Interesting take on his upbringing, guess this is the polite version. Not at all similar to what classmates have been posting the last few months. High school seemed far from that ideal. Cool thing about small towns is how it is always half a degree of separation. Everyone knows everyone. I wonder what his brother does for work. Betting at 5'4, with that obviously DL on the dating thing going on, that cops/DAs/PDs etc remember him from pre border days. I am guessing that was probably similar to his high school experience.
I wonder what the odds are that Bovino is a closeted gay man? That would be better than the likelier alternative: A man who wants to abuse women and children for kicks whom no romantic partner could stomach.
"...Leaving only a couple of Marshall’s to guard the house, most of Brock’s troops had departed after terrorizing the neighborhood for weeks, running up and down the dirt lanes in formation chanting “War on Drugs! War on Drugs!” strip searching folks in public, killing dogs, rabbits, cats, and chicken, pouring herbicide down wells that couldn’t remotely be used to irrigate dope crops, and acting, indeed, as several neighbors observed, as if they had invaded some helpless land far away, instead of a short plane ride from San Francisco."
Thomas Pynchon describing Brock Vond, the antagonist of Vineland. Colonel Lockjaw is Anderson's version of Vond in One Battle After Another.
"Pam Bondi’s DOJ may not go after ICE agents who break the law, but local prosecutors and judges sure could"
That's exactly why they are sending in goons who violate the law so obviously in the course of their "law enforcement", and doing all of this in states and cities where their activity is most likely to be seen as the law-breaking it is rather than law enforcement they pretend it to be They want an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act against blue state and local govt.
10 USC 252, where the key part of the old Insurrection Act lives today, reads "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."
Their aim is to bait local and state govt into joining what they will paint as an unlawful combination that makes it impracticable for ICE to enforce federal immigration law. Of course, local and state govt actually arresting and prosecuting ICE agents for the performance of their duties, exactly fits their bill.
I'm not arguing that state govt should never enforce the law against lawless ICE agents. as suggested here. It may come to that. I'm just pointing out the full implications of such enforcement, which would be to trigger what the other side will certainly attempt to blow up into a second civil war. They've never gotten over losing the first one, in which our side's opening move was to invoke the Insurrection Act against the govts of the seceding states. That's their motivation. Their calculation that they would win this repeat civil war rests on the fact that their man is currently the Commander in Chief, and that a lot of the people in law enforcement and the military share their political views, and this tempts them to give it a try in 2026, with the roles the reverse of 1861.
Our side needs to base its response to them on calculation as well. Justice must be served, but opposing the illegal use of force by their side with the legal use of force will only succeed at serving justice insofar as our side can win the resulting armed conflict. Statements such as the one I cite here can only become a guide to action insofar as our side is prepared for the armed conflict that the action will trigger.
Now wait just a darn minute -- something doesn't add up!
Given that he arrived in 1909, and his wife and kids came in 1927 (or later, depending on the source):
... And one of the kids was 12-year-old Vincenzo Bovino, Gregory’s future grandfather, who was automatically granted so-called “derivative citizenship” for minors. That is called chain migration!
By my math, Bovino's grandpa was a bastard (much like his current offspring, but in the moral sense, in his case) ... because there's no record that the great-grandpa ever returned to Italy, so when his 12-year-old "child" arrived 20 years after he left ... well, you do the math ...
These villain origin stories are always so disappointingly banal. No falling into a vat of chemicals or having half their face splashed with acid. Just shitty people who had shitty parents. Can’t we at least have one where toxic fumes caused all of their hair to fall out?
Maybe…just spitballin’ here… Mr Bovino has met the great nephew of Clyde Tolson, or Cardinal Spellman, and this fine gentleman is his number two at ICE, and they go to the racetrack together, and place $2 bets together, and watch old Rock-and-Doris movies together, and take vacations together, and have never heard that it is OK to get married now, we on the Left aren’t going to judge, and that maybe if Mr Bovino is out, all his repressed anger at his dad can be worked through in therapy, and he can be a nice ICE, like Jack was in the Border, or in Anger Management.
Can someone please tell him Justice Kennedy said it’s OK now?
Interesting take on his upbringing, guess this is the polite version. Not at all similar to what classmates have been posting the last few months. High school seemed far from that ideal. Cool thing about small towns is how it is always half a degree of separation. Everyone knows everyone. I wonder what his brother does for work. Betting at 5'4, with that obviously DL on the dating thing going on, that cops/DAs/PDs etc remember him from pre border days. I am guessing that was probably similar to his high school experience.
I wonder what the odds are that Bovino is a closeted gay man? That would be better than the likelier alternative: A man who wants to abuse women and children for kicks whom no romantic partner could stomach.
How about "Operation Homicide: Life on the Street"? That was set in Baltimore.
"...Leaving only a couple of Marshall’s to guard the house, most of Brock’s troops had departed after terrorizing the neighborhood for weeks, running up and down the dirt lanes in formation chanting “War on Drugs! War on Drugs!” strip searching folks in public, killing dogs, rabbits, cats, and chicken, pouring herbicide down wells that couldn’t remotely be used to irrigate dope crops, and acting, indeed, as several neighbors observed, as if they had invaded some helpless land far away, instead of a short plane ride from San Francisco."
Thomas Pynchon describing Brock Vond, the antagonist of Vineland. Colonel Lockjaw is Anderson's version of Vond in One Battle After Another.
Holy shit.
"Pam Bondi’s DOJ may not go after ICE agents who break the law, but local prosecutors and judges sure could"
That's exactly why they are sending in goons who violate the law so obviously in the course of their "law enforcement", and doing all of this in states and cities where their activity is most likely to be seen as the law-breaking it is rather than law enforcement they pretend it to be They want an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act against blue state and local govt.
10 USC 252, where the key part of the old Insurrection Act lives today, reads "Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."
Their aim is to bait local and state govt into joining what they will paint as an unlawful combination that makes it impracticable for ICE to enforce federal immigration law. Of course, local and state govt actually arresting and prosecuting ICE agents for the performance of their duties, exactly fits their bill.
I'm not arguing that state govt should never enforce the law against lawless ICE agents. as suggested here. It may come to that. I'm just pointing out the full implications of such enforcement, which would be to trigger what the other side will certainly attempt to blow up into a second civil war. They've never gotten over losing the first one, in which our side's opening move was to invoke the Insurrection Act against the govts of the seceding states. That's their motivation. Their calculation that they would win this repeat civil war rests on the fact that their man is currently the Commander in Chief, and that a lot of the people in law enforcement and the military share their political views, and this tempts them to give it a try in 2026, with the roles the reverse of 1861.
Our side needs to base its response to them on calculation as well. Justice must be served, but opposing the illegal use of force by their side with the legal use of force will only succeed at serving justice insofar as our side can win the resulting armed conflict. Statements such as the one I cite here can only become a guide to action insofar as our side is prepared for the armed conflict that the action will trigger.
"Blowing Rock" would be a good porno name; just sayin'.
Yikes. Like Trump, Bovino has some mental issues. He has grown into a fine sociopath.
It’ll be Operation The Wire, who are we kidding?
Though personally I’d vote for Operation Pink Flamingos.
I’d paraphrase John Waters and say Operation Don’t Fuck ‘Em but that goes without saying for MAGA types…
Operation Raven Racists
"active father figures to be in?”
He seems nice
I can't be the first one to read Yemenite like Yosemite!
"A purse-sized dog he can talk to and pretend is a person?"
Hey, I have a slightly bigger "purse sized dog" and she says she takes offense at this ...
purse sized dog Libelz!
Now wait just a darn minute -- something doesn't add up!
Given that he arrived in 1909, and his wife and kids came in 1927 (or later, depending on the source):
... And one of the kids was 12-year-old Vincenzo Bovino, Gregory’s future grandfather, who was automatically granted so-called “derivative citizenship” for minors. That is called chain migration!
By my math, Bovino's grandpa was a bastard (much like his current offspring, but in the moral sense, in his case) ... because there's no record that the great-grandpa ever returned to Italy, so when his 12-year-old "child" arrived 20 years after he left ... well, you do the math ...
This was a Catholic culture. This sort of thing was very easy to explain.
It wasn't. It just was. That was that.
There's a lot of compartmentalization in Catholicism.
These villain origin stories are always so disappointingly banal. No falling into a vat of chemicals or having half their face splashed with acid. Just shitty people who had shitty parents. Can’t we at least have one where toxic fumes caused all of their hair to fall out?
At least Hitler had the failed artist thing.
Maybe…just spitballin’ here… Mr Bovino has met the great nephew of Clyde Tolson, or Cardinal Spellman, and this fine gentleman is his number two at ICE, and they go to the racetrack together, and place $2 bets together, and watch old Rock-and-Doris movies together, and take vacations together, and have never heard that it is OK to get married now, we on the Left aren’t going to judge, and that maybe if Mr Bovino is out, all his repressed anger at his dad can be worked through in therapy, and he can be a nice ICE, like Jack was in the Border, or in Anger Management.
Can someone please tell him Justice Kennedy said it’s OK now?
I was going to comment that Greg and Ric Grennel seem made for each other
Oh
Um
Di you *really* want to put those two together
Which anniversary is leather?
with those two? AOTK