
When I was in my early 20's at Ohio State Uni in the early 90's (pre-transition), the "bad boys" were on the football teams there & at other colleges & universities. I was very active in the anti-rape (and women's and LGBT) movements then.
I'm a Cornell alum (graduate school 1992) and after reading about this I'm wondering why the sorority Delta, Delta, Delta isn't also being sued for failing to protect the victim against extreme intoxication. They had helped her preload before going to the bar downtown and then continued to allow her to drink. Then some of them accompanied her to Chi Phi. They all bear some responsibility I think.
That’s heinous. I was swearing through this whole post. 🤬 That poor girl! And that asshole university.
I have a young relative thinking about Cornel for grad school. I’m like, uhhhh, hon, maybe hell no. But are any of the big/little institutions any better? 😤 *goes off swearing*
I hope this young woman gets restitution and then some.
By the way, do any of you see the US Department of Education Facebook feed? Linda McMahon reports every day on how the DoE is finally standing up for the rights of female athletes, i.e., she's making sure that trans women are wiped off the face of the earth. I'm sort of guessing that there is no investigation into Cornell and its essay policy.
It does sound like the Cornell administrators are auditioning for jobs at Nike. University cops should, by law, be required to report all potential felonies to the actual police, no exceptions. And sexual assault should be called out by name, using all synonyms to get the point across. The existence of university police is fine to confine small matters within the university community, but this is not a small matter. Now, I don't know how good the Ithaca police are, but they can't be worse than these clowns.
If the plaintiff successfully wins her civil suit, the first words those seven assholes will hear at every job interview will be, "I ran across this article on Wonkette.com..."
I'm convinced that one of the reasons gang rapes occur on college campuses is that, in the U.S. at least, many parents don't make it a point to have serious talks with their sons about what is and is not acceptable in their treatment of women (and of people who are perceived by others as "different"). As a grandmother, I've told my grandson (who is now 9 and a half) that he should never intentionally cause physical harm to another person, male or female, unless he is acting in self-defense, and that he should never strike back at a girl, even if she tries to hurt him, because in most cases boys are physically stronger than girls.
It was seven or eight of them. They all participated as if this was normal. She is not the only girl. There have to be other cases. And where are these men's families? Hiring them lawyers to protect their future so they become professionals who are blurred on what consent is. That's how you get ice.
If the whole campus knew in real time this was happening but the college security and administration. Including legal because you know they have legal. If they all knew and the punishment was writing an essay. They consider this a minor offense.
The mentality that can prioritize covering up for an
amoral organization over defending a victimized young woman is beyond my comprehension. Where do such persons come from, how do they live with themselves?
Exactly. And again, the victim is a woman who trusted a man.
The seven men named as defendants are:
Matthew Ingalls
Johnathan/Jonathan Newell — published sources vary on the spelling
Winston Lee
Gillio Lopes
Diego Sarabia
Scott Norris
Scott Kretzschmar
So, keep you feeds set for those essays. We can see what accountability looks like at Cornell, seven "he said, she said" essays. This woman at 20 has courage. She is going after all seven in Civil Court. Those essays help her case. She is also going after Cornell. That is courage in real time.
What about the other recipients of the text? Who receives that text? They are complicit in the crime by not trying to stop it.
I think ... what staggers me is when things like this come out men are still staggered -- and angry!! -- that women would choose the bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWemmA2rFVI
“ The Cornell Office of Civil Rights”
Oh fuck all the way off. Tell your lawyers you’re not going to hide behind some rule and actually speak as a human behind the office.
So let me get this straight. Someone’s DAUGHTER was gang raped for HOURS and Cornell University thought it would TEACH THESE BOYS A LESSON if they wrote an ESSAY.
Listen! The Brock Turners of the world and THESE MEN have bright futures ahead of them people! Who knows? They may even end up being the President of the United States!
... or SCOTUS justices
We need to be real about the fact that the institutions of the "United States" are designed to protect (rich White) men
https://www.wonkette.com/p/is-writing-an-essay-an-appropriate/comment/347567870
Cornell alums in particular, is anyone in the Cornell community pressuring the college NOT to allow these young men to graduate? Truly, this darkens the reputation of Cornell. They should all be expelled at a minimum. From so many perspectives this makes sense. Safety of existing students, protection from lawsuits. Would not their case be stronger right now if they Expelled all these students? They allow them to graduate and in so doing, will end up guilty of protecting them, and endangering the community.
Campus rape awareness, discussions, and "task forces" follow about a 10 year cycle. It will be in the news, talked about, and task-forced for maybe 9 months +/-, then everything goes quiet for a decade. This is the 4th cycle I've lived in.
When I was in my early 20's at Ohio State Uni in the early 90's (pre-transition), the "bad boys" were on the football teams there & at other colleges & universities. I was very active in the anti-rape (and women's and LGBT) movements then.
Nothing has changed.
Future Supreme Court justices......
I'm a Cornell alum (graduate school 1992) and after reading about this I'm wondering why the sorority Delta, Delta, Delta isn't also being sued for failing to protect the victim against extreme intoxication. They had helped her preload before going to the bar downtown and then continued to allow her to drink. Then some of them accompanied her to Chi Phi. They all bear some responsibility I think.
That’s heinous. I was swearing through this whole post. 🤬 That poor girl! And that asshole university.
I have a young relative thinking about Cornel for grad school. I’m like, uhhhh, hon, maybe hell no. But are any of the big/little institutions any better? 😤 *goes off swearing*
I hope this young woman gets restitution and then some.
By the way, do any of you see the US Department of Education Facebook feed? Linda McMahon reports every day on how the DoE is finally standing up for the rights of female athletes, i.e., she's making sure that trans women are wiped off the face of the earth. I'm sort of guessing that there is no investigation into Cornell and its essay policy.
It does sound like the Cornell administrators are auditioning for jobs at Nike. University cops should, by law, be required to report all potential felonies to the actual police, no exceptions. And sexual assault should be called out by name, using all synonyms to get the point across. The existence of university police is fine to confine small matters within the university community, but this is not a small matter. Now, I don't know how good the Ithaca police are, but they can't be worse than these clowns.
If the plaintiff successfully wins her civil suit, the first words those seven assholes will hear at every job interview will be, "I ran across this article on Wonkette.com..."
Far above Cayuga’s waters
Comes an awful smell
Some say it’s Cayuga’a waters
Some say it’s Cornell
Where is the vomit emoji please..
Also. If 'the charge was never for us to solve the problem' then what in the actual ever-living FUCK *was* the charge for?!?
I'm convinced that one of the reasons gang rapes occur on college campuses is that, in the U.S. at least, many parents don't make it a point to have serious talks with their sons about what is and is not acceptable in their treatment of women (and of people who are perceived by others as "different"). As a grandmother, I've told my grandson (who is now 9 and a half) that he should never intentionally cause physical harm to another person, male or female, unless he is acting in self-defense, and that he should never strike back at a girl, even if she tries to hurt him, because in most cases boys are physically stronger than girls.
How badly does a parent have to fail for sons to learn this is acceptable?
It was seven or eight of them. They all participated as if this was normal. She is not the only girl. There have to be other cases. And where are these men's families? Hiring them lawyers to protect their future so they become professionals who are blurred on what consent is. That's how you get ice.
If the whole campus knew in real time this was happening but the college security and administration. Including legal because you know they have legal. If they all knew and the punishment was writing an essay. They consider this a minor offense.
“ They did not involve the real police,”
Of course not. The job of campus police is bury incidents like these, not report them to the real police.
The mentality that can prioritize covering up for an
amoral organization over defending a victimized young woman is beyond my comprehension. Where do such persons come from, how do they live with themselves?
Exactly. And again, the victim is a woman who trusted a man.
The seven men named as defendants are:
Matthew Ingalls
Johnathan/Jonathan Newell — published sources vary on the spelling
Winston Lee
Gillio Lopes
Diego Sarabia
Scott Norris
Scott Kretzschmar
So, keep you feeds set for those essays. We can see what accountability looks like at Cornell, seven "he said, she said" essays. This woman at 20 has courage. She is going after all seven in Civil Court. Those essays help her case. She is also going after Cornell. That is courage in real time.
We went way past "he said/she said". "She said and he said the same thing in the group chat."
It’s like calling HR.